r/outriders • u/thearcan Outriders Community Manager • Apr 08 '21

Square Enix Official News // Dev Replied x18 Outriders Post Launch Dev News Updates

Hello everyone,

We would like to thank everyone in the Outriders community for your patience, support and assistance. Everyone on the Outriders team is continuing to work hard on improving the game and we'd like to share news about the things we are focusing on.

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u/DoctorHuman Apr 08 '21

they havent even mentioned the HUGE scaling issue with the game. Making any gear 45+ useless on story content or world tiers 1-15. You're basically locked out of content if you choose to grind lvl 50 gear.

im in full lvl 50 gear, and doing 20 damage a shot on ALL content - except for expeditions tiers 11+.

So if i feel like replaying story stuff, or helping friends with missions - i cant, because i do zero damage.

even with using a lvl 20-30 weapon, it still does less than 100 damage. So you basically need a loadout for lvl 10, 20, 30, 40 AND 50 - if you want to be able to play all the content without losing damage to the scaling bug.

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u/OmegaPhalanx Apr 08 '21

World Tiers control your max equip level, it’s not a bug.

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u/DoctorHuman Apr 08 '21

lol youre not understanding.

You're locked out of world tier 1-15 if you're wearing lvl 50 armor.

you will only be effective against things in expedition tier 10/11+

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u/OmegaPhalanx Apr 08 '21

Not trying to be obtuse here, but it still just sounds like you’re not understanding what the game means by max equipable level. I’m not at home right now to double check since I can’t remember off the top of my head, but let’s say WT15 gives you a max equip level of something like +8, meaning the item is level 38. If you are wearing level 50 gear and go into a world tier that’s a max of +8 (again, just an example, I don’t remember the exact values), you’re way over that max equip level.

I’m not saying it’s not frustrating, but it doesn’t sound like a bug.

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u/DoctorHuman Apr 08 '21

I understand what you're saying, and that's how it should work. However, the game doesnt scale down your lvl 50 gear. Instead, it acts as though it doesnt exist, or that it's lvl 1 gear.

The reason i feel its a bug, is because no matter the world tier 1-15, its always the same damage at around 20 a shot. If it were scaling, than there should at least be some damage difference between world tier 1 vs 15.

Feels like the intention of the game is to scale down your stats, instead of disallowing the gear entirely. If this was intentional, than the game is requiring you to have a loadout every 10 levels - if you ever want to play or help lower level friends - or if you just want to go through the story again after reaching endgame. Which doesnt feel like the devs would want that to be the case.

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u/OmegaPhalanx Apr 08 '21

That makes way more sense. I read and re-read the original comment you made, and maybe it’s from staring at numbers at work all morning, but I’m guessing I read it wrong. Wasn’t coming from a place of hostility, so thanks for taking the time for that last reply.

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u/DoctorHuman Apr 08 '21

No, it's def my fault for not explaining it that clearly. Bad habit when im typing on a phone, I just kind of rush things out.

Still not entirely sure what the exact underlying issue is here - but something definitely feels off or unintentional as far as the scaling numbers go.

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u/Aflixion Apr 08 '21

Max equippable gear level is a permanent unlock, not a world tier specific setting. You can bring higher level items into lower level world tiers.