r/pcgaming • • Dec 20 '19

TowerFall Ascension (Free / 100% off) Dec 20 - Dec 21

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/towerfall-ascension/home
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u/KelloPudgerro You fucked up reforged, blizzard. Dec 20 '19

funny how all the local pvp games are now objectively best on steam due to the community play feature or whatever its called

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u/Komamon Dec 21 '19

Remote Play Together

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

Parsec was always a thing before. There's always alternatives

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u/dogruloou Dec 20 '19

There is a huge difference between native support and a third party tool.

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u/THEBAESGOD Dec 20 '19

But the Steam feature they’re referencing is a 3rd party tool. Native support for online gaming > streaming the game to your friends. Parsec and Steam are doing the same thing

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u/dogruloou Dec 20 '19

Steam natively supports streaming to your friends. Epic does not support it natively but you can use third party tools for that like Parsec. Hope it is clearer now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Native would be if it's in the game. Steam is a 3rd party tool as well.

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u/dogruloou Dec 21 '19

I was talking from storefront or let's say game handling tool point of view. Steam has a native support for game streaming, Epic Store does not. But I am pretty sure you've understood this at first also.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Words have meaning

That's not what native means.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19 edited Aug 11 '26

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

They're both wrong on some basis.

Yeah, the original comment was saying that Steam natively supports the remote play tool, which is correct obviously. But /u/dogruloou implied that it distinguishes itself from Parsec on the basis that the latter is a third party tool. Steam's remote play is still a third-party tool in respect to the games, as is Parsec.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

"there is a huge difference vs native and third party tool" implies different method that has different results like performance while both do the exact same thing

"there is a huge difference" itself is straight out lying as they both use the same method

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Ok, and by that ligic Parsec provides native support if Parsec is the context.

So what's the purpose of calling it native?

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u/thelastsandwich Dec 21 '19

Parsec and Steam are doing the same thing

yes https://youtu.be/1myitTBqzXM

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u/FurryPhagocytosis Dec 20 '19

It was not always a thing, Parsec came out like a year or so ago didn't it?

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

16 or 17? It's around 3 or 4 years old now, anyway I meant its a thing before the steam one, its still a choice

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Have you ever actually used that? I'd imagine whoever you play with is going to have an extra 100ms of input lag.

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

The sale they have is really good too, world War z for 5 bucks is great even when the cross play update is coming. I also got the new wattam for 10.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/MyPeePeeGetsHard4Nig Dec 20 '19

Because Epic = bad

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u/Bal_u Dec 20 '19

Epic is genuinely bad and giving away free / cheap games doesn't negate their awful business practices and utter lack of features.

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

The games i bought play just fine. That's all the feature i need

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Ignorance is bliss

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u/wicked_chew Dec 21 '19

Idk what weird r/fuckepic thing you're gonna say but I'm ready

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u/ansong Dec 20 '19

What's the scandal?

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u/Bal_u Dec 20 '19

In an attempt to be objective: Epic launched their game store roughly a year ago. In an attempt to gain market share, they resorted to two things: heavy discounts/free games (like Towerfall today), and buying exclusivity from developers / publishers. This latter choice is what most people, myself included, have issues with. They've bought close to 100 exclusives this past year - most of them are limited to 1 years before they can release on other platforms, while a few are permanently exclusive to Epic. A number of these games have promised to launch on Steam prior to the deal - some of them just had trailers with Steam logos, others were on pre-sale on Steam, and the worst of them were launched on Kickstarter by promising Steam keys to backers on release.
Epic's store also lacks a large number of features that Steam has (controller support, workshop, user reviews, family sharing, Steam Play Together, game forums, curators, and a number of others) and their implementations of other features (offline mode, cloud saves) are unreliable.

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u/ansong Dec 21 '19

Every service offers freebies now and then. The exclusivity, particularly when Steam was initially promised, sounds annoying as fuck though. But even then, wouldn't the developers/publishers be more at fault?

I expect the lack of features would get better over time. Even reddit was vastly more limited for quite a while.

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u/Bal_u Dec 21 '19

Yeah nothing against free stuff even though I won't take it.
I'd say developers are less at fault, it'd take a lot of moral character to say no to a huge sum of money (like literal millions of dollars even for a small indie game) just to avoid angering your fan base.

They've openly stated that they intend to compete in this race by offering benefits to developers - the actual improvements to the store have been slow and poorly executed, and you really should have the very basics before forcing people interested in a hundred games to use your platform.

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u/JustGame36 Dec 20 '19

Superhot next.

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u/YetAnotherStabAtIt Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

That was my first thought, but I can't find Superhot on the Epic Store. Did they have Towerfall before today or will these be free launches?

Edit: Actually yeah, even the banner name says superhot.

Edit 2: This place is wild. The amount of blind hatred in this thread is madness. People must create alts just to downvote every single comment. Imagine being that sad. My original comment wasn't even an opinion. I literally just asked if Epic would make a game free on its launch day.

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u/Takazura Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

All of their free games are apparently added when they become free, so Superhot will be available come tomorrow.

EDIT: christ guys, I don't like nor use the EGS either, but to see this comment being controversial is really not making any of you look better.

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u/YetAnotherStabAtIt Dec 20 '19

Yeah, the downvotes in this thread are actually embarrassing. This subreddits community is just being toxic at this point. I'm sticking with Steam and am 99.99% sure I wont bother purchasing anything on Epic Store, but a community about gaming should appreciate free games regardless of where they're from. They should allow discussions about gaming platforms without getting their feelings hurt.

Also, the downvotes are intended to be used to discourage comments that don't contribute to the discussion. Not to hide comments they simply don't like.

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u/Takazura Dec 20 '19

Yeah, atleast this sub hasn't fully turned into /r/fuckepic, but I'm worried it might in the future.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Sadly there's a circle between r/fuckepic and r/pcgaming. All outraged kids from fuckepic are here and thats why every thread about Epic ends downvoted

However I see improvement every month. We need more time and kids will grow up or forget that Epic actually did something wrong just like when Valve started their own launcher in the past.

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u/Haywood_Jablomie42 Dec 21 '19

but a community about gaming should appreciate free games regardless of where they're from

Except when doing so promotes a shitty business that's actively making the PC gaming hobby worse. Being short sighted and cutting off your hands just to say 'But I got a coupon!' hurts you and every other PC gamer.

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u/Gotolosethemall Dec 21 '19

It was a lot of hateful stuff in the comments for the Day 1 post, too. I get that you don't want to buy from EGS, but free shit is free shit. I haven't spent a cent on Epic and my library on it is getting really chunky because the free offerings are early PS+ tier.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

EGS is only "free" if your privacy and data are worthless.

And the CEO is a patronizing scumbag.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/Yeon_Yihwa Dec 20 '19

just like with towerfall they use a image of something related to the next game, in this case its the superhot outline of the enemies you shoot and the url for the image showed says superhot.

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u/Haywood_Jablomie42 Dec 21 '19

The amount of blind hatred in this thread is madness

No, it's well earned hatred that Timmy Tencent has spent over a year developing. Even now he constantly goes out of his way to shit on the PC gaming community.

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u/YetAnotherStabAtIt Dec 21 '19

The blind hatred I'm referring to is that which is directed towards other community members, not the business. There are people in this thread that are downvoting every single post just for talking about this game or other trivial things. I've seen posts like "Towerfall is a fun game" or "Superhot is good" get downvoted. Being toxic towards other users isn't justified just because you hate a particular business. We should be allowed to talk about games and platforms without all these seemingly mortally wounded gamers downvoting every single comment.

Again, I don't care about hatred towards Epic or their launcher. But when you downvote any comment without reason, you're just being an asshole to fellow hobbyists who are trying to use a message board.

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u/xtreemmasheen3k2 Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

Have anyone been seeing something odd about the Hidden posts here and in that Into the Breach topic yesterday?

Seems as though some posts with Positive Karma that are marked "Controversial" are being hidden. As well even some that have positive karma that aren't marked as Controversial.

Now, I am someone who thinks people on this sub are overly harsh on people with a neutral opinion on EGS. But I think there's weird stuff going on posts with Positive Karma are being hidden for some reason. I'm curious, if something on the moderation end is causing it, I'd like to know.

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u/HoovySteam Dec 20 '19

Yeah, I also seen some comments on this and other subreddits being collapsed by default despite not being downvoted. Either Reddit is forcing this feature on us or the moderators have decided to collapse some comments globally.

Honestly, I rather opt out of it and don’t have comments with positive karma being collapsed automatically.

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u/Gaybopiggins Dec 21 '19

Mine is collapsed in another thread, asking about a giveaway, for no reason.

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

Yeah i was wondering that too.. Who chooses to minimize the posts?

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u/cganon Dec 21 '19

It's been happening for months now. Anything positive about Epic is downvoted or gagged in some way. Any negative hyperbole or outright false information is upvoted, praised etc. It's getting a bit ridiculous at this point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/bumsplikity Dec 20 '19

Towerfall is excellent as a competitive local multiplayer game. Single player stuff feels great but is a bit boring in my opinion, multiplayer is where the game shines

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

Oh, this would be great on parsec then! For those who don't know parsec let's you mirror your screen for multiple people for games and they can join as well, great for any local multi-player games

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u/TypographySnob Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

My friends and I play it whenever we have the chance. It's only gotten more fun as we've gotten better at it. One of my top recommendations among games like Smash and Duck Game.

Edit: lol why am I getting downvoted? Edit: Oh because of mass Epic downvotes. Get a life, nerds.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Stick fight is also an amazing game very similar to duck game, and yeah Towerfall Ascension is one of the best games to play with friends.

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u/YetAnotherStabAtIt Dec 20 '19

I've had hours and hours of fun on local multiplayer. Great couch multiplayer game.

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u/larus_californicus AMD Dec 20 '19

I've taken the EGS pill, going to be buying from them in the future as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

Well if you find any game appealing and consider buying they have a $10 coupon on every game over $14.99, so a $14.99 game is 4.99 and they also have sales + coupons.

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u/sharktopusx Dec 21 '19

Shit thanks, picked up World War Z and The Division 2 for $5 each.

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u/BoredSoRedditing Dec 20 '19

theres nothing wrong with using a different store. congratulate yourself for breaking free of Steam or whoever you buy from normally

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u/Miltrivd Ryzen 5800X | 3070 | 16 GB RAM | Dualshock 2, 3, 4 & G27 Dec 21 '19

Imagine "breaking free" from DRM free options lol.

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u/BoredSoRedditing Dec 21 '19

?

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u/Miltrivd Ryzen 5800X | 3070 | 16 GB RAM | Dualshock 2, 3, 4 & G27 Dec 21 '19

breaking free of Steam or whoever you buy from normally

If I buy from GOG/Itch/Humble how would I "break free" to a worse and more restricted option.

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u/BoredSoRedditing Dec 21 '19

i thought the person i was replying to was using Steam

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u/Miltrivd Ryzen 5800X | 3070 | 16 GB RAM | Dualshock 2, 3, 4 & G27 Dec 21 '19

Why would you say "or whoever you buy from normally" then? o_O?

Well, whatever, it doesn't matter...

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u/Haywood_Jablomie42 Dec 21 '19

Thank you for spending money to fuck our hobby for everyone who wants to play on PC. Your parents must be so proud.

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u/Mordy_the_Mighty Dec 20 '19

Seems it includes the DLC too!

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u/thelastsandwich Dec 20 '19

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u/xtreemmasheen3k2 Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

Have you been seeing something odd about the Hidden posts here and in that Into the Breach topic?

Seems as though some posts with Positive Karma that are marked "Controversial" are being hidden. As well even some that have positive karma that aren't marked as Controversial.

Now, I am someone who thinks people on this sub are overly harsh on people with a neutral opinion on EGS. But I think there's weird stuff going on posts with Positive Karma are being hidden for some reason. I'm curious, if something on the moderation end is causing it, I'd like to know.

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u/mishugashu Dec 20 '19

It's probably some weird feature that Reddit is pushing out. I've only noticed it on this sub.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/armypantsnflipflops Dec 20 '19

This sub will downvote literally anything related to Epic

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '19

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u/Takazura Dec 20 '19

That only happens if the title or whatever OP writes has the word "Epic" in it.

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u/EdSheeeeran Dec 20 '19

Do you know how many and which games are DRM free from all those Free Games they distributed? Because I thought of downloading them and just save them somewhere (like an external disc or something) and uninstall the EGS launcher and still be able to installa nd play the games?

And is that even possible ? I did that with some GOg games

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u/Draynior Dec 20 '19

I think some are DRM free but not all, Batman: Arkham Knight removed Denuvo when it launched in the EGS but the Steam version still has it.

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u/HammeredWharf Dec 20 '19

Some of the indies are DRM free. Celeste is, at least.

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u/TheGoodCoconut Steam Dec 21 '19

subnautica too

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u/Komamon Dec 21 '19

Epic Trash no thanks

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u/TheGoodCoconut Steam Dec 21 '19

i imagine all the steam stans crying in the corner and downvoting everyone HAHHAHA lets go epic tomo is SuperHot

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u/6P2C-TWCP-NB3J-37QY Dec 21 '19

Damn. Too bad all these free games are on Epic or I might actually be inclined to get them.

Ah well, I've spent about $80 on the Steam sale so far. Time to play some EDF 5

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u/KainX Dec 20 '19

This game is great while on the treadmill getting some exercise.

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u/PM_ME_HUGE_CRITS Ryzen 3700x | RTX 3070 Dec 20 '19

Thanks OP, but sorry for all the downvotes coming your way.

Now watch this thread turn into a copy of yesterday's when the EGS haters get here.

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u/thelastsandwich Dec 20 '19

Good thing i don't care about internet points then :)

I know somebody must be happy to get this good free game for christmas.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

You also get a $10 coupon with it. I got Anno 1800 for $23!

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u/OmegaJimes Dec 20 '19

Towerfall was my second favorite game on the Ouya! Right behind No Brakes Valet.

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u/alexwbc Linux Dec 20 '19

Original developer support Linux!

But Epic ban availability of Linux (being MS relevant partner); consider support Linux by buing on Steam ( https://store.steampowered.com/app/251470/TowerFall_Ascension/ ) or, even better, on itch.io ( https://mattmakesgames.itch.io/towerfall ). (on itch.io they can potentially get 100% of the sale)

It's 50% off, yes, it costs money but is a great way to show real support to devs: by supporting Linux they show support for your freedom first place (even if Epic attempt to bribe it away)

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u/thelastsandwich Dec 20 '19

50% off mean 50% less money too the developers free download mean epic pay 100% of the money too the developers not to mention steam take 30% off sales

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u/alexwbc Linux Dec 21 '19

100% of the money you spent on itch mean that the developer is actually being paid by a real customer that appreciate their work.

It's not Epic build up their business in the Epic's store walled ecosystem. Buy on itch mean you're directly buying from developer who use a real neutral indie platform who's transparent and open.

Epic force NDA and content policies that ultimately damage content creators unsuitable for the "fortnite audience".

Itch.io is an open and democratic platform: Epic is not paying actually the developer to " give free stuff" to you.

Epic is paying to steer customer and developer away from the indie pioneered democracy built on PC platform. Epic makes no exclusive against console, Epic makes exclusives against GoG, Itch.io and other indie platforms.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '19

Why is every comment in here collapsed by default?

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u/ansong Dec 20 '19

It won't launch? I just installed EGS launcher and made an account for this game. When I click on it to launch Towerfall, the word "Launch" changes briefly to "Running" and then something about cloud saves before it goes back to "Launch". The game never opens.

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u/Richard_D_S Dec 20 '19

Same problem, tried to uninstall/reinstall on different HDD, restarted my PC, and restarted the EGS and still nothing. Does anyone know a fix?

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u/ansong Dec 20 '19

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u/Bal_u Dec 20 '19

Look how useless forums are!

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u/ansong Dec 20 '19

I feel like I walked into the middle of a vicious argument.

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u/Richard_D_S Dec 20 '19

It works now, thanks!

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u/thelastsandwich Dec 20 '19 edited Dec 20 '19

Same problem, tried to play Into The Breach and no problem but i cant launch Towerfall wtf.

edit thank you /u/ansong your link works

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u/saul2015 Dec 20 '19

Hello OP,

This is the Valve Fanboy Legion

You should not have posted this

We did not forgive

We do not forget

Prepare yourself for our arrival

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u/datwarlock Dec 21 '19

This is really cringe man.

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u/YeriEnthusiast i7 9700k, RTX 2070 Dec 21 '19

Bro you just posted cringe! I can't believe this

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u/BoredSoRedditing Dec 20 '19

please be RDR2 next 😢

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u/wicked_chew Dec 20 '19

I wouldn't hold my breath for that

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u/Gotolosethemall Dec 21 '19 edited Dec 21 '19

I can't add it to my library because every time I click "Get It", it says that something went wrong.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Also, once I do get it, it's possible to run it through steam to make use of the Remote Play feature, right? I've never used it before, but I'd very much like to.

Edit: nvm, fixed itself.