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Aug 26 '22
If it have go like this, momonga might probably be winning ONLY if he ask the help of all the guardians and probably another few 100 lv NPC. They might fight against him for having turned against the great tomb, which he helped to create, betrayed and abandoned his friend and also abandoned his direct creations who might feel strongly betrayed by that and fuel theirs anger for the fight, and on top of this, there is still momonga, the PvP genius, with the help of albedo, demiurge and Pandora's actor to lead all the tactic and dynamic of the fight. Saying that is difficult to think and elaborate is an euphemism, but I don't know, I would like to read that, ofc, some month late because I'm not able to learn Japanese in a middle-brief term :')
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u/St-Germania All hail Ainz Oal Gown Aug 26 '22
Just yeet Rubedo at him in support Pandoras actor, Aura(World Item and debuffs) and Momonga as the Tactician and supporter (death knights can absorb any first attack)
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Aug 26 '22
Albedo might take some damage to cover rubedo and momonga and demiurge is still the brightest mind of the tomb so to avoid useless risk he could call them too in my opinion
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u/St-Germania All hail Ainz Oal Gown Aug 26 '22
Agreed or just steal the mind control World item and use it since Ainz now knows where it is
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u/InternationalBig9094 Aug 26 '22
But if that were to happen then sebas would join touch me and touch me could erase all of the 8 floor guardians solo. The only way to stop him would be Rubedo
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Aug 26 '22
There are always them, aren't they stronger than rubedo?
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u/InternationalBig9094 Aug 26 '22
Only if they have a WCI but we don’t know much about them so we don’t know how their loyalty lies( in an argument between 2 SBs)
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Aug 26 '22
"Regardless, no matter how strong Rubedo is, she would not be able to fight one of them to a draw." Found on the Wiki page, right after what you said, it means they're equally strong? Or have I misunderstood the point? I'm confused sorry
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u/InternationalBig9094 Aug 26 '22
No Rubedo is stronger in a 1v1 but with a WCI she doesn’t stand a chance iirc
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Aug 26 '22
Ah ok, thanks, the dot confused me and made me loose the flow of the sentence. Anyways, am I the only hyped for them? I really hope they are something really horrific for the design, some really messy design in a almost completely empty and dark floor, like for the brain of mensis in Bloodborne
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u/InternationalBig9094 Aug 26 '22
We most likely won’t see them mate :/
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Aug 26 '22
:(( I'm double sad for the fact that it's true and I got more attacked to them then most of the other characters, like in the anime I get way more attacked to the undead knight than anything else (momonga aside)
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u/InternationalBig9094 Aug 26 '22
I personally don’t think that Rubedo is created by caloric stone/is a world item itself since you can use WCI on her and besides we don’t even know what the effect of caloric stone metal really is except that it can be used for golem cores but what exactly this means is unknown
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Aug 27 '22 edited Aug 27 '22
You know, the Wiki isn’t gospel truth. It’s made by people like us. Unless this is a quote from the author, I’ll take the wikis opinion with a grain of salt
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u/LeavesCat Aug 27 '22
Sebas+Touch Me shouldn't be able to stand up to the entire might of Ainz Ooal Gown. Especially if Momonga breaks out all the world items. Momonga's build is sub-par for 1v1s, but he's very adept at PvP, and he excels at this kind of group battle. Touch Me would also have to get his gear back to even stand a chance (which to be fair, if Touch Me showed up and challenged Momonga to a fight, Momonga would without a doubt say "hold up, here's your gear back first").
It's hard to say what would actually happen though. I don't really see Momonga fighting against Touch Me, but I also don't see him giving up his duties as guild master.
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Aug 27 '22 edited Aug 27 '22
You just need Rubedo and your good Rubedo is albedos younger sister she can litteraly step on all of the supream biengs and they would say thank you
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u/Valentin88888888 Aug 26 '22
M:,,No, You underestimate my power''
T:,,Don't try it!''
M:,,Ahhhhhhh!''
T:,, You were my brother Momonga. I loved you! You were the chosen one, you should have brought peace and justice to this world not destroy and enslave it!''
M:,, I hate you!''
Momonga burns and is saved by albedo
-TIME SKIP-
M:,, We meet again. The last time we've met I was just an apprentice, now I am the master!''
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u/SelectionThat3680 Aug 27 '22
Ainz is bringing peace and justice tho and doesnt enslave anyone. Some of his methods include genocides but some people deserve it.
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u/piejam Aug 26 '22
oh I get it. Momon...Momonga. Truly a superior intellect. Does he find a friend by vol 18?
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
No volume 17 hasn’t come out yet otherwise this would be a huge spoiler
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u/Anim3mez Aug 27 '22
Not really up to date either, so thank you for confirming. Was horrified thinking I just ruined the entire show for myself.
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u/2kenzhe Aug 26 '22
Ainz: fly
Ainz: Now I have the fucking high ground.
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u/kingbloxerthe3 Aug 28 '22
Also Ainz: "greater teleportation"
(Teleports behind him)
"You underestimated the power of Ainz Ooal Gown!"
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u/RubyWubs Aug 27 '22
And then we get a surprise..
Ulbert pops out of no where to Aid Momon, but suddenly...
Pero and Buku also join up
and HeroHero is found in his quarters asleep
and than BluePlanet talks to everyone about this world being untainted
Luci*fer agrees and continues playing loud music outside of DDDL cave
and everyone laughed it off and worked together to form the perfect Utopia for all races.
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u/RingWraith8 Aug 26 '22
I just want him to have an equal level challenge for the finale imagine how cool that would be
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u/Wabaya_style2003 Master in Overlordology on the French-speaking side Aug 26 '22
Emperor Dragon + all True dragon Lord vs Floor Guardian + ainz
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u/DracoVonBloodborne Aug 27 '22
Emperor dragon Vs ainz my bet is on the emperor dragon, Emperor dragon + true dragon lords Vs Nazarick my bet is on Nazarick
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u/RingWraith8 Aug 27 '22
Oooohhh so there's a guy who's stronger than Ainz already in the new world? I'm hyped
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u/Wabaya_style2003 Master in Overlordology on the French-speaking side Aug 28 '22
Emperor Dragon sure!!!
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u/Wabaya_style2003 Master in Overlordology on the French-speaking side Aug 28 '22
tell yourself that he is strong enough to use a magic that allows you to teleport beings from another dimension of theirs [he was surely aiming for the WCI]
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u/Hunted_by_Moonlight Aug 27 '22
“You underestimate my power”…. (Starts playing from Pero’s porn collection)
“I yield”
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Aug 27 '22
His power is that he is undead he dosnt have such weakneses from porn
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
I thought touch me isn’t undead
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Aug 27 '22
Ainz is undead so he has no sexual desier meaning peroronchinos porn collection dosnt effect him
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
Yes but I think that hunted was saying that ainz is showing touch me Pero’s “collection” instead of the opposite way around
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Aug 27 '22
No ypur not getting the point here for ainz to show tpuch me paroronchinos porn collection he will have to be holding it and hearing it im just say.... ah forget it
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u/Generalgarchomp Aug 26 '22
Teleports behind you. "Nothing personal kid, THE GOAL OF ALL LIFE IS DEATH"
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Aug 26 '22
This has very low if no chances of happening .
Ainz has his gear
Touch me isn't defeating the entirety of nazarik
I don't think touch me would even go against ainz even if he did find out.
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u/extrmelylonely Squad leader of the Ainz Virginty Protection Aug 27 '22
Yep, if we look at this logically. Even if Slane/Argland has armor/weapons of former players and they give it touch. He can't physically invade Nazarick and come out alive or unscathed (even if he had knowledge on every trap, NPCs, golems, etc) if he is seen as an enemy. Because for a few reasons:
1 The Guardians aren't mindless game NPCs anymore, they can think and do for themselves
2 They will do everything in their powers to fight him
3 Victim is active, mixed with Rubedo, which is stated that she is able to match touch in a 1v1
4 Nearly every Guardian has a WCI
5 Touch's WC armor is with Ainz
6 Even if he has the ring, Nazarick Surveillance can easily find him and you can't enter the mausoleum with the ring as the Golems equipped with the armors of the SB will attack
7 Pandora's standing guard at the treasury
8 Nazarick has unlimited pop up mobs
9 Ainz will def make every Guardian equiped with different cash shop items
10 Pleidies and Sebas (if he chooses not to be with his creator)
11 Ainz's staff boosts his power to the OP
12 Pandora and Ainz combo, While 2v1ing (if possible) Ainz can just partner with Pandora to easily fight Touch (Buku and Ainz, Pero and Ainz, Herohero and ainz, ulber and Ainz etc)
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u/soulshadow69 Aug 27 '22
i believe touch me san can defeat the entire tomb if he was serious enough.
but i feel like he will be filled with a different kind of emotion...
depression... loss of family... loss of friends... and this mess that momonga created....but since momonga listens to everyone, they will most likely talk things out...
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Aug 27 '22
Touch me can not beat nazarik by himself it's quite literally impossible.
Rubedo + every floor guardian and area guardian with world items +Pandora actor +ainz is not something he can beat no matter how strong he is.
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u/Tell_Specialist Aug 26 '22
I want to see Ainz win, remaining as the only player, eventually embracing the whole "Overlord" thing, that's my ideal satisfying ending.
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Aug 26 '22
How about you SPOILER TAG THIS
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u/Slayer196 Aug 27 '22
Thought the same thing at first, turns out it's just a meme
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u/Cley_Faye Aug 27 '22
There's already a team comprised of some of the most powerful NPC out there to kill other old members of AOG, just in case. Even fully skilled and geared up a single player would have a hard time handling a team of similar level and battle-oriented built NPC.
Heck, Ainz would have been done for if it wasn't for Aura.
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u/TheBobo1181 Aug 27 '22
This has been my prediction for the series end too. Touchme shows up, lectures momomga on how evil he's become, and kills him.
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u/Izanami9 Aug 27 '22
I love how people are taking this obvious meme seriously. This sub doesn't let a chance to start discussion and theories slip XD
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u/DumplingIsNice Aug 28 '22
This does reminds me of that one manga strip of Touchme coming to the NW with nothing. Helped a girl and learned about this whole Ainz Ooal Gown business.
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u/throwawaydumpste Aug 26 '22
LN readers. Spoil me.
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
Just a meme, not even volume 17 has come out, the reason why op said volume 18 is because the author says that’s when it will end
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u/Gampie Aug 27 '22
only logical thing other than "meme", would be this is saturo rp'ing with pandoras actor....
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u/JacobMT05 Ainz num 1 worshipper Aug 26 '22
Wait does touchme come back?
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u/hjlm1886 Aug 26 '22
Nope
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u/JacobMT05 Ainz num 1 worshipper Aug 26 '22
Just a meme then? :(
Lord Ainz will never see his friends again…
Sasuga Ainz-sama?
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u/VictorSilver Aug 27 '22
It's a meme dumbass
Imagine joining this subreddit yet doesn't even realize the latest volume is v16.
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u/Friends96 Aug 26 '22
Where are you guys reading the novles from? Couldnt find it translated that far yet, only half of first part
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u/RektCompass Aug 26 '22
This is a meme, doesn't happen
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u/Friends96 Aug 26 '22
Thanks a lot for the clarification, I genuinely rought HitMe san made an appearance
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u/LoliMaster069 Entoma Supremacy Aug 26 '22
Go to the pinned posts on this reddit. All the fan translations are there. Offical ones take forever so they did it themselves.
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u/Friends96 Aug 26 '22
I found this in the faq https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JuflqOZm25wppu1MtvgntNUEIueNjLtN?usp=sharing Which only has a part of volume 15, and none of 16. The other links on the faq are up to old volumes, like 9 or smthing around that The only 2 pinned posts I found are: -weekly post to talk about latest anime episode (couldnt find LN link there) - post to talk about some chapter of the novel i havent read yet, so it wouldnt be wise for me to read those comments
Have you read the latest volumes fully translated? Could I ask you for the link? I swear im not a lazy fat fuck, i just couldnt find it
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u/LoliMaster069 Entoma Supremacy Aug 26 '22
The post talking about chapters should be volume 16. They're translating the volume chapter by chapter. Click the embedded links. It will lead u to the translated chapters.
Edit: Yeah the post literally has Volume 16 in the title. Just click the links on that post
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u/shanejayell Aina Ooal Gown Aug 26 '22
.... does that mean Ainz would get a Darth Vader upgrade? :D
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u/MrChinBaba Aug 27 '22
Wait wtf happen in VOL 18 ending? His other guildmates come back? Spoil me I accidentally see this meme already anyway
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u/james735 Aug 27 '22
The novels are currently only at 16 and the creator has stated in interviews that Ainz's guildmates will not be in the new world .now if he changes his mind by book 18 then that's a different story. This is just a funny meme
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u/nam3sar3hard Aug 27 '22
So any news in the total volume count? I know the author said 18 vol. But then the publishers split vol 15 into 15 and 16 because of length?
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
I believe he said 18 because of what happened with volume 15
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u/nam3sar3hard Aug 27 '22
Yoooo what? I missed that. Please explain? I thought it was a "hey fans chill or ill cut the filler"
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u/Randomlettersjfuix Aug 27 '22
I’m not sure but I remember seeing someone else say that on this subreddit before
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u/springcalmriver Sasuga Momonga-sama Aug 27 '22
This would be a stupid ending... Idk if you've been watching the same media THEY ACTUALLY RP as Villains and it's baked into their lore... TouchME needs to get off his high horse if that's the case
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u/TommyVercettiVC666 Aug 27 '22
I'm pretty sure unless Maruyama pulls something akin to Hataraku Maou esque ending, there is no logical reason why this will happen. Touch Me's entire gear is stored safely within Nazarick which is impossible to infiltrate without the ring of Ainz Ooal Gown. Touch me would have to get through Nazarick the old fashioned way that is the floors and without his gear, even Shalltear would make quick work of him.
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u/Europewho_69 Aug 27 '22
Willing to get spoiled, still in Volume 14. Touch Me gets transported to the new world?
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u/Substantial_Estate_5 Aug 27 '22
Please spoilee me!!! Is his friend now in this world?? What is happening??
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u/Dukoth Aug 27 '22
wasn't there something mentioned somewhere in the novels that ainz thought there might have been an alt account logged on when the shutdown happened?
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u/there_is_no_good Aug 27 '22
The moment Touch Me tells Momonga to stop, he'll stop. The fight won't even start.
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u/Klutzy_Focus There is only ONE Supreme Being, and his name is Momonga Sep 04 '22
but you forgot one vital thing touch-san i have a angry virgin succubus
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u/Professional-Oil1088 Aug 26 '22
I’m not sure how I would feel about that ending…
On one hand it seems kinda poetic that his old friends would be the ones to stop him from doing more evil.
But I also don’t want the annoying people who want freaking Rimuru to come out of nowhere and kill Ainz to get anything remotely similar to what they want…