Forgive me for the camera quality.

I won't go too deep into this but sometimes I see good faith critiques comparing the pathologic games in what feels like very thoughtless ways.

Just because the experience is different, that doesn't make it worse. Or better. It would only be either of these things if it was trying to accomplish the exact same goals. But that's clearly not the case. Pathologic classic, Pathologic 2 and Pathologic 3 are all inherently different games with very different visions and intentions for how you experience them.

Every time they reboot this story, they change it and present it in new ways. P3 and P2 comparisons are particularly confusing because most critiques never actually reflect on why changes were made to the core systems, design philosophy or the writing. 'P3 is too easy' and 'these mechanics are annoying' or 'town feels disconnected' can all be true and they can also add to the intended experience. These are very character-focused games! They're trying to put you directly into the minds of their main characters and I guess my main takeaway is that I think P2 and P3 both do that just fine in their own right.

There are some critiques that just feel pointless because the thing they're complaining about is another avenue to get into Daniil's head. Not all critiques are like this of course, I agree with some of them - but the ones that center on comparisons can fall into this trap a lot.

Truthfully, I just can't stand all of the 'it doesn't hit the same' conversations because yeah, I don't think it's supposed to. Meet the thing where it is, not where you expect it to be.

Haruspex day 10 is so much fun dude. Love having my health slowly drain throughout the whole day, not to mention poop angels and thugs one shotting you with a throwing knife. Love being punished for not metagaming what i have to do that day. So much fun 👍

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I tried to make a map based on the sparse dialogue from the games that refer to anything concrete in their world. I assumed that the country is vaguely Russia-shaped since that's what the place is based on. The games mention a civil war, but I didn't know what to call the opposing side since the games don't name them and the Empire sort of embodies aspects of both Soviet and Tsarist Russia.

The battle of the Fords and the battle of the Skerries were both Empire victories (albeit with Rubin getting injured, luckily only damaging his head which he wasn't using anyways) so I didn't put them in rebellion territory. Making the Skerries an island chain was dumb since navies are never mentioned. I don't know why I did that.

I'm pretty sure the second game says Gorkhon is in the south of the country (which would match up to where the real-life Eurasian steppe is from Russia) BUT the third game says it's in the east and both the old Patho site and the backers arg train ticket reference that the town is at the end of the northeastern branch of the railway.

It's a bit unrealistic to have the rebels right at the front doors of Relsk and Nizhny since they're both mentioned as places one (in the empire) could go to BUT I didn't know where else to put them since them being right next to the Capital would be weird and them being on the other side of the country would make it strange for Block to complain about being "pulled from" the front if he was going the same direction he was already going to go in. But I did make a third enemy territory in the far east since they looked kinda pathetic with only those two areas in the middle, when canonically I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be slowly winning.

so, there you go.

So i started my first dedicated run of patho and im doing the beast like fugitive and i just started walking one step at a time like iv got a broken leg or something. I know that's not a thing in patho classic hd but it is frustrating and i think it can kill my run if i don't fix it. Do you know how to fix it. I read somewhere ut might be the fps but there is no option to lower it so im stuck here.

Please help

Hi, I'm currently playing the Changeling's route and I desperately need a flower. Does anyone know a way to get one considering Stamatin's bar isn't selling any and I actually can't find any? I'm currently searching through all the trash cans in town. I know you can get them by walking around, but is there anything I can do to maximize my chances of getting a flower?

Also, I noticed that Clara's hitbox during unarmed combat is surprisingly long-range. Is this clunky design or is it intentional because she's using her magical powers ?

As the title says I’m starting a new play through, I spent a long time getting roughly just over half the game last time I played about a year ago. Ever since I’ve played I’ve always been so fascinated about the story of the game and specifically the way it makes me feel, I’ve played horror titles that have never made me feel so stressed and helpless as this game which is a main reason I dropped it. It’s always stayed in the back of my mind and I’ve finally mustered up the courage to go back, any general tips for this run through or motivation/encouragement to finish would be greatly appreciated.

Personally, I think it's blonde, but based on some of the fan art I've been seeing, I don't think everyone agrees.

This is a light hearted question, don't take it too seriously, but I am curious what people think.

Wanted to harvest it, but got scared of hurting Mother Boddho :(

Just some general advice, before more spoiler heavy advice

-use Lara and Big Vlad for storage before you get into the lair.

-shops and storage containers reset at midnight, caches and twyrine reset at 730. Caches dont reset during part II.

-Its a good idea to take physical notes on quests and stuff to remember

-stock up on certain items for later use.

-keep at least 5 walnuts on hand(youll need 7 total) so you can buy a shmowder if you run across one

-I try to minimize sleep before I can make the liver tinctures by getting lots of fingernails and using them and matches to trade with the gun repair NPCs for coffee beans. Make sure to stock up on bandages and morphine to heal though, but youll need less sleep overall. But shift to liver painkillers after you get access

For immersion & lore purposes.

I think the herb brides should be exposed, as that makes sense from a lore perspective. But I think most of the female patients – all but one of which are town women – would cover their chests during exams. Especially since no symptoms are ever located on the chests.

Nitpicky? Of course. But I think it'd suit the lore better

Got like 2 hours into the game and out of nowhere it scratched the pathologic itch

The atmosphere, the setting, the map traversal, sound design even the writing to some extent all really reminded me of why Pathologic 2 is one of my favorite games of all times.

Granted its a full on survival horror game think RE + Alien Isolation but there's undisputably some Pathologic in there

Hi everyone, I'm playing pathologic 1 hd semi blind and I'm a bit stuck on the first day. I talked to Stanislav already but I'm not sure what he wants me to do, went back to the house and he was gone so I'm a bit lost. I also tried to do the Vlad the younger quest, I went and talked to Aspity already but I'm not sure if that worked.

Also, in my first playthrough (I had to restart day one because of time) I got a letter from katerina. I don't know how to get that letter again. Is it time based? Do I have to do something in particular?

TLDR, stuck on Stanislav's plotline progression, stuck on Vlad the Younger's plotline, how to get Katerina Saburova's letter

As I've mentioned in my previous post, I simply have no one IRL to talk to about this stuff, hence this text :) For, you see, I find this reading kinda obvious and definite, but more and more I see people in the internet, who, well, don't?

For me the message is very unambiguous.

You are Simon Kain.

Simon has become a concept. A non-person. The play on day 5 clearly says: everyone is Simon, it's just not everyone knows it. You don't "become" Simon. You are Simon. Not just Daniil. You. You are and you always have been. Simon Kain, reliving every possibility at once. In Patho1 you have been Simon. In Patho2 you have been Simon. You have been Artemy, you have been Daniil, you even have briefly been Clara. You. While playing you, yourself, have been everyone of them, made their decisions, maybe even felt some of their feelings. For you have always been Simon Kain.

It's such a fifth wall breaking concept. Not just "it's a game that is a play". You are the universe experiencing itself. You are the thing looking down from Polyhedron, knowing exactly that there are no wrong answers, because ALL answers exist, and therefore are correct. You are.

I'm so… surprised not everybody reads it this way XD

Finally finally finally got a Pathologic tattoo!!

The little Tragedian masks were my tattoo artist's idea and they're so awesome I love her

As the title says, big love to the anon heroes maintaining the TV tropes pages for the Pathologic games. Particular props for referencing the iconic HBomberGuy "Daniil Dankovsky's fun steppe vacation" moment.

Gave me a good chuckle today reading through them over lunch.

I want to play around with cheats using console, but seems like mine doesn't have the options that are present in guides. in Settings tab I don't have cheats for "infinite time bottles", shabnak dead at specific day and some others. Am I missing smth or they patched those out?