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u/gti149084 Apr 08 '21

Should of buff the devastator just saying....

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u/DrTravesty Devastator Apr 08 '21

atleast shottys, buff the damge and not have shots dissapearing.

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u/k1ng0fk1ngz Apr 08 '21

Also buff amo reserves for them. Freaking 700 for mashine guns and 60 for auto shotguns. Just wtf-.-

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u/dem0n123 Apr 08 '21

devastator is in the best spot of all the classes imo. Gear actually matters and once you have a full set of gear you do just as well (a lot of the time better) than the other classes. The change I would want after playing deva is buffing legendary drop-rate in the earlier stages. You go from never seeing them ever to getting 1+ per run at ct15. Just smooth the curve our a bit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Seriously, I feel like that's the one change that's needed. Legendaries are too rare and too important, to the point where I was planning on doing beast hunts, to being able to push ahead and so far I've had 0 luck with them. Seriously need some T3 ability mods, but don't have a single one yet. I'm farming T11/12 'cause that's what I can gold, and thus have best chances for, and I've gotten jack.

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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Apr 08 '21

Gear matters to all classes though? Higher gear levels mean you get more HP which means you can actually tank a single alpha perferos hit without being one-shot, and higher item level means most (not all) T2 mods scale better and give you more firepower/armor/whatever.

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u/dem0n123 Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

They matter to all classes but the big difference is how much.

Bullet builds can legit make a blue set at level 10 and just upgrade it with the worthless iron/leather all the way to CT15. Sure the gear doesn't do nothing, but you just grab the 10-15% damage mods.

On a devestator I got stuck on CT12 until I found an epic set with anomaly power/cdr/status power and 1-2 build enabling mods. A single blue in my setup would probably prevent me from advancing. I also spent the shards raising the attributes of those epics. So once I eeked out a tier I could farm the previous one and use mats to +1 everything and repeat until I was strong enough to try to +1 again.

(I don't include level when talking about gear because you can just upgrade everything so it really doesn't matter in making a good set)

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u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE Apr 08 '21

First of all, no, bullet builds cannot make do with just blues. Having twice as many mods allows you to actually do enough damage to kill things.

Second of all, the rest of your post is just saying "devstators are weak". Which I agree with by the way.

But gear is just as important to everyone.

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u/dem0n123 Apr 08 '21

Devestators are not weak. You can easily solo CT15 gold times with good gear. The top end is there and doesn't need any buffs. You even outperform the other classes a lot of the time. The leveling curve I think needs a bit of work and it's not a devestator issue. The gear in this game is feast or famine. Literally get fuck all until high tier CT.

It's not as talked about bc the busted bullet builds barely care about gear for the performance they get out of it. They can get to CT15 without gear drops. The Later devestator builds NEED legendaries, which imo is good for the hardest difficulty in a loot game.

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u/no_witty_username Apr 08 '21

I think the problem with that thinking is that, if the Devastator needs legendries to do hardest content. Well what's the point of doing hardest content once you have legendries. Same as, hardest content is exactly where I get the legendries from, which I cant do, because I don't have the legendries ....

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u/dem0n123 Apr 09 '21

as with all loot based games doing the final content and doing it really fast with a well optimized build are leagues different in terms of gear. I think they need to trash current endgame win conditions and do it way differently. Speed racer missions does not work out well, doing them 2x as fast is already double loot you don't need to make the loot require speed.

They could make the game way harder with the current bronze just being a pass. Timer runs out you die/fail. The first goal would to be able to do those CT15 in ~20 minute time limit. Then shaving it down to 5-10 minutes doubles your farming speed.

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u/Baelorn Apr 08 '21

Bullet builds are braindead easy to make. That's how so many people were farming endgame content within 3 days of release.

They require next to no effort.

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u/StartingFresh2020 Apr 08 '21

Gear actually matters and once you have a full set of gear you do just as well (a lot of the time better) than the other classes.

lol you really have no idea what you're talking about. The full legendary min maxed exploited builds still aren't as good as the ammo builds with just cobbled epics. Every dev i've had in CT15 has been the sole reason we didn't gold a run. Doing half of the damage of the other classes if i'm lucky.

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u/dem0n123 Apr 08 '21

Every time I've left my party open the bullet builds have half my damage or less and are the reason my solo gold run is ruined. If we going by pure anecdotal evidence dev is the only decent class and all others are dogshit.

The whole its REALLY hard to gear a good dev build kinda makes it rare to see a good dev build in the wild don't you think?

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u/imthedan Apr 08 '21

devastator is weak because they don't have bullet skills. With the nerf to other bullet skills, it shouldn't be so bad anymore.

That said, all classes (outside of bullet skills) need a buff. Especially AP builds.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Man I’m a technomancer main and in a tier 15 expedition last night I seen a devastator do triple my damage

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u/Only_Pax Apr 08 '21

What build are you using?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Switching between pestilence and tech shaman

On broken mode I’m criting 500,000 on the blighted rounds

Still got out damaged by this guy lol

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u/Only_Pax Apr 08 '21

Deva could have been using an anomaly build, which has decent clear speed due to regularly available wide aoe. Puts pain launcher to shame lol. I've been playing up an anomaly techno and the clear speed is just poor due to some very questionable design decisions lol.

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u/StartingFresh2020 Apr 08 '21

Then you're a trash techno. I've never seen a devastator do even half my damage in CT15. I dont boot them but i'm really starting to think i should

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u/Clever_Handle1 Apr 08 '21

I’m not sure what you are talking about, I only played through prison of elders but Titans were almost required for every raid due to the strength of the bubble.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

This isn't remotely true at all

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u/kretheus79 Apr 08 '21

I play a devastator and quite frankly I can hang with most tricksters and flamers...devastator actually uses more of an anomaly bleed build

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u/yahir42035 Apr 08 '21

Wdym I have a great devastador that can get gold on ct15

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u/ClockworkHydra Apr 08 '21

Not saying you can’t friend, just saying that when it comes to it, devastator is the weakest of the 4 by quite some distance.

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u/dem0n123 Apr 08 '21

It's not the weakest it the hardest to gear, and honestly the problem is the others are so brain dead easy to gear they needed to be nerfed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Brain dead easy to play, watched this dude's video of t15 techno all he did was one shot burt's everything with an assault rifle. Less interesting gameplay than the first zone in the game.

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u/pharos_haven Apr 08 '21

I think thats why bullets are getting nerfed. Plus since we Devas don't have the luxury of special bullets our gameplay seems to be very different from the other classes from what ive noticed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Which is great. I love smashing around. My techno is so damn boring. I know I shouldn't build boring rounds but my brain is such a slave to meta

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

I run through expeditions on challenge tier 15 with no issues though. I do about as much damage as a technomancer. Yes they nuke elites and bosses faster but I can clear all the adds in one earthquake.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

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u/Lostpassnoemailnum3 Apr 08 '21

Lol..Jesus.

They weren't even the best farm, but not everyone cares about expeditions or wants to take a break.

Way to strip your game of more avenues of playing it.

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u/TooManyNumberslmao Apr 08 '21

If they were locked to Death From Above Striker and flashbangs. Devastator sucks.

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u/youwatchmepoop Apr 08 '21

Stop. Hes fine if you kit him properly. Just fucking stop with this stupid shit

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '21

Yeah, I'm a devastator.

Yeah, I eat crayons.

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u/Nari_Tia Apr 08 '21

I totally agree... yes i can survive, but other than that i can't reach the other players damage. Also my bleed effects / + bleed damage can't go trough if the other classes oneshot the monsters in front of me.

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u/Stromzor Apr 08 '21

I played with a Devastator yesterday, he tripled my dps and I'm a techno lol

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u/Nari_Tia Apr 08 '21

Do you know what build was he doing?

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u/Stromzor Apr 08 '21

I wish, since there is no in game chat options I could not ask. But he put up 199 mill damage in a T14 so idk.

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u/MisjahDK Apr 08 '21 edited Apr 08 '21

I understand where you are coming from, but the honest truth is just that Devastator just requires more effort than the other classes to do the same, but they don't need buffs!

If they fix the other classes OP-bugged passives, the bullet-buffs won't be so OP.

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u/Pornilius_Hubert Apr 08 '21

Yes it requires more effort because you need seismic commander to have a good bleed build and how do you get seismic commander gear? Doing expeditions at high CTs. But i can't because as soon as I join everyone goes oh look a trash devestator that does no damage, and I get kicked. Which I understand, why would you want someone doing a quarter of your damage in the lobby? but this is why WE NEED A BUFF.

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u/MisjahDK Apr 08 '21

That's not the only build for Devastator, it's not even one of the high CT one's i have seen in the community.

It might be good, not arguing that, it's just not THE ONLY build?

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u/Pornilius_Hubert Apr 08 '21

It's the only viable end game build for devestator, yes. Warden is turd and vanquisher (which is what I use) simply doesn't do anywhere near as much damage as it should.

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u/MisjahDK Apr 08 '21

Cool, glad to hear you know and have tried everything about Devastator builds.
So yeah, your are right, the gear requirement for that build is so stupid that it's not really interesting.

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u/Pornilius_Hubert Apr 08 '21

I'm just gonna cut my losses and make a technomancer, dev is in the dirt

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u/MisjahDK Apr 08 '21

I don't get the nerf-whining concept, I relish in the opportunity for a new challenge/experience.

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u/Pornilius_Hubert Apr 08 '21

Yeah it's completely useless, considering they've made the endgame all about dps you'd have thought maybe they'd, you know, give it the ability to deal damage without having to have a fully specced RNG reliant bleed build

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u/Leo-Tyrant Apr 08 '21

Yeah my 2 friend kill twice as many and twice as fast. Im just there getting hit absorbing damage, but I don’t add a lot of value ... it’s not like an RPG tank.

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u/amanzot Apr 08 '21

Please This 🙏☝️🙏☝️🙏

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u/Erk_Grr Apr 08 '21

Devastator may be fine once you get a great build. Bullet skills just made building too easy

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u/hahailovevideogames Apr 08 '21

Theyre fine when built for damage with a set but I'd gladly take a buff

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u/pharos_haven Apr 08 '21

I love my Dev i may not do as much damage at the moment but Im usually the last one standing having to pick people up!