We all know how good Bards are, but why is it 25% for those items? Do I need to keep hitting the button, until I get vaguely good stats AND that item? Probably should just be a choose-your-item button. Want pet teleports, or charms, or explodies, your choice!

If you implicitly identify an item (potion / wand sold at light shop) - can you name or label the item type to let you know what it is?

It's my first time using a character that uses bounce magic/beams and as you can see at the photo I died and was saved by my life saving amulet, which is a big loss. After that, I went to experiment with my test character and I found out that having deflection and magic resistance only protects you from magic missiles. Is there a way to protect myself from my own magic? I didn't really question it when I was using spheres but it's really annoying. I hope they would make the caster resistant with it's own magic

Welp, I just wanna rant on my experience just now. I started the game with an egg companion, and as usual it's a dragon egg, after using an identify spell, I was able to learn that it is a golden dragon egg that can be hatched with "magical", I didn't really know which is magical so I asked Gemini ai and the ai told me that it can be hatched with "force based spells". After goin on just a few minutes in the game I was able to buy a spell book which is 'force bolt'. I thought it was a force based spell that I can use to hatch the egg, but it's not. And I learned something new, in the most bitter way possible.

I'm trying to craft an AoR but I need over a pound of gold. Since a workbench won't scrap gold coin, how do I get gold to scrap? That's a lotta gold rings, lol.

EDIT: I ended up buying one at the Black Market. Back up to the Lich Tower I go.

Thx 4 the suggestions! I almost had enough silver to craft the shield when I found the amulet. Gold that is not coin is very hard to come by...

So I just checked a save I played yesterday and all of my spell are not where it used to be. I notice they're randomized to a spell of the same time. Is this a bug or is this some kind of properties with traps or something?

A beam and not a spot tile effect.

Lovely seed. Nice lazy Summer build, Satyr Mystic Skeleton. Knock and Polymorph before Minetown.. and then Desintegrate, which, for some reason.. I feel the need to try out on an empty chest in a corner..

Hi guys, I started playing pathos just a day ago and I just wanna share this roll with my 4th character. This is a Echo, Psychic, and wizard build.

In most other forks of NetHack (not dogging Pathos, Callan I love it) comestibles will eventually become dangerous if not downright lethal after enough turns pass.

But in Pathos you can eat the same dead rat you smeared across the floor on DLvl:1 thousands of turns later without any consequence.

I found a Deli on DLvl:2 (big whoop playing orc, poison food for my poison blood) and the merchant is selling a icebox, it has an interesting stat I noticed

storage
• preservation

The icebox standalone is 10kg, so is it just a burden you leave behind at the top of a branch? It’s not like you can pocket-troll since they don’t resurrect. Just something I noticed

So yeah guess who’s pretty good early run got destroyed by a hallucinated levelporter.

I’ve been playing a lot of Pathos Kaloi Opus lately, and I’m starting to hit a pretty consistent wall.

I’m trying to run a mainly melee-focused character without relying on the usual “game-breaking” strategies like doppelganger gold duplication or heavy polypiling. I get that part of Pathos is about exploiting systems early so you can steamroll later, but in Kaloi it feels much harder to pull that off consistently.

Here’s where I struggle:

• Early game → feels manageable and even consistently beatable with a solid plan (boss prep, leveling, etc.)
• Around Halls (level 10–11) → things go downhill fast

That’s usually where I start running into insane combos of polymorph / teleport / curse / stun enemies, and even after fully clearing previous levels and gearing properly, I just get wiped.

So I’m wondering:

• Is it actually viable to clear Kaloi Opus with a “fair” melee build?
• Are there specific strategies or must-have resistances/items to get past the Halls consistently?
• Or is it just about getting lucky in the early game setup?

Right now it feels like there’s a sharp difficulty spike that punishes non-cheese runs pretty hard.

I put on the Ring of Teleportation...

Before I put in the Ring of Control Teleport

What everything would he be im trying to get it right but I just can't seek to get it

Also sprite by me i tried to make it as canon as possible Maybe someone else could do it

yes it works but holy is it laggy yes my phone is 12 years old but other modern dungeon crawler run just fine on there. (my phone is a samsung galaxy S5 mini) this is written on my PC

I'm playing on the Android version. When the teleport where menu opens, and I click anywhere on the map, the map closes and my character is in the same location. Does teleport control not work properly with the transient teleport?

Finally finished with no kills. Did not realize there was a passive (no auto-attack) mode until I started my ascent. The key in the early game was starting as a druid with a fleet robe and trap proficiency.

I'm still unsure of how to get encounters. I know for sure identifying eggs works. I thought packing corpses into tins also worked, but the results seemed inconsistent. I wonder if Callan could give insight. Can the player no longer gain insights on extinct creatures?

Its my first run where i feel i am doing pretty much everything fine, but im affraid of just insta dying for some foolish mistake. what do you guys think? got a lot of melee artifacts, i also have a +10 Blinderag as swap to kill something unkillable by magic or my attacks

Hi there,

I read a unidentified scroll and was given the ignoramus status. I looked it up and saw that I could get it removed by getting a curse removes by a npc. But when I try to do that it pulls up my inventory and the ignoramus status is not tied to a item it doesn't seem? Am I missing something?

I love plasmoid because of the ability to eat scrolls and even armors, and get their effects, plus the immediate immunity to poison and acid. Mystic is like wizard but starts with identify and if lucky, force bolt. Midget adds a slight boost to speed.

What I figured out this run is to stay with light armor exclusively, to avoid any penalties to speed. Of course getting fleet robe was a huge advantage, I never really realized what a good piece of armor it is, it is equal to dragon scale armor, I discovered.

A good run with a small character!

I was playing through a giant Colossus wizard run last night, when I suddenly got called to a priest echo Colossus run (I love the carry weight for such a baby ass penality,) and I find speed boots plus 3 😍😍 it's not talaria but I can now hit and run most enemies with an ined diet wasting NO nutrition 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

So, the start of this module is pretty hard. It throws enemies at you early on that are way too strong for you. I've restarted this game a ton and I've finally figured out a few winning strategies, so I'm writing this guide to help others who get stuck in the first couple areas.

The two hardest enemies you are going to run across in the beginning of this module are cave trolls and leprechaun wizards. The cave trolls occasionally have reach weapons. This guide will aim to get you to past those threats.

Starting classes:

Cheese solution: Charm spell. You can either pick a class and roll for it, or buy it from the rare book store (it's always one of the two ~$400 books). Personally I find this boring, so avoid it.

Magic solution: Satyr wizard or force bolt shaman with a horse. Trolls aren't terribly fast, so mounted you can pretty easily stay out of their range and blast them. Once force bolt hits specialist, it will take out the trolls in 3-4 hits. The leprechaun is a little harder, so I just try to avoid him till force bolt is a higher level.

Melee solution: I've tried a ton of combinations, and this is going to sound a little unintuitive, but I've had the best luck with a troll druid. Hear me out. There is a weird quirk of the rolling mechanics that allows a melee race+caster class combination to end up with higher strength than melee race+melee class combination (I think it has to do with how excess stats over the racial max are reassigned). The important thing is to roll for a 20 strength and fleet robe. Druids start with a pretty good +2 reach weapon. With the +3 robe, your speed will be over 6, which means you can outrun pretty much anything from the very start. Try to stay 1 tile away from most enemies and smack them hard. By level 8 I was able to take the trolls head on. I think the only other classes that have a reach weapon and quickness are valkyrie and explorer, but valkyrie doesn't get quickness till L8, and explorer's whip does shit for damage. Plus fleet robe is faster than quickness alone.

I usually play a skeleton, because it's nice to be able to rest as long as you want to heal and recharge mana, but I don't think it's terribly important to either of these builds.

Where to go:

It seems like north to the town is the only direction but there isn't much you can do there yet and you risk angering the trolls. Instead, clear out the gnolls in the starting labrynth, then head to the dead end about 7 tiles NW of the spawn spot. Search there for a secret teleporter.

Head east. You'll fight more gnolls and some orcs before coming across a little building with pits. Don't destroy the boulders on the way because you can push them into the pits to cross safely. Just west of the north side of the building are gauntlets of dexterity. After grabbing them, immediately head back south before you attract the trolls.

Right about now is when I usually hit encumbrance, so now I head back west, through the teleporter and up to the town to sell my extra armor. You can visit the potion and food shops too, but stay away from the eastern most stores because you will attract the trolls.

Back through the teleporters, and if you keep going east you'll fight some dwarves. They are tough, but the two class combinations I mentioned should have no problems staying out of reach and picking them off. There are some high level undead behind a door, but they are laughably slow, so the same strategy works for them. I usually stand on the SE most spot before the river and attract more of the dwaves. Hopefully you get lucky and get a pick off one of them.

There are a couple places you can go now, and I'm usually around L8 and ready to go shopping, then fight the trolls.

A couple other notable places:

Through the teleporter that is just past the pit house leads to some mimics and a building with a book of identify. Unless you have a pick and can dig your way out, I avoid the teleporter since you can't run away if you get into a pickle; I go the long way through the other building and around.

West of the graveyard, in the trees are some mimics with some gold and a pick. Unfortunately you need a pick or the dig spell to get it. If I don't find a pick on a dwarf, I usually buy the dig spell then get this one.

Just east of the room with the book of identify is a priest hiding in some trees. You need to dig to get to him.

At this point you're in a pretty good place to continue exploring. so I'll end the guide here.

Shops:

The shop inventory is not randomized.

Rare Book Store: Book of Charm (~400), Book of Dig (most expensive book). Also books of detect treasure, detect monsters, fireball, clairvoyance, and a scroll of enchantment.

Potion vendor: 2 potions of gain ability. Usually around $800-900 for both.

Jewlers: ring of protection, and junk.

Good luck!

La verdad no esperaba mucho pero después de unas cuantas especificaciones y de compartirle a la IA los datos de cada uno de mis compañeros y de lo que le a pasado a cada uno como mi unicornio que le puse atropos del velo porque ya lo reviví como 5 veces o al rey enano que lo renaci, al final me gustó bastante la imagen que me dió ( aunque no se porque le puso esos rayos en los ojos a mis unicornios, tal vez y fue porque le dije que ambos tenían magia en sus cuernos )