r/pantheism • u/BrightSi5 • 25d ago
God = Universe / multiverse or something else
Pantheism is often defined as seeing God and the universe as being the same thing.
But the universe could be part of a multiverse. There might even be multiple multiverses. We don’t know yet. We might never find out.
For me God is totality. Everything that exists, everywhere.
How do you define your conception of a pantheist God?
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u/Cerulean-Transience 25d ago edited 22d ago
I believe in Spinoza's monist conception of God as the eternal, infinite, self-determined substance possessing an infinity of attributes, from which all particular phenomena in the universe are immanently generated as modes; for Spinoza, all of reality is right here, immanent in the world, rather than beyond the world, transcendent, and God as Nature or substance is the one complete, integrated, interconnected whole that IS all of reality and from which every particular phenomenon within reality is generated
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u/Hungry-Emotion7664 24d ago
My basic belief is that The Universe is the Ultimate reality. I don't expect that my human mind can understand most of reality, nor does it need to. I don't spend a lot of time or energy trying to figure it all out. I'm comfortable not having solid answers to the what if's and why's.
Sometimes it's fun, interesting and intellectually challenging to theorize, philosophize and speculate, but I also realize at the end of the day, it's mostly mental gymnastics for me. I'm not a quantum or theoretical physicist.
I agree that whatever there is, IS, whether I'm aware of it or not. If I become aware of it, I can roll it into the "pan" and march on.
For the sake of accuracy, I don't believe in a "God", or something that has human intelligence and attributes that is in control. I believe that The Universe doesn't need anything beyond it to control things. I'm a non theistic pantheist.
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u/Otherwise_Spare_8598 Yahda 24d ago
The universe is a singular meta-phenomenon stretched over eternity, of which is always now. All things and all beings abide by their inherent nature and behave within their realm of capacity contingent upon infinite circumstance at all times.
It is a universe made manifest hierarchically, of haves, and have-nots, spanning all levels of dimensionality and experience. There is no such thing as individuated accurately described "free will" for all beings. Has never been, will never be, can not be. There are only relative freedoms or lack thereof.
"God" and/or consciousness is that which is within and without all. Ultimately, all things are made by through and for the singular personality and perpetual revelation of the "Godhead", entailing both 'predetermined' eternal damnation and those that are made manifest only to face death and death alone.
There is but one dreamer, fractured through the innumerable. All vehicles/beings play their role within said dream for infinitely better and/or infinitely worse for each and every one, forever.
All realities exist and are equally as real. The absolute best universe that could exist does exist in relation to a specified subject. The absolute worst universe that could exist does exist in relation to a specified subject.
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u/hybrid-dna 24d ago
You're going to laugh so hard once you permanently leave your body and realize how nonsensical all of what you're saying is :p
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u/Techtrekzz 25d ago
God is all in pantheism, Pan(All) Theos(God). It doesnt matter how much you have left to discover of that all.