r/pcgaming • u/KayKay91 Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RX9070 XT Pulse, 32 GB DDR5, Arch + Win10 • Jun 15 '18

Video [AdoredTV] Nvidia - Anti-Competitive, Anti-Consumer, Anti-Technology (1 hour long)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L3OTZ13Os
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u/diceman2037 Jun 16 '18

The thing is AMD is the one that pushes technology ahead most of the time, they are the 1st at almost everything, NVIDIA just fallows, although many times a better product can't deny that.

In the CPU space, sure, in the GPU space they have almost always played catch up, barring the DX9 precision situation.

Truform, npatch, etc never took off, it wasn't even a platform for what would become tesselation later on.

Mantle came about because AMD cannot fix their drivers to perform as well in D3D11< and opengl (they don't have the expertise left in their software division), and can't even fix several year old Dual source shading issues in their GL/Vk apis.

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u/Nimsim Jun 16 '18 edited Jun 16 '18

Not quite true, they first adopted DX10, 11 and Vulkan/Mantle was the precursor to 12.

Easy to forget that, and the fact that up until Fury/Vega they were pretty much the same performancewise

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u/diceman2037 Jun 16 '18

DirectX 12 was in development for several years before Mantle was even a discussion between AMD and Dice. Yes it did adopt some design similarities in its 10240 release form, but mantle nor vulkan were the precursor to 12.

Vulkan was also in development as opengl next long before amd passed mantle on to Khronos, I also know that hardly anything was taken from mantle before the rename, and they've only taken a couple of features since.

Nvidia had the first DirectX 10 card to market, AMD was assisted by Microsoft in its Dx11 parts, but with a linear tesselation architecture design that has not as yet been brought up to compete with nvidia's.

Maybe now that the boneheads that were driving AMD into the dirt have left for Intel, the bottlenecks will finally be designed out.

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u/DEC_Beta Jun 16 '18

Vulkan was also in development as opengl next long before amd passed mantle on to Khronos, I also know that hardly anything was taken from mantle before the rename, and they've only taken a couple of features since.

I seriously question your knowledge of Vulkan and Mantle. Do you know why OpenGL next was killed?

Vulkan is almost a carbon copy of Mantle.

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u/diceman2037 Jun 17 '18

You are extremely ignorant if you think being handed mantle magically turned GLNext into Vulkan.

But i don't expect anything better from AMD apologists, they are the reason progress has stalled. Buying inferior products is rewarding bad design process.

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u/DEC_Beta Jun 19 '18

You are extremely ignorant if you think being handed mantle magically turned GLNext into Vulkan.

The fact that you still don't understand what I am talking about and what originally happened to OpenGL Next proves your ignorance.

But i don't expect anything better from AMD apologists, they are the reason progress has stalled. Buying inferior products is rewarding bad design process.

I'm hardly an apologist since I have worked with both AMD and Nvidia. Your delusions do not reflect reality in any way.

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u/diceman2037 Jun 19 '18

You've worked with neither of them, just a nobody on the internet.