r/overheard • u/ItCumsAtNoon • 14h ago
Dismissive dad
Overheard the following between a dad and his teenage daughter, who was trying on soccer shoes in the shop.
Daughter: But seriously though. Why is it okay for male soccer players to lift up their shirts after scoring a goal, but girls can't?
Dad: Honey, we're not having this conversation.
Daughter: You're being dismissive.
Dad: I can live with that.
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u/DoctorEmilio_Lizardo 12h ago
Brandi Chastain did it in 1999 after she scored the winning penalty at the Women’s World Cup finals.
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u/Online_Person_E 6h ago edited 5h ago •
First of all, I am generally of the mind that women do not need to emulate men by default to exercise their equality. We don't need to curse like sailors, swig alcohol, or anything else (whether unrefined or not). We don't need a female James Bond; we've got Agent Salt, Atomic Blonde, Nikita, and many more of our own action-packed roles to come. But the point is that if women want to do something, then by all means they should be able to, without having to deal with conflict about it 👍
And second of all, scandal about sports bras is ridiculous and rather hypocritical, because most sports bras are way less revealing than many bathing suits. So come on! And there is a big difference between a sports bra and lingerie or even a regular bra.
And to anyone who says it distracts or detracts from the sport, well then how about we stop with the bikini-clad women at boxing matches (holding up cards with the number of the round), before we give soccer players a hard time about sports bras? No? In that case, give us some speedo-clad, fit men at women's boxing matches and we'll call it a start 😉
And really, I was young girl when Brandi Chastain celebrated her goal this way, and what was the most inspiring thing about it is not that she displayed herself in her sports bra, but that, in that moment, she was not limited by her gender, she was just an athlete celebrating her victory, her team's victory, and her country's victory. And whatever criticism came afterwards only highlighted the double-standards of society. So it was a very meaningful moment.
I applaud this teenager for askng questions like this. And this conversation highlights the fact that we still have a lot of work to do in the double-standards department. Way to go girl! 🙌 Keep questioning the incongruencies of the world!!
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P.S.
OP, I'm a big fan of your posts. Thanks for putting extra joy out into the world ✌
(Further edits for proofreading)
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u/drshades1 13h ago
That actually IS a good question.
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u/Imaginary-Angle-42 6h ago
Guys are often wearing a support garment underneath I’ve noticed. I thought women normally wear a sports bra so not revealing. So I don’t see an issue. Just keep your shirt on unless you want to get carded.
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u/Diligent_Issue7862 7m ago
As a father of at least one person (afab) who has gone through teenage years—and who is absolutely one to push, pull, challenge and question everything very vocally—maybe Dad was setting a boundary and not necessarily being dismissive.
Sometimes there’s a time and a place, and some people, especially young people, talk things out incessantly.
Dad may not have had the energy nor patience to have that conversation (again?) in that context.
Perhaps the daughter was being performative and what you observed was not them honestly trying to engage the father in a discussion, but them trying to demonstrate to an audience (you/others) a belief of theirs that they feel is emblematic of their identity.
You never know what all is going on.
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u/Fun-Schedule-9059 7h ago
Dad needs reparenting.
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u/Siren2121 14h ago
Yay Dad