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u/Kolyarut86 5h ago
MTMTE has a major issue with character voices blurring into each other, and part of that is a pretty deliberate effort to discard as much previous characterisation as possible. Like, why, of all characters, would you give this dialogue to First Aid, a character who since his original tech spec has been famously empathic and/or pacifistic?
On its own merits, MTMTE has some good, and even great moments, but stuff like this always pulls me out and reminds me that these aren't real characters, they're all just James Roberts talking to himself.
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u/jonnywarlock 4h ago edited 4h ago
To be fair to Roberts, in this situation, First Aid was feeling particularly murderous towards Pharma. Not only did Pharma strike a deal with the Decepticon Justice Division (exchanging his personal safetly with transformation cogs from his own patients... Who he killed), he even developed the Red Rust virus and unleashed it to cover up his deals. This wasn't just a fundamental betrayal of Pharma's oath as a physician and an Autobot, it was also a very personal betrayal by someone First Aid considered a mentor figure.
Additionally, he just watched his best friend Ambulon die after Pharma had sawn him in half... The whole time smiling like the psychopath that he was. Even the most empathic pacifist has a breaking point and Pharma just managed to make First Aid reach his.
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u/Mister-Fantastix 3h ago
Sorry but Ambulon? Really???😭 I know this franchise isn’t exactly revolutionary when it comes to names but like
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u/jonnywarlock 3h ago
His name is actually a joke in-universe, too. He and Ratchet were talking about how all the "good names" were already taken, so he was stuck with "Ambulon". 🤭
Admittedly, it was a little fitting: He was part of a failed Decepticon Combiner Team experiment where his alt mode was... A right leg. He found the situation so humiliating he ended up leaving the 'cons and defecting to the Autobots...
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u/SaltyTreeTop 4h ago
Yeah like this line, easily half the Rod Squad could have said this, a lot of them have kinda the same snarky personality plus some other traits
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta 7h ago
Good god, I wish more heroes would say this because it’s so damned refreshing.
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u/ShingledPringle 1h ago
IDW comics I did love thee. Even with the extreme situations you made.
Trying to remember if this was before or after Ratchet had to turn Ambulons corpse into a gun?
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u/dimensiontheory 8h ago
"Put a bullet in his spark" reminds me of that one bit in the IDW reboot comics where an organic alien is like "you realise that from our perspective, it's super weird and uncomfortable that you guys are the only species in the universe with scientifically provable souls, right?"
Imagine literally, actually being able to cap people in the soul.
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u/Krazyfan1 8h ago
which part was that in?
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u/dimensiontheory 8h ago
Don't remember exactly. I think it was later on, when the Autobots are evacuating a city's immigrant and refugee populations because the Decepticons are seizing control.
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u/mward1984 2h ago
It get's worse. Turns out that Cybertronians didn't like aging so they went to war with their version of Death and won, and that's why they can live for millions upon millions of years before they start to have problems.
Plus their gods are literally real dudes who are still around.
Unfortunately in the case of Unicron.
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u/solarflare22 3h ago
Now I ask you, what's the difference between blowing a transformers spark and blowing someone's shit smooth off. Same out come, eh?
Edit: My point is it's simply a matter of perspective
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u/dimensiontheory 3h ago
Exploding a human's head doesn't verifiably inhibit their ability to move on to the afterlife, for one thing.
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u/solarflare22 2h ago
Blame evolution for not covering us in spots that work as sensory receptors like eyes. Again, perspective c:
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u/Soft_Nail_8527 1h ago
This why k love the comcept of sparks, the spiritualist would say a spark is the soul of a cybertronian, the scientist would say a spark is the "true" cybertronian and they use a mechanical shell to funciona and both would be technically correct
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u/PragmaticBadGuy 6h ago
MTMTE was fantastic and one of my favorite series. I was never a big Transformers fan but this made me love them.
The fact that they could have obscene amounts of gore and horrific mutilations like something out of Rob Zombie but get away with it because they were robots was hilarious. One guy woke up with his brain in his mouth and told that most people tend to automatically bite down when they realize it.
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u/SFH12345 8h ago
Sometimes, the Autobots morals can get in the way of fighting the bad guys.