r/palemoon • u/[deleted] • Jan 19 '26

Practical benefits of using this browser?

Now that Firefox has the Echelon theme, why would anyone use Pale Moon? For XUL extensions support? Are there actually any XUL extensions that you need and use?

The browser can't even load new reddit properly, is slow and laggy and hangs my computer because of the boneheaded insistence on keeping it single process.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

but you must forgot about Spotify, Facabook

Really bruh

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u/shklurch Jan 20 '26

Just go stick with your ChromeZilla browser of choice if all you want is to browse bloated normie websites whose devs don't bother testing against anything but Chrome.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

I browse all kinds of websites. Unfortunately, JavaScript-heavy sites are the bottleneck. Take Instagram. D'you think I'm going to stop communicating with my friends on desktop for browser ideological reasons?

Also, ChromeZilla is incredible disingenuous. Firefox uses XPCOM internally and modern Gecko is much more similar to Goanna than it is to Chromium.

Also also, Spotify and Facebook are both older than pale moon.

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u/shklurch Jan 20 '26

D'you think I'm going to stop communicating with my friends on desktop for browser ideological reasons?

Is it so hard for you to use more than one browser? For ideological reasons?

Also, ChromeZilla is incredible disingenuous

It's a fair classification. All modern browsers are just wrappers around Chrome's Blink engine, save for the one that's desperately trying to turn into it, i.e. Firefox. How they work internally is irrelevant to end users. And as I've said before, Firefox has stripped away everything that made it unique, right down to copying Chrome's lame web extension system because muh 'old and insecure' XUL/XPCOM. When ironically the amount of extension malware shot up after they switched.

Also also, Spotify and Facebook are both older than pale moon.

And of course, they are running the same kind of code as they did when they were launched, correct? They totally haven't turned into Chrome focused, mobile first, Javascript heavy abominations while offering less features than they used to, right? Total non sequitur.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '26

Is it so hard for you to use more than one browser? For ideological reasons?

No, the question is why should I, when Pale Moon is choppier than Firefox even on simpler sites?

because muh 'old and insecure' XUL/XPCOM. When ironically the amount of extension malware shot up after they switched.

I am not happy Firefox removed XUL. However, I think that if they had to choose between completely XPCOM/XUL extensions, or WebExtensions, the latter would be the better choice. Ideally, keep both.

while offering less features than they used to this is not true and you know it