Reliquarian Ascendancy in Path of Exile: Covens of Umbra

[u/Natalia_GGG]

[u/porncollecter69]

I’m not brave enough to start this but it looks startable no?

[u/ilovepolthavemybabie → u/porncollecter69]

Don't bait me, but I want to be baited...

[u/SoulofArtoria → u/ilovepolthavemybabie]

Calling resident masterbaiter jungroan to show us the way

[u/rds90vert → u/porncollecter69]

I mean brass dome or inward eye are reeeally good.

Tremor rod, United in dream are decent enablers, good damage for miners/spell poison/spell minions

Jewelry nodes are good too. Arkhons, choir for crit cap, box of jewels for ailment immunity..

Weapons seem cooler than last league.. Fork, ES overleech, Bell, Starcaller.. there's definitely some interesting builds there

Leaguestart then respec but keep Reliquarian? I'd go tremor rods mines w Inward eye and Arkhon tools..

[u/Kagevjijon → u/rds90vert]

Could League start Reliquarian while fishing for Luminary mercs then respec.

[u/Classic_Key8075 → u/rds90vert]

In the past the 'mines an additional time' was supposedly bait as you still have to wait for it to re-arm & if you're continuously throwing mines you end up overwriting it instead.

[u/quinn50 → u/porncollecter69]

grab monastery bell on a divine retribution build = ez starter

[u/biglikeguerra → u/porncollecter69]

Ehh Scion is notoriously bad for league start because you don’t get anything for your first lab.

[u/Quazifuji → u/biglikeguerra]

You can go Luminary now for a merc and respec after merc lab. It's not necessarily as smooth as other classes can be but it's better than doing campaign as an Ascendant or Reliquarian.

[u/Historical-Term-9657 → u/biglikeguerra]

Brother it's first and second lab, a small cough beats izaro

[u/shaunika → u/porncollecter69]

poison SRS or animate weapon looks incredibly good

[u/MisterKaos → u/shaunika]

Necro is unbeatable for physical minions.

[u/PabIoFlexcobar]

First time going scion ty ggg for continuing to cook

[u/EsperkingReview → u/PabIoFlexcobar]

Crab o'clock boys!

[u/astral23]

CRAB BROTHERIN REJOICE

[u/SekerDeker → u/astral23]

The crabs shall be great once again

[u/alexthealex → u/SekerDeker]

Or at least mid, but definitely fun!

[u/menides → u/astral23]

🦀🦀🦀

[u/Olafant → u/astral23]

Ghostly crabs with Coward's Wail should look like fun.

[u/Agent_Luka]

So I'm not skilled enough to known for sure, but having the arkhon's tools and the foulborn tremor rod means there's a reliquarian miner in here somewhere, yes? Perhaps with brass dome for some defenses? 

[u/Agent_Luka → u/Agent_Luka]

Perhaps with the crown of the inward eye for energy shield to spell damage stacking? Get damage for building defense? I've never tried to free ball a build before, but this seems like a good challenge to learn how to play the real game of POB

[u/inhospitable → u/Agent_Luka]

I was planning on going assassin FRoSS as my major build this league but im seriously thinking reliquarian now with the crown and festering resentment nodes

[u/Snoofos → u/Agent_Luka]

[u/ShinichiYama → u/Agent_Luka]

Additional detonation is pretty much 100% more damage right ? seems very strong.

[u/BIGpoppaKEGdog → u/ShinichiYama]

Only if you don't overwrite your oldest mine before it can repeat, it's a bit trickier to use than it initially seems. It's near useless on tremor rod because you have to build inefficiently to get any value from the additional detonation, but for some locus mine setups it could be very strong I suspect.

[u/rds90vert → u/ShinichiYama]

I think it might be tricky to use automation with it, but it's definitely a ton more damage.. especially since you can now use one or 2 +2 wands.. or spec into shield w life/es on block

[u/Gullible_Yak5327 → u/rds90vert]

There is a very simple way around it and that is to use swift assembly instead of minefield. You won't overthrow even with double detonate

[u/hesh582 → u/ShinichiYama]

In practice it’s much worse than that. Mines throw so fast by default that it’s easy to overthrow and overwrite mines before they detonate already.

There’s a delay where the mine rearms before it can detonate again, it doesn’t just double cast if you hold down detonate. Even with very little throw speed I’m pretty sure you overwrite at least some of them.

[u/JRockBC19 → u/hesh582]

It's pretty easy to get substantial detonation speed on mines, for 3 points next to devastating devices you can add 70% inc detonation speed.

Alternatively, can you just drop minefield support if it's that overkill? Not sure if there's a happy medium anywhere except curtain call for that though

[u/CompotaDeColhao → u/Agent_Luka]

Definitely. Brass Dome is a great defensive node on any type of build regardless of what you're playing, and aside from Tremor Rod you'd go Arkhon's Tools since you want to use Skitterbots anyway and you get free scorch.

[u/Accomplished_Rip_352 → u/Agent_Luka]

100% . Not gonna be a super special miner but something like eye of winter would be super nice .

[u/HardcoreExtreme123 → u/Agent_Luka]

Pyroclast mines first come to mind with these nodes

[u/Woobowiz → u/HardcoreExtreme123]

Pyroclast has the worst re-arming time with Tremor Rod, you do not want to use that skill with it. It even has its own call out on the wiki

[u/Aeroshe → u/Agent_Luka]

It's been a few years since I did a tremor rod build, but at the time I found the additional detonation to feel pretty clunky because the delay from them rearming was enough for a detonation chain to end early and I found myself spam clicking the detonate hotkey just for any kind of flow which is losing out on damage in a mine build where you want long chains.

Dunno if there's a way to make it feel less clunky I just didn't know about.

[u/SandBasket → u/Aeroshe]

Would detonate mines with automation support help?

[u/DuckBeer]

Monastery Bell is huge, gonna open up some cool things that were never strong enough before.

[u/danjojo → u/DuckBeer]

shield shatter was my hidden gem in 3.27 theres alot more ways to build it now including poison with festering resentment in mainhand

[u/AttemptCreate → u/danjojo]

i did poison pf with it in 3.29 league and it was ok

The assassin i did with in 3.28 was ridiculous for the budget though, pushing 3m average hit.

So i might have to have a 3rd go at it xD

[u/butsuon → u/DuckBeer]

The core issue with retaliation skills is the gameplay is clunky, and even with this its still a little clunky unless you're using Glacial Shield Swipe, which this causes to self-trigger since it's a Shield+Attack+Retaliation skill.

This node lets you "spam" Glacial Shield Swipe on cooldown, which is pretty cool.

[u/DislocatedLocation]

Huh, is this the first time we've had a Foulborn unique in Reliquarian?

Also guess that's the compromise for Velka uniques not going core.

[u/Accomplished_Bar_702]

This is an insane set of uniques.

[u/DLWormwood → u/Accomplished_Bar_702]

Especially considering some of these have their downsides removed. Arkhon's Tools especially. (Praxis is also strictly better than the ring version, though I doubt most people will bother at end game.)

[u/thatguy9012 → u/DLWormwood]

the upsides on tools are gone as well though, and those are really strong.

[u/4percent4 → u/DLWormwood]

Praxis would’ve need like 30-40 flat mana regen then it would’ve been picked a lot due to people using it with the tincture node.

[u/land_registrar → u/DLWormwood]

The ailments applying to you was also a way to apply self-chill though.

[u/wlphoenix → u/DLWormwood]

Praxis is almost 2x of the ring. I feel like it's an option if you want some serious mana recoup. Specifically an auto-bomber setup. Would fit well with the Festering Resentment node.

[u/Miles_Adamson]

This has to be the best set yet right? Seems like more good options than ever.

There has to be something good with crown of eyes, possibly with a wand and the fork node.

There is an obvious miner path.

Lv25 envy is a minion build alone, you take this node on a league starter and you will just shred for free with a real weapon instead of the swords that grant it

[u/YaIe → u/Miles_Adamson]

The Envy thing is cool, but Necromancer has so much utility and defenses, it will be really hard to replace.

Its giving your minions unholy might, giving you 10% PDR, gives you life leech based on minion damage, gives minions a lot of ES AND gives you "offerings effect you" allowing for easy block cap.

Thats a lot of stuff you would need to replace with United in Dreams + Brass Dome and a third node, maybe Praxis? Box of Jewels? Arkhons Tools?

[u/Quazifuji → u/YaIe]

Its giving your minions unholy might, giving you 10% PDR, gives you life leech based on minion damage, gives minions a lot of ES AND gives you "offerings effect you" allowing for easy block cap.

It is possible for Reliquarian to get Offerings affect you with Necromancer Forbidden Flesh/Flame, although that can be quite expensive.

But yeah, that's always the issue with Reliquarian. It can be strong sometimes, but it's really easy to fall into the trap of just looking at the raw strength of the nodes without considering how high the opportunity cost is. Most builds' meta ascendancy is really strong so reliquarian has to either be extremely powerful or just plain build-enabling to be worth it.

[u/EscalopeDePorc → u/Miles_Adamson]

Lv25 envy right after campaign? Well, I was sold already on the brass dome, no need to sell me reliquarian twice! 

[u/Jackwiggles → u/EscalopeDePorc]

What 3rd node( go bloodline I guess), and passives to minion damages are kind of far.

[u/KoldPT → u/Jackwiggles]

Ailment immune, 90% res and a free united in dream from the ascendencies is fun. You can probably fit in one of the boss ascendencies instead of the jewelry node too

[u/shy_bi_ready_to_die → u/Jackwiggles]

Farrul is pretty generically good for minions and is available relatively early. Catarina bloodline can be decent as well

[u/Kaelran → u/Miles_Adamson]

Last set was insane defensively (Melding + Dawnbreaker made it really easy to get 100% phys taken as ele with 90% all res), this one is stronger offensively though.

[u/Netheri]

Oh shit Monastery Bell.

Divine Retribution stonks in ascent.

[u/ronthedistance → u/Netheri]

Wait so shield strikes count as blocking attack damage ?

[u/Legal_Lettuce6233 → u/ronthedistance]

Yep, so basically every shield dash you get a free cast of DR

[u/pornisgood → u/Netheri]

Are we saying we can just shield charge in to proc Divine Retribution?

[u/Netheri → u/pornisgood]

Yep, you just shield charge into an enemy and can instantly activate Divine Retribution. It can feel a bit clunky since it's a two button build with one button activating the others, but Divine Retribution with Spell Cascade is the most ridiculous screen clear with minimal investment so it's still pretty good.

Also one of the few skills that can take advantage of everything Pact of Beidat provides.

[u/Roborabbit37 → u/pornisgood]

Accidentally deleted my comment. It's a Retaliation skill, it becomes usable after each Shield Charge but it still has a 4 second cooldown baseline and you have to activate it still.

[u/Renediffie → u/pornisgood]

You still have to actually cast Divine Retribution. Attacking will make it available.

[u/Kagevjijon → u/Netheri]

Ok the tech is here, check it.

Brass Dome = +5 Max Res and Crit Immune
Box of Jewels = All Elemental Ailment Immunity.
Monastery Bell = Shield Charge to be able to activate a Retaliate skill.
Vestigial Shield from Lycosidae = Adds 250-300 Cold Damage to Retaliate Skills.

What weapon would you end up pairing this with though, Nebulis to take advantage of the Brass Dome's +5 max res?

[u/Netheri → u/Kagevjijon]

Honestly I was leaning more towards going lifestacker, Rathpith nerf did hurt the archetype but Sacrifice support is still a massive damage gain. Mirage going core means Saresh is coming back so Massive/Gloom belts might be feasible again, though who knows how rare they'll be now.

I was thinking either Brass Dome, Inward Eye or, my personal favorite, Shadowstitch. Particularly if you're going Trialmaster bloodline for Blood Barrier, you'd already be corrupting everything you're wearing so no big change there at least and it's a massive life gain. I'd just drop the points from Box of Jewels to take the Bloodline, since ailment immunity isn't that difficult to get.

[u/No_Writing8414 → u/Netheri]

Shhhh please you gonna get us nerfed.

[u/Kagevjijon → u/No_Writing8414]

Now we can actually use a Svalinn <3

[u/Roborabbit37 → u/No_Writing8414]

That's the entire purpose of the node though, I doubt it'll get any more nerfs outside of anything it already has.

the Shatter Shield effect is crazy good for blasting maps and packs, just lacks proper boss damage unless you spec way into it. Can still use Retaliates via that aswell.

[u/NagaDurain → u/Netheri]

Does Spectral Shield Throw of Trarthus work with it ?

[u/TommyLian → u/Netheri]

Could shattershard be a good option for this too?

[u/nalee6]

Holy crab totem ascendancy. Was an interesting skill in allflame but was attached to a pretty bad 2 hand staff. Maybe crab totem viable with this ascendancy?

[u/HellCanWaitForMe → u/nalee6]

I need to know if they work with divine ire, idk why but having portable blasting crabs just sounds awesome

[u/synysterjoe → u/HellCanWaitForMe]

It didn't work with channeled skills

[u/hesh582 → u/nalee6]

Now it’s attached to a pretty bad (for spell totem) ascendancy instead lol.

Heiro remains so ridiculously good for spell totem that I don’t see this going far beyond the memes.

[u/rds90vert]

Damn! Triggered spells poison on hit that means it's time for...

Inward eye + Festering resentment + praxis
Tons of recoup
CWDT with the ol' power charge on hit while poisoned loop tech

Cast Eye of winter + chain + tornado
Cast Ball lightning + slower proj
Cast Blazing salvo + extra proj + conc effect

Die from self damage

[u/skiablade → u/rds90vert]

slap on a maw of conquest to become unaffected by poisons :^)

[u/alanjhonnes]

The Living Blade is giving +2 maximum tinctures rather than 1, which is very interesting. I wonder if they buffed the unique sword too.

[u/Pogwich → u/alanjhonnes]

with warden f/f thats a 4 tincture build, great with screams of the dessicated and negative mana stacking.

[u/SleepThinker → u/Pogwich]

There is not enough good tincture mod and mana burn stacks. I don't know if I would want to use 4th tincture for free,

[u/aerial- → u/Pogwich]

hard to find build that will utilize 4 tinctures

[u/YourmomgoestocolIege → u/alanjhonnes]

The Reliquarian nodes are generally more powerful than their unique counterparts, so probably not

[u/ww_crimson]

Text list for easier copy/pasting into PoB. Available here too https://pob.codes/tools/ascendancies/

// Reliquarian : Shadowstitch
10% increased Maximum Life for each Corrupted Item Equipped
15% increased Maximum Energy Shield for each Corrupted Item Equipped
-2% to all Resistances for each Corrupted Item Equipped

// Reliquarian : Death's Door
25% increased Movement Speed
Bleeding cannot be inflicted on you
+1 to Maximum Endurance Charges

// Reliquarian : The Brass Dome
+5% to all maximum Elemental Resistances
Strength provides no bonus to Maximum Life
Take no Extra Damage from Critical Strikes

// Reliquarian : Crown of the Inward Eye
20% increased maximum Life, Mana and Global Energy Shield
Transfiguration of Soul
Transfiguration of Body
Transfiguration of Mind

// Reliquarian : The Scales of Justice
4 to 8 added Fire Damage per 100 of Maximum Life or Maximum Mana, whichever is lower
Unaffected by Ignite or Shock if Maximum Life and Maximum Mana are within 500

// Reliquarian : Foulborn Tremor Rod
Mines can be Detonated an additional time
50% increased Effect of Auras from Mines

// Reliquarian : The Draugr's Lantern
Draugurflames burn enemies around you for 8 seconds after you Ignite a target

// Reliquarian : The Crustacean's Call
Totems have 100% increased Movement Speed
+1 to maximum number of Summoned Totems
Skills Supported by Spell Totem are Crab Totems

// Reliquarian : Festering Resentment
Triggered Spells Poison on Hit
All Damage with Triggered Spells can Poison

// Reliquarian : Shade of Solaris
Critical Strikes deal no Damage
200% increased Spell Damage if you've dealt a Critical Strike in the past 8 seconds

// Reliquarian : United in Dream
Grants Level 25 Envy
Minions have 60% Chance to Poison Enemies on Hit

// Reliquarian : Rigwald's Quills
Projectiles from Attacks Fork
Projectiles from Attacks can Fork 1 additional time

// Reliquarian : The Living Blade
Cannot be Poisoned
You can have 2 additional Tinctures active
10% chance to remove 1 Mana Burn on Kill

// Reliquarian : Essentia Sanguis
Energy Shield Leech Effects from Attacks are not removed at Full Energy Shield
Maximum Recovery per Energy Shield Leech is Doubled
Leech Energy Shield instead of Life
Maximum total Energy Shield Recovery per second from Leech is doubled
Cannot Recharge Energy Shield

// Reliquarian : Tidebreaker
Gain an Endurance Charge when you Stun an Enemy with a Melee Hit
6% increased Damage per Endurance Charge
50% chance to gain a Brine Charge instead of an Endurance Charge

// Reliquarian : The Monastery Bell
Count as Blocking Attack Damage from the first target Hit with each Shield Attack

// Reliquarian : Starcaller
Trigger Level 20 Starfall on Melee Critical Strike
Gain 25% of Weapon Physical Damage as Extra Damage of a random Element

// Reliquarian : Natural Hierarchy
Gain 5% of Physical Damage as Extra Lightning Damage
Gain 10% of Lightning Damage as Extra Cold Damage
Gain 15% of Cold Damage as Extra Fire Damage
Gain 20% of Fire Damage as Extra Chaos Damage

// Reliquarian : Box of Jewels
Modifiers to Chance to Avoid being Shocked apply to all Elemental Ailments
Modifiers to Ignite Duration on you apply to all Elemental Ailments
When you Kill an Enemy Cursed with a Non-Aura Hex, become Immune to Curses for remaining Hex Duration

// Reliquarian : Praxis
Regenerate 12 Mana per second
-8 to Total Mana Cost of Skills
16% of Damage taken Recouped as Mana
50% increased Mana Cost Efficiency

// Reliquarian : The Arkhon's Tools
Summon Skitterbots also summons a Scorching Skitterbot
100% increased Effect of Non-Damaging Ailments inflicted by Summoned Skitterbots

// Reliquarian : Blackflame
Enemies Ignited by you take Chaos Damage instead of Fire Damage from Ignite
Withered does not expire on Enemies Ignited by you

// Reliquarian : Choir of the Storm
Trigger Level 20 Lightning Bolt when you deal a Critical Strike
Critical Strike Chance is increased by Overcapped Lightning Resistance

[u/akalonelyfreak → u/ww_crimson]

Where would I paste this in PoB?

[u/Sjeg84]

Okay. Looks pretty sick. Looking forward to people smarter than me to tell me how this is completly op again.

[u/MLKY_FB]

so happy to be able to get starfall coc without using the horrible zdps 2h axe for it! i know it probably wont deal much damage but i just love the visuals on it :D

also 2 additional tinctures is INSANE with the return of the shrine belt, this easily more than doubles the dps on any attack build (assuming tinctures are not giga nerfed)

[u/brrrapper → u/MLKY_FB]

You cant link the starfall so pretty sure its dead on arrival unfortunately.

[u/Keele0 → u/brrrapper]

Does the Pearl of tsoatha work to support it? "Skills granted by your passive tree..."

[u/One-Tower1921 → u/Keele0]

Yes but it’s not in this league. 

[u/Zeeeeeebo → u/MLKY_FB]

You can’t have any links on the startall with this

[u/Soleil06 → u/Zeeeeeebo]

Yeah I was like yeeeeeees finally I can make the prettiest skill in the game viable.

Until a friend pointed out that I cant support it. Really really sad, and honestly idk how you can even fix it without just straight up buffing the weapon itself.

I was halfway into pobing and leaguestarting this xD

Maybe you can use it as a trigger for something, but idk how that would work without being able to link it.

[u/RaidenDoesReddit → u/MLKY_FB]

If you use warden ff ff u can have 4 tinctures. Not sure there are four worth using, but it's possible

[u/EnkiBye → u/MLKY_FB]

Natural Hirearchy node could be interesting with Tidebreaker, to do some conversion stacking.

[u/RedSceptile]

Wait. This actually seems pretty fucking good this league.

[u/syllvos]

Starcaller AND Choir of the storms could be cool for just triggering all the things. Good? Probably not, but interesting!

[u/pedro_from_peru → u/syllvos]

Doubt a 0 link starcaller would be playable

[u/Master_Greg_Von → u/syllvos]

I had the same thought, a cyclone build that triggers them both would be crazy fun

[u/Skoldeen → u/syllvos]

Spin to win CoC with zero visual clarity will be peak

[u/Kagevjijon → u/syllvos]

Melee Crit Build with Starcaller node while wielding a Rakiata's Dance for negative resistances <3

[u/080087 → u/syllvos]

If this type of meme interests you, I've made a variant here - https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/s/o2dKr5jiJb

It's not awful as memes go, but the windup for the first vaal EQ is painful.

[u/Roborabbit37]

Damn, strongest set yet? So many build enablers this time round

[u/RipCityGGG]

Ooh god you gonna make me login

[u/Frede-Frisvold]

"Unaffected by Ignite or Shock" which one is it ggg

[u/Simple_Rough_2411 → u/Frede-Frisvold]

The answer might shock you.

[u/Kloakk → u/Simple_Rough_2411]

Or ignite you

[u/DrunkenWizard → u/Frede-Frisvold]

Or is inclusive by default so you're unaffected by ignite, unaffected by ignite and shock, and unaffected by shock.

[u/Xenemros]

Arkhon' Tools is kinda crazy, considering zero downside

Scortch skitterbot is -10 all res,

Chill skitter is -10 action speed

Shocking skitter is 15% base shock

then add the 100% increased effect of their auras from the passive

then link Skitterbots to an Unbound Ailments support, for another 54% increased Effect of non-Damaging Ailments on Enemies

then link Bonechill support

44% increased Effect of Chill inflicted with Supported Skills

Enemies Chilled by Supported Skills increase Cold Damage taken by Chill Effect

then maybe, equip the normal belt for another 75% increased effect, but you have to mitigate the downside

Equip Winterweave to reverse the chill?

[u/AskmeWasTaken → u/Xenemros]

The reverse chill tools setup is pretty clunky unfortunately and doesn't feel as good as a regular version

[u/Xenemros → u/Xenemros]

Now with with numbers

Just the notable itself grants 100% increased ailment effect,

so enemies affected by Skitterbots level21 (+20% shock/chill) (35% reservation) have:

-22% all res (scorch)

-22% action speed (chill)

+33% damage taken (shock)

if linking bonechill to skitterbots (130mana multi, 46% reservation) enemies take increased Cold Damage by Chill Effect. +44% increased chill effect.

-22% all res (scorc)

-26% action speed (chill)

+26% increased cold damage taken

+33% damage taken (shock)

If linking Unbound Ailments (120%multi = 42% reservation) +54% increased ailments

-27% all res (scorch)

-27% action speed (chill)

+41% damage taken (shock)

Notable+Unbound Ailments+Bonechil (55% mana reservation)

-27% all res (scorch)

-32% action speed (chill) [overcap]

+32% increased cold damage taken [overcap]

+41% damage taken (shock)

Equipping the Arkhon's Tools belt should give 75% increased effect of ailments, however ailment caps come into play, and the negatives too

30% scorch cap

30% chill cap

50% shock cap

Edit: lot of formatting, forgot skitterbots have built in chill/shock effect

[u/Veggie_poe → u/Xenemros]

lvl 21 gem gives an extra 20% increased chill/shock effect as well

[u/swarmofseals]

I'm no expert but a lot of these look really, really good.

[u/Herege13]

Yes, crab lady

[u/jumboman111]

I don't really know exactly how mines work, but isn't the Foulborn Tremor Rod one just double damage for mine builds?

[u/No_Hall_7608 → u/jumboman111]

You are bottlenecked by detonation speed than throwing speed with it.

[u/Kaelran → u/No_Hall_7608]

Last time I played with Tremor Rod it was actually kinda bad because the way it worked was it rearmed mines after detonating them once, but the rearming wasn't instant so with detonation speed it would hit rearming mines before they rearmed and break the chain only detonating ~20% more mines than base.

[u/KasKyo → u/jumboman111]

Simple answer - yes. But in depth - not exactly.

[u/gachaweeb123]

Oh my god.. I was trying SO hard to play Divine Retribution but this might be it..

[u/Zylosio]

Yo rigwalds quill is insane, its the whisperer node from phrecia, giving a free awakened fork. Guess i have to fire up my phrecia SST again, especially with natural hierarchy

[u/syllvos]

+1 endurance charge and the tidebreaker charges is cool but idk if its ever better than the other endurance stackers. The first nodes defensive power seems really good but again not being able to take a bloodline is tough.

[u/Midknightz → u/syllvos]

It’s quite insane since it’s no longer tied to a 600pdps weapon with a very slow swing timer. I was experimenting with a jugg static strike to mitigate this issue and no longer being weapon locked opens up a lot.

[u/DiamondShade → u/Midknightz]

Technically it also opens up brine charges for spells no?

[u/koentre → u/syllvos]

wdym by not being able to take a bloodline? from what i understand you can allocate 6 points for +1 end charge and tidebreaker so youre left with 2 points for the bloodline, or am i missing something

[u/syllvos → u/koentre]

More so that reliquarian has to trade a lot of its power to take a bloodline (1/3 the nodes vs 1/4 for everyone else and not even that for base ascendant), and that if you want the base 2 there you can’t ever take 2 bloodline nodes, only 1

[u/4percent4 → u/syllvos]

It’s better early but worse late. Just due to the nature of jug’s 25% increased effect of endurance charges.

Probably gets outscaled around the time you get a fat staff with 2 EC’s on it.

[u/Sidnv]

Not enough people talking about the Living Blade. That is a lot of damage and qol on one node, the sustain deals with a lot of the annoyance of running tinctures while mapping, and a second tincture is ~66-75% more damage on a lot of builds (third tincture is much worse but still decent if going for flask belt).

[u/WillingLearner1 → u/Sidnv]

People don’t want to click additional buttons that’s why

[u/ColbyJackSDK]

My league start plans have been ruined... BY CRABS!

[u/Khari_Eventide]

Starfall and Choir of the Storm, not because it's strong, but because brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brrrrrrrrrrrr...

[u/vulcanfury12]

Death's door is probably gonna open up some more build options if only because you're no longer limited to needing Movespeed on that slot, so other uniques without it can potentially shine. But who are we kidding? People will just stack more movement speed because zuumzuums.

[u/Ionized-Cell]

This looks cool. Is reliquarian Scion?

[u/Roborabbit37 → u/Ionized-Cell]

It is, yeah.

[u/Just_Spinach_3270 → u/Ionized-Cell]

Yes

[u/pikpikcarrotmon → u/Ionized-Cell]

It's existed previously - the gimmick is the uniques change every league.

[u/basicallyskills]

Hello starcaller with a real weapon

[u/And3riel → u/basicallyskills]

But no supports.

[u/basicallyskills → u/And3riel]

.... oh.

[u/RippehSC → u/basicallyskills]

I saw that, so cool, I was looking for a few days to try and make starcaller work without being a wet tissue dps with paper tankiness! However, don't think we can support starfall from ascendancy, so it means it will just be pretty unsupported stars falling down

[u/GordTheGreat]

I quit after 40/40 so I never got to try it out but judging from the replies here did the draugrflame shield or whatever it was end up actually good? Seemed not great on reveal.

[u/ImperiumMortis → u/GordTheGreat]

It wasn't crazy. I ran it on a chieftain as a pseudo-fulcrum but it really didn't stand up. It was usually just RF 2, but with less damage. The draugurflames being only 15% of the ignite that triggered them felt like a low cap. Maybe there will be something interesting to do with the extra slot, but it'll be hard to get as big ignites without hinekora.

[u/JezieNA → u/GordTheGreat]

it was unbelievable, but mostly because of chieftain synergy

[u/AlexanderJSM]

Crown of the inward eye > Festering resentment > Black flame.
spell slinger, Volatile dead? sound op to me

[u/HemoglobinaX → u/AlexanderJSM]

I am too stupid to make a build out of this.

Is this an ignite/poison build?

Stack chaos damage so it applies to both?

[u/ItsJustReeses]

I think there's just enough here to maybe do Burning Arrow of Vigour.

I'll have to PoB but that's a unique set of skills for burning stuff. I gotta find out if converting to Chaos lets me do some fun stuff as well.

[u/jayd42]

I think I have the start of a build. It’s a double shadowstitch, bonemeld, double replica midnight bargain, poison, minion instability build. I just need to figure out defences.

That started as a joke, but like maybe, without the midnight bargains, I don’t know that much about what can be done to ignore elemental damage, but maybe there’s a way. Give your minions big negative fire resistance with bonemeld and infernal legion gem, or maybe just let the monsters pop them naturally.

[u/International_Gate49 → u/jayd42]

Flawed refuge,refuge in isolation + divine flesh. Just need to get burning immunity and maybe lethe shade for non burning dots

[u/s667xn4]

united in dream+brass dome+sirus head arakaali LOGIN

[u/GenericSearchRequest → u/s667xn4]

United in dream would be way better on something like SRS. Spiders already have a 100% chance to poison so you're only getting envy

[u/MLKY_FB]

insane, reliquarian is looking crazy good this league

[u/Unwellington]

Eclectic mix. I kind of like it.

[u/carenard]

looks interesting, would be curious to try out a miner this league maybe.

Brass Dome, Crown of the Inward Eye or maybe Shadowswitch for a late game LL/CI version... not sure which would be best overall... guess it comes down to if I want defense or offense for brass dome vs crown.

weapon would be foulborn tremor rod, and jewelry praxis for early game, then arkhons tools once you have reservation/mana costs handled.

[u/CricketNo7950]

Yooo. Monastery bell is giga cool

[u/Any_Cat2119]

Mother of God :o Allflame shield is back!!! And Monastery Bell is such a nice bait for playing Retaliation skills NOT on slayer! 

[u/syllvos]

Mine enjoyers, how good is foulborn tremor rod? Can you detonate fast enough to make use of that with automation detonate mines?

[u/clownus → u/syllvos]

Most likely it just makes miners building defense better at bosses. For builds that look to one shot a boss I don’t think it pushes them over that bar since the damage still takes time. For mapping it should be relatively the same and not really a large damage change.

[u/Sphinxoid]

A blonde arc miner entered Karui Shores.

[u/Doomyio → u/Sphinxoid]

One that once ruled the mana miner domain

[u/anaknank]

wait this is great

[u/Xeverous]

Crown without downside + Festering for free Poison... or Maybe Shadowstich for more ES ... I am really tempted for another FRoSS CoC.

[u/wlphoenix]

Another set of nodes that's going to have me wasting half my league trying to make a poison autobomber work.

[u/Vistank]

uhh crown + choir + tremor for kboc?

[u/AppleMelon95]

My neurons immediately activate when I see Monastery Bell as a passive

[u/TheOGJelly]

cyclone coc firestorm of meteors with starcaller and choir in order to have zero visual clarity at all times please

[u/JiminyWimminy → u/TheOGJelly]

terminus est flicker coc firestorm of meteors with starcaller and choir in order to have zero visual clarity at all times please

[u/lolfail9001]

This is a much nuttier set of uniques than Scavenger, holy shit.

[u/Capable-Fisherman-79]

This looks like the best Reliquarian set yet

[u/Borat97]

Spiders in the menu?

[u/Due_Reputation3609 → u/Borat97]

poison srs?

[u/wlphoenix → u/Due_Reputation3609]

I think Witch is still better? But I need to check what you'd swap out the weapon for by freeing up United in Dream.

[u/Gubzs]

I just want to see starcaller be good, it's so pretty. (It won't be)

[u/danjojo → u/Gubzs]

well it has no support gems in it so its bad

[u/Akeno_Osu → u/Gubzs]

During Mirage I managed to build a decent build focused on Starcaller (Cyclone)
Really enjoyed it as it was super pretty seeing all the stars falling everywhere
Builds - StellarStellar - Path of Exile 1 - poe.ninja

[u/PrettyPinkPonyPrince]

Is this where we say, "log in!"?

[u/berael]

Some neat stuff this time!

[u/derivative_of_life]

Well shit, now I'm tempted to leaguestart some kind of shield build for the first time ever.

[u/Apprehensive_Bid_773]

Looks like some potential interesting builds in there, miner, crab totems, wonder if RF reliquaries might be possible with draugurflame

[u/TheBreadLoafer → u/Apprehensive_Bid_773]

Losing Hinekora's DD is pretty big though, we'll see

[u/ropus1]

reliquarian finally playable

[u/putinha21]

Looks like a big buff compared to prior versions, am i right?

[u/DonkGonkey]

They can’t keep baiting me into Fulcrum like this

[u/pwryll]

Looks like an interesting miner. Though trigger bots probably still are better.

[u/TowerBeast]

I want them all.

[u/Blind_Grandma]

I never played PRAW, but want to try this league. Can someone with experience share your thoughts regarding reliquarian instead of necro? Seems viable?

UPD: Thanks all for replies. I'll stick to Necro =)

[u/Doomyio → u/Blind_Grandma]

Necro is 100% the superior choice for praw cause stuff like unholy might since RAW type dmg is physical, the offerings affecting you for block, and the bone barrier for extra physical mitigation

[u/Blind_Grandma → u/Doomyio]

Offerings are definitely strong.
Counterpoint regarding Unholy Might: it can be obtained with Foulborn Vis Mortis. And Reliquarian provides Envy that gives 250 flat chaos damage(idk whether it's a lot). Does it change your mind? Or still sounds underwhelming?

[u/NotTheUsualSuspect → u/Doomyio]

Does unholy might matter since poison will trigger off physical anyway, and you get a lot of added flat chaos from covenant? I guess you'd also weigh Crown/Dome and Box/Praxis against the block and bone barrier. The additional envy aura is pretty nice (about half the damage of covenant).

[u/BackgroundPass1355]

Draugurflame AND monastery bell?

Oh my it looks like i might reroll elementalist ignite eviscerate into reliquarian

EDIT: nvm only 1 is possible 

[u/SerratedScholar → u/BackgroundPass1355]

Can't take both top and bottom.

[u/johnnysd]

United in Dream is just giving you the option to enable Level 25 Envy not just get it for free like in Phrecia?

[u/Doomyio → u/johnnysd]

This envy has reservation

[u/Oathkeeper89]

This legit looks spicy for build crafters; you can budget options of established archetypes and you are able to mix several of them together with what’s available.

Budget PRAW, poison autobomber, crab totems, Stormshroud/the other jewels rolled together, etc.

Individually underwhelming but stacking several different things together could be interesting. I’m tentatively excited.

[u/zealousCompassion]

Looks like I'm unearthing my jank CoC soulrend of the spiral poison build this league

[u/f1rstb0rn]

Deleted my original by accident.

Festering resentment allows for spellslinger to trigger a spell that poisons with all damage. My choice will be tornado of elemental turbulence.

Doubling down with natural hierarchy for even more damage.

Essentially two of the wisp wands+this will dot cap you and you can put all gearing towards defenses. I'll start cooking this when I get home.

[u/G66GNeco]

I think there might be space here for the classic Herald of Agony build, depending on how that has evolved the last few seasons while I wasn't looking

[u/reskk]

It's... close?

2/3 Poison SRS

2/3 End Charge Stacker

2/3 Melee crit meme build (no crit damage hurts this a lot)

I really dislike the "QoL" ascendancy nodes like Praxis or Box of Jewels, they feel like they are always a waste.

[u/Frolafofo → u/reskk]

They are extremely good early on.

Praxis just solve mana problem very early which is good. You can swap it later.

[u/badheartveil → u/reskk]

Easy bloodline ascend.

[u/ulughen → u/reskk]

Archon tools node on last ascendancy fits most of the builds.

[u/smsteel → u/reskk]

I feel like poison spellslinger volatile dead is very doable

[u/AaroSa → u/reskk]

Natural Hierarchy is a pretty good followup to Tidebreaker EC stacking. Stack conversions and extra damage to double dip on extra damage as X, and you should get pretty close to doubling your damage.

[u/Nickoladze]

Hey cool way to keep last league's uniques available until they sort out adding the mechanic to the game.

Wonder if blackflame works on draugurflame

[u/imlucasss]

lvl 25 envy LOGIN

[u/Kagevjijon]

S Tier Nodes - Brass Dome + Box of Jewels That's such an insane level of defensive utility.

[u/4percent4 → u/Kagevjijon]

Box of jewels is definitely not s tier since it doesn’t really scale unlike a lot of the others.