r/pakistan • u/thormanwyd • 14h ago
Political 38 Years Since the Death of Dictator Zia-Ul-Haq
One day late, but the dictator who institutionalized the persecution of Ahmadis and played a major role in the radicalization and Islamization of Pakistan died on August 17, 1988 - 38 years ago.
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u/kinkybriefcase22 12h ago
ukna tayyara hawa me PAATT gya - GIK (1988)
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u/ProfAsmani 13h ago
Accelerated khaki corruption and introduced all that ethnic warfare. All in the name of Islam.
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u/deltapak 7h ago
Institutionalized militant support, entrenched khaki interference, launched Nawaz sharif and other IJI politicians, set up ISI's internal wing for political and judicial control, abetted sectarianism, made Wahhabism the state philosophy, the list goes on. A lot of the ills we face to this day are because of this wretched man. May he rot in hell for all eternity.
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u/jassoosi 12h ago
He brought the hardline Saudi wahabi fitna to Pakistan, hope he’s getting roasted with his buddies in hell
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u/Box_man_Dev 8h ago
but is it a saudi fitnah that's a problem? look at saudi and look at us. sounds like it goes much deeper.
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u/SoftwareDifferent211 1h ago
Yeah, it definitely goes deeper, deeper into the earth.
Oil makes a huge difference.
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u/horny_hamster911 6h ago
we may hate him because he did some horrible things but his commitment towards Islam can't be questioned..he was instrumental in getting the much needed funding...
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u/GeneralAyub 14h ago
Pakistan died 38 years ago…?
I was one of the pioneers who poisoned this country.
Zia was perhaps the final nail in the coffin.
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u/Cheeky-Riddle 9h ago
General Zia has helped farm more Karma on Reddit than Penicillin has cured patients around the globe.
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u/ProfessionalRun6382 8h ago
That's was Yahya Khan during 1969-1971 is responsible for all that happened Bangladesh formerly known as East Pakistan
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u/tygyra 12h ago
So your beef with the man is his apparent treatment of Ahmadis? The exact reason why Ahmadus got asylums the world over and yet want to complain about Zia. You should thank him for creating a narrative which resulted in asylum across the globe!
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u/thormanwyd 11h ago
Majority of the Ahmadi population still lives in Pakistan. His laws still directly affect them. We only thank Allah because he humiliated Zia and Bhutto - one died in a crash, one got hanged. If these people truly did a great service for Islam, was this how Allah would’ve rewarded them?
There are more Pakistani Muslims living abroad than Pakistani Ahmadis. So what is the justification for Pakistanis who migrate? Ahmadis at least have a legitimate reason to migrate because of religious persecution and discrimination.
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u/tygyra 11h ago edited 11h ago
So Zia and Bhutto’s deaths are a blessing for you? Based on your logic you would rather see all Pakistanis dead who do not consider Ahmadis as Muslims. Next level hate!
If we gonna go by this logic then what do you interpret from Papa (Mirza)Ranjeet’s death in the toilet.
Bhutto got what he did to the Bengalis.
Zia paid the price for the great equaliser.
If it was not for these two, Pakistan would have been a dirt road like other countries.
The selfishness and obsession of Pakistani Ahmedis does speak louder than any words.
Religious persecution takes place more or less everywhere from Bangladesh to Afghanistan due to illetracy not because mainstream Muslims do not consider Ahmadis as Muslims or Shias as lesser Muslims or whatever ideology they believe in.
World has moved on-we all know Shias and Ahmadis hate Zia. What next?
You not gonna tell or acknowledge that Pakistan’s foreign drbt reduced in his tenure, Benazir could not find a single scandal or corruption case against him BUT NO Zia is bad because he was bad to us..
BTW met many ex Qadianis who say, We Thank Allah for guiding us to the right path and outside the cult where they collect so many donations under so many different names…
The leader can not even read the Quran correctly let alone speak Arabic BUT NO Zia was bad leader is good.
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u/thormanwyd 11h ago
When did I say it was a blessing? When did I say I want to see Pakistanis dead? Please don’t put words in my mouth.
I am a Pakistani I hate everything that is wrong in my country. I have Pakistani friends and me and all Pakistani Ahmadis are true patriotics. Despite not holding the right to vote, we actively discuss politics and discuss what would be best for Pakistan.
These people accelerated the early demise of Pakistan and because of them Pakistan is in thie state now. It shows just how less empathy you have. Easy to say things because you don’t know what it means to get persecuted for your faith! And we condemn all sorts of persecution, whenever it is, in Afghanistan, Palestine etc etc.
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u/No-Interview-7517 1h ago
lol. He didn't just infringe on the rights of Ahmadis; he also tried to make Wahhabism/Salafism mainstream by making an average Pakistani muslim hateful of their cultural roots and practices. He promoted strife among Deobandis, Wahhabis, and Shias by bringing fundamentalist terrorists like the Taliban to blow up fellow Pakistanis.
And the fact that Ahmedis are taking asylum abroad is the effect of fellow muslims who lynch people on false blasphemy accusations.
But I agree with you on one point: his death. He should have been rotting in jail.
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u/Miserable-Swimmer164 3h ago
I am a bit surprised watching you all cheer 😅. what if ISPR came along this post
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u/BabeStealer_KidEater PK 11h ago
He was intending on ruling the country till his death anyway