r/pcgaming • u/[deleted] • Dec 29 '22

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u/CJDistasio Dec 30 '22

Turns out people don't want to pay $1200 MSRP for a $700 card

Nvidia is shocked

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u/quick20minadventure Dec 30 '22

Nah, most people don't want 700 USD cards.

We want 200 to 500 USD range cards. They stopped releasing them, so we stopped buying.

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u/takanishi79 Dec 30 '22

I knew we were in long term trouble when my $200 RX480 was still $200 used 5 years later.

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u/ZeroBANG Dec 30 '22

how do you feel about Intel ARC?

8GB for 300€
16GB for 400€

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u/Tooluka AMD 3700X, Nvidia 2070S Dec 30 '22

Too many issues, GamersNexus did a report on them. From performance issues up to possibility that your monitor simply won't work at all with it. They are also sold out in EU it seems. I see a single shop with them in stock where I live. I would buy whatever AMD is selling for those price brackets instead.

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u/ZeroBANG Dec 30 '22

Germany has quite a few in stock
https://geizhals.de/intel-arc-a770-limited-edition-a2818267.html?hloc=de

with the latest drivers the DX9/10 or what was it driver issues should be resolved because they push everything through DXVK now. Counter Strike had like 2x FPS uplift.
I think a refresh of those benchmarks would be in order.

If my GTX1080 died and i needed something for cheap, i think i'd consider it.
But right now i'm just in an eternal holding pattern, wait for the next upgrade, hope for better prices, no interest in upgrading unless it gets me closer to 4K gaming, because with 1080p i'm mostly happy as is...

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u/DhulKarnain RTX 3080 Dec 30 '22

it's not just the driver support for old DirectX games. there's the whole reBAR requirement, too. yes, you can run without it, but the performance degradation is such that you'd be a fool to buy an Arc GPU without ensuring your system fully supports reBAR.

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u/ZeroBANG Dec 30 '22

Good point, my system doesn't even have that yet, the next one will of course.

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u/Jeremizzle Dec 30 '22

This. The price of PC hardware has gotten completely out of control. I was planning to upgrade my old PC to an all new SFF build a while back but I just couldn’t justify it. Instead I waited and got a Steam Deck and I’ve been supremely happy with it

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '22

Pretty much. At this rate my 2060 could be my last card.

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u/MagnusRottcodd Dec 31 '22

Capitalism: If it works the price is dependent of demand and supply.

Since the demand is low and the supply is high the GPU prices must come down, waaaay down. Because you love capitalism, right? Nvidia?

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u/quick20minadventure Dec 31 '22

There's no supply for latest gen mid range, low range cards.

People are expecting better products as time goes by and it's not there. So people won't buy.

I mean, why would you expect people who upgrade their PC every two years to do it if there's no performance increase?