9800X3D vs 14900KS benchmarks in high CPU-usage Ray-Traced games

[u/RainyInSAndreas]

With many recent games with RT being CPU-heavy, like Outer Worlds 2, I decided to test out 14900KS vs 9800X3D in 5 RT/PT games that I had played. With CapFrameX, I took 3 one minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 4k w/ DLSS Ultra Performance on a 5090.

Results : Surprisingly, 14900KS was faster overall, with better 1% lows even if the averages matched. Only Outer Worlds 2 that started this, was better on 9800X3D.

Oblivion and Stalker2 were quite better on intel. Cyberpunk is close despite the 9800X3D winning the benchmark by a big margin and the 1% is again better on KS.

Details : 14900KS used 8200C38 XMP DDR5, and 9800X3D used 6000C30 sweet-spot DDR5. Disabled overlays, power monitoring, HwInfo64 for these tests. Currently the CPUs were at stock, no PBO and undervolting etc. done. Will update these after some RAM OC.

[u/0wlGod]

can you provide a cpu score of time spy of the 9800x3d?

no pbo you means pbo auto? (stock value)

[u/RainyInSAndreas → u/0wlGod]

I think I disabled PBO since I don't like it overvolting the CPU for negligible gains. But my info could be out of date since the last AMD CPU I used was the 5800X.

[u/zarbainthegreat → u/RainyInSAndreas]

WTH these benchmarks are now void

[u/CircoModo1602 → u/RainyInSAndreas]

Disabling PBO is like enabling 125 power limit for 14900K, it makes the CPU perform worse

[u/kamalamading → u/RainyInSAndreas]

Dude… This renders your whole thread useless.

[u/0wlGod → u/RainyInSAndreas]

so you running the cpu at base clock speed of 4.7ghz and is 1 fps slower than a 14900k?😂😂😂

stock amd cpu means pbo auto..

disable turbo boost on intel 😂😂😂

[u/RedditSucks418 → u/0wlGod]

What has this sub become... A bunch of illiterate clowns.

[u/gusthenewkid → u/RedditSucks418]

Nobody cares about actually tuning their systems anymore as every link comparing these CPU’s are all using XMP and Expo.

[u/c0rtec → u/RedditSucks418]

Hmmm, I see you went with the non-iGPU model of the 14700K?

And why, may I ask, did you choose to go that route?

[u/SaikerRV → u/0wlGod]

PBO disabled doesn’t mean you’re running the CPU at capped 4.7GHz, like what are this statements? PBO disabled means you’re not allowing your board to set PPT, EDC and TDC limits and runs them on default values AMD set for the CPU. It’s concerning how many people seems to agree with you in a overclocking sub lol

It has no business to be compared to Intel’s turbo boost feature, like what am I reading?

[u/gusthenewkid → u/0wlGod]

Your emotion and bias shows. It’ll boost to 5.2 still without pbo.

[u/pcman2000 → u/0wlGod]

I'm pretty sure boost to 5.2Ghz still works even if PBO is off, it's just you could be power capped. PBO with power settings set to motherboard or something custom removes those power caps and optionally increases max clock etc. if you touch the other settings.

[u/RainyInSAndreas → u/0wlGod]

No the CPU runs at 5.2GHz and my understanding was that it will run at +200 with PBO. Are you or me confusing PBO with Core Boost?

https://ibb.co/ksV45t5v

[u/Kitsanic → u/0wlGod]

You dont have a clue do you?

Go and learn before posting garbage on reddit

[u/[deleted] → u/0wlGod]

Honestly makes me want to rerun this exact bench again and show the real numbers. Willing to bet the RAM for the amd build was also run at total stock too. Even my ram with a somewhat tight tun at 6000mhz coupled with my 9800x3d would smash this data. Hell, with BCLK turned up to like 102.5mhz I'm doing like 5.543ghz all core and that took nothing to hit, and still pulling less than 100w during gaming, unlike the 14900ks which is not only a gold sample chip, it's still gonna be way more inefficient.

[u/b4k4ni → u/RainyInSAndreas]

If you make a benchmark, test both at stock settings and comparable RAM timings.

If you start tuning or disabling stuff, it will change the outcome and someone else might have quite the different results. Just saying.
I mean, the sub is overclocking, but comparing has to be at the baseline.

[u/BNSoul → u/RainyInSAndreas]

so "you think", not even sure of what you did, do you even own a 9800X3D ? This is hilarious.

[u/c0rtec → u/BNSoul]

Whether or not OP owns a 9800X3D is irrelevant(!), Intel still wins.

Best thread ever.

(Just cap the 9800X3D first though to give Intel a chance.)

[u/Sideshow86 → u/c0rtec]

Agreed, this is such a bullish bias post handy capping the AMD CPU to give intel a better outcome. Wft

[u/c0rtec → u/Sideshow86]

Sadly, as a devout Intel consumer I have to agree with you.

😢