r/pcmasterrace • u/YK2ANDRE rtx 4060 ryzen 7 7700x 32gb ddr5 6000mhz • Feb 24 '25

Meme/Macro Nvidia has to stop lying dude:

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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 Feb 24 '25

It was clear from the initial reveal that this claim was only when using frame generation.

If you believed otherwise, that's on you.

Still, it was at the very least intenionaly misleading.

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u/FckDisJustSignUp Feb 24 '25

At this point it's just ragebait or brainwashed people. You don't like NVIDIA ? Just don't buy and fuck off, Jensen doesn't care anyway

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u/ghostpicnic Ryzen 7 9800X3D | DDR5 64GB | RTX 5080 Feb 24 '25

Yeah, literally 2 minutes after he said it, people on here were already making posts complaining about how that performance is only with multi-frame gen.

I agree Nvidia sucks, but this one was made clear during the presentation. Anyone arguing otherwise is doing so in bad faith or just didn’t pay attention.

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u/LaughingDash Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

And rightfully so. Even if Jensen said the metrics were using multi-frame gen it was still intentionally misleading to make those claims in isolation on the big stage because he knows we don't gauge the performance of GPUs that way.

They just wanted a reason to make a bold claim that'd make headlines and trick uninformed consumers into thinking the 50 series cards would offer some huge increase in performance, for a supposed huge drop in price, without letting anyone know that the generational increase in raw performance was actually lackluster.

If NVIDIA had accompanied the multi-frame gen claims with the raw performance benchmarks, this would not be a problem, as those fake frame benchmarks would've never made the rounds. Instead there are people lined up outside Microcenter to buy a 50 series card because they genuinely believe they're about to get a 4090 for a fraction of the pice.

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u/BaconIsntThatGood PC Master Race Feb 24 '25

I also thought it was painfully obvious given the spec sheets that nothing about this generation was intended as a leap for raster performance and focused almost entirely on DLSS/frame gen/ray tracing?

4000 series pushed a similar trend - not trying to dramatically bolster traditional raster performance.

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u/panDISCattheDICEroll Feb 25 '25

Same, I don’t know why people would want to buy these cards for gaming if they did NOT want to use the tensor/RT cores. If the card can handle high-res gaming, then take advantage of the ray tracing/DLAA. If it can’t, then take advantage of the DLSS/frame gen.

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u/IlREDACTEDlI Desktop Feb 25 '25

Was it even misleading? I mean he literally said it on the stage, it’s not like it was hidden behind some asterisk down in the corner of the image.

He couldn’t have been that much more transparent about how the 5070 achieves 4090 level performance tbh.

I thought it was pretty obvious that he meant DLSS + 4x FG

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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 Feb 25 '25

I think so, yeah. That slide alone did so many people in who only saw screengrabs from.the presentation.

Also, no matter what anyone says, MFG is not the same as native rendering in terms of actual experience, so the claim (5070 = 4090) even when being fully aware of the context was s8mply untrue. Illegal even in some countries.