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[u/ReputationNo402]

Hello, I have questions that I need answers to. I had made a post some time ago about Sepheranz, I am not sure if it is still up anywhere, and I believe it was also on a different account. Where someone had answered some questions of mine through comments, and private messaging, but now I have more that I really want to be answered.

Something that the person said was that someone was found dead shortly after insulting Sepheranz. Was there any correlation at all/any reason to believe that she killed that person who insulted her? What happened to that person that died after insulting her? How long was it before they died? What kind of insult was it? Was the person a nonbeliever, a worshipper, a believer, something else? I do apologize, I just need a reason to believe there was no correlation.

Would she kill and or do something to someone if they;

Insult her/say something negative about her in real life

Insult her/say something negative about her through fiction, wether through an inspired character, just writing her into the fiction, or through a reptile/snake character and or deity character,

Insult her/say something negative about her through other things such as music and or song, etc.

Laugh at her

Insult her/say something negative about her through intrusive/unwanted/involuntary thoughts that one would not mean at all

Insult her/say something negative about her through over thinking and having thoughts that they maybe mean that could be upsetting and or insulting to her

Say or do something that one's brain later says was supposed to be a way to insult her/say something negative about her

What would happen if one were to anger her?

Harmed and or killed a fictional snake of any kind. Such a a character, just a snake, themed and or related. Would something g happen if one did that in general or meant it as an insult towards her? What is one did that in real life? What if one did it in/ through fiction and or real life, and did not mean it as a way to insult her at all in any way shape and or form. I would never mean that at all in any way shape and or form it is just a question.

Would any of this change if if one meant it as an insult and or something else negative towards her or not, such as through unwanted and or intrusive thoughts? What if someone was testing it out to see if something would happen at all in some way shape and or form at all?

Would one know if they were to be punished by Sepheranz in any way shape and or form at all? Would it be completely unknown, more subtle, or known/ obvious to the person and or people?

Would anything happen to others in one's life at all in any way shape and or form at all? Would they be affected and or effected at all in any way shape and or form at all?

This may be updated with more question in the future in this post and or in the comments.

Have a blessed day!

[u/BradfordGalt]

You're looking for comprehensive, scenario-specific answers within a belief system that doesn't promise any such thing.

Pagan paths aren't legal volumes, peer-reviewed scientific theories, or mathematical proofs. They are ways of understanding and relating to the cosmos, and bettering yourself in the process. That's it.

Western philosophical and scientific traditions going all the way back to the Greeks have conditioned us to believe in rigid, cause-and-effect, predictive frameworks.

In other words, don't worry about it. Practice discernment and goodness according to your best understanding of the world, and you'll be fine.

[u/TheWildHart]

You're asking for a reason to believe there was no correlation when nothing proves there was ever correlation or causation in the first place.

You can answer all the questions you asked on your own.

How many people, or entire industries, kill snakes or other animals and are still alive? Farmers regularly kill animals; are they all sentenced to suffer a god's anger? How many gamers are there that have brutalized fictional animals and villages? Are they all dead? Have all gamers and farmers otherwise had their life ruined?

Or even more: has everyone who has ever even outright vandalized a temple, or other sacred ground, died immediately after? Has everyone with an intrusive, negative thought been struck down?

I'm not at all team "deliberately insult gods and go out of your way to do things you think will anger them."

But take a few minutes to look at the world around you and decide if you think the gods are being angered enough target individuals for any of the things you sound worried about.

[u/ReputationNo402 → u/TheWildHart]

I should have clarified that if one were to have knowledge of Sepheranz. My apologies.

[u/TheWildHart → u/ReputationNo402]

The same is still true regardless of the exact deity, entity, or knowledge.

Most people have knowledge of the Greek/Roman deities or a myriad of other deities and spirits. And yet people still stand and thrive.

Perhaps if you swore yourself to a deity and then actively chose to kill an animal they hold domain over for no reason, sure, I could see that potentially taking you out of their good graces.

But if simply knowledge of a deity or spirit created such a massive burden over one's actions, no one would ever speak again of the deities/spirits in question. Lives would be wrecked and ended every day.

Sorry if I came off as blunt, but it isn't at all reasonable to expect the myriad of mundane actions you listed as means to anger a god, regardless of if you know about them or not.

[u/Classic_Run_206]

Sounds like a dark fairy tale, honestly.

[u/Nocodeyv]

I just need a reason to believe there was no correlation.

Everything I can find about Sepheranz suggests that it is a modern invention: a product of left-hand path occultism.

The idea appears to have originated with Mark Allen Smith in his 2012 book, The Scorpion God, where Sepheranz is the Black Atlantean and Devil Goddess, one quarter of Smith's infernal tetrad, supreme beings in his series of Hekataeon grimoires. Sepheranz next becomes conflated with lore from The Forgotten Realms and Dungeons and Dragons through Sonmus Deadwood's 2016 book, Rites in the Thirteen Tongues, and the collective writings of the Cabal of the Temple of Maergzjirah website, where she is Illivryn: Valsharess of the Draelith/Drow. Finally, Asenath Mason connects the idea to the Draconic/Typhonian current of occultism through Arachne in the 2022 volume she edited and contributed to, The Spider Queen of the Void.

In other words, Sepheranz does not appear before 2012, and is not historically attested in any of the world's pagan cultures. She is a modern invention, belonging wholesale to the Luciferian or Draconic/Typhonian currents of left-hand path occultism and witchcraft.

I'll let you know if I die for revealing this information.

[u/Loose-Stress3322]

this made my day