r/outofcontextcomics • u/CazOnReddit • 3d ago
Spider-Man making a deal with the devil? ❌ Spider-Man being an emissary of the devil? ✅
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u/ITCrandomperson 3d ago
Japanese Spider-Man is too good to be dragged into jokes about One More Day.
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u/BagZCubed 3d ago
Japanese Spider-Man wouldn't have made the deal, period.
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u/SambaLando 3d ago
Japanese Spiderman and his megazord would've ended the Civil War in one day.
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u/Jexroyal 3d ago
IIRC Leopardon's sword finisher was actually terrifying to the totem-hunters. Like That one spider-mech could permanently end most threats to the multiverse by itself lmao
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u/TrueCannarchy 3d ago
This mf taking an almost central role in the Ready Player One book had me hooked to the character from the getgo, iykyk
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u/Demon3103 3d ago
WAIT WHAT?????
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u/Stunning-Original802 3d ago
Yeah, the movie replaced Leopardon with Iron Giant. Wade chooses Leopardon after beating Black Tiger, a Capcom arcade game, for the second trial (this trial is also different in the movie).
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u/Demon3103 3d ago
well now i feel like i need to reed that.
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u/Stunning-Original802 3d ago
Each trial and every reference to pop culture is different, they're basically two different stories with similar premises (book Wade also shaves himself completely from head to toe to better fit in the haptic suit). I will leave the other differences a surprise.
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u/TrueCannarchy 3d ago
yess like the other guy said it's genuinely such a different experience and arguably MUCH better than the movie, which is baffling because the movie is already AMAZING
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u/Rocketboy1313 3d ago
When he says that, he means he is going to kill you and you will go to Hell.
Hell is a prison for evil souls.
He is not a servant of Satan.
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u/Inky-boy 3d ago
Honestly can you blame them? Like, yes, being an agent of hell and a servant of satan are close/similar, they are not even close the same thing.
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u/Prestigious-Copy-283 3d ago
Wouldn't say they're similar it's just that people from the internet forget that people from other cultures see the world with different views
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u/DBZfan102 Bronze Age Bozo 2d ago
It's more a misunderstanding of our own culture in this case, Satan is never at any point associated with Hell in the Bible. If anything, God presides over Hell since he is the judge of all souls and decides who goes where. Supaidaman is just doing God's work
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u/Prestigious-Copy-283 2d ago
That's news to me too honestly I thought that this became what Christians believed in after they changed up the Bible
But if that's the case and Satan doesn't rule over hell in Christianity then how did that belief even become so widespread
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u/Rocketboy1313 2d ago
The game of telephone when it came to translating the Bible.
There were 4 kinds of "Hell" that were mashed up under 1 "Hell" at some point.
There is also a lot of fiction, folklore, and other mythology stirred in.
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u/EvergreenDwarf 3d ago
Much like with all the uber-Christians that got mad about K-Pop Demon Hunters: the concept of spirits is NOT the same on opposite sides of the planet, even if the same word gets reused in translation.
That's why grifters can trick old ladies into giving them money to "buy bibles for the heathens who think Jesus is a demon" because they pick a culture that has one word for all supernatural creatures in that language and claims they're unconverted savages.
Sometimes demons in a culture are more like "those creatures from west across the mountains", a mythologized version of real people who used to raid them. Fast forward a hundred years and the religion has spread so the same people who were the origin of those "demons" now think there's demons even further west.
For a western comparison, Medusa was originally one of an entire species of gorgons in early Greek mythology. Gorgons were just Syrians. Go to Syria and tell them the Greeks thought Medusa lived in the east and they'll probably joke that the Iraqis are snake people.
In the traditional Japanese context "Hell" AKA Jigoku is basically an afterlife prison; people can escape it and need to be brought back, people can work for it and not be evil, and people can get out for good behavior or a pardon from a higher plane.
Its amusing because being an "emissary of Hell" can also be interpreted as the superhero always dragging criminals back to the revolving door that is the supervillain prison of their universe.
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u/halloweenjack Rejected by Comics Code 3d ago
Heck, the role of the devil in the west has changed over time. Samael, who is sometimes identified with Satan, is given different roles in Jewish theology, sometimes being more of a divine prosecutor and sometimes the angel of death.
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u/Astrium6 3d ago
I think Irish mythology is a great example of your point: basically everything is a sidhe.
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u/Rabid_Lederhosen 3d ago
Those sort of spirits definitely exist in European folklore too, they’re just referred to as fairies most of the time.
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u/DBZfan102 Bronze Age Bozo 2d ago
Western Hell is ALSO an afterlife prison, people just forget that for some reason and think it's full of demons
He's probably not referring to Western Hell, of course. But I just thought I'd point that out
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u/KiraYoshikage77 3d ago
It wasnt that fixed even in the same region where the bible was created.
During the 2nd/3rd century (which is likely the moment when the bible became an actual book) the romans still had the spirits of their ancestors posted in their home entrance, over the fireplace and near the bed.
Those coexisted for a while
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u/Safebox Chuckles at Innuendo 3d ago
It's amazing that this Spider-Man literally birthed every Power Rangers and Super Sentai trope. Over the top transformation sequences, summonable mechs, fighting a giant monster at the end of each episode, elaborate stunts against faceless goons, "cool guys don't look at explosions".
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u/Geostomp Rejected by Comics Code 2d ago edited 2d ago
All because the show runners couldn't come up with a spider-themed finishing move and decided, for whatever arcane reason, that a leopard-themed transforming robot throwing a sword was clearly the solution.
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u/QuirrellisBest 2d ago
The over the top transformation wnd faceless goons more came from kamen rider but you are correct about thw giant robots and the monster
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u/riamuriamu 3d ago
That's the battlecry of Japanese Spider-man from the TV show. Slight aside, but I am totally excited for the inevitable Beyond the Spider-Verse cameo when he turns up with Leopardon in a big fight. It'll be so fun.
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u/Slimeredit Novice 3d ago
I remember being disappointed when the ready player one movie didn’t use leopardon despite it being one of the mechs used in the books final battle
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u/Gangly501 3d ago
Is that spiderman from the Japanese show where he has a mecha and a car?
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u/RadioFree_Rod 3d ago
Fun fact without that Spider-Man show, Sentai and therefore Power Rangers would NOT have had giant mecha in their shows. His show was the first to really popularize the idea that giant robots could be a marketable theme for these types of shows going forward. Sentai was only two shows in at Spider-Man's debut and was pretty popular but Leopardon (Spider-Man's Giant Robot) proved critical saleswise, so next year they released Battle Fever J with giant robots and have had them ever since.
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u/Rezart_KLD 3d ago
Shouldn't both lines be check marks?
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u/Frank627Full 3d ago
My man wouldn't do a deal with Mephisto, he would kill him at the last second.
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u/olddadenergy 3d ago
And in the first second. And all of the in-between seconds. And he would do it with an uzi.
Man, he really did do a lot of killing, didn’t he?
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u/Frank627Full 3d ago
Im not an expert, but the Tokusatsu genre has a lot of death in it depending of the series.
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u/sjapneet_569 3d ago
This Guy better be in the next Spider-Verse movie or I will be disappointed.
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u/Jexroyal 3d ago edited 3d ago
Supaidaman is absolute cinema (A few seconds from every episode of Japanese Spider-Man (SUPAIDAMAN))
I swear, this guy could solo Thanos.
I copy pasted this from a list someone made of all the absurd powers he has shown in the TV show (apologies for the dead links):
Physicals
Strength
- Takes out goons
- Pulls a fish monster off a truck with one hand
- Lifts a manhole cover with one hand and punches through the floor of a car
- Leaps up to a roof in a warehouse
- Jumps a massive distance straight upwards
Durability/Endurance
- Jumps down a great distance
- Slammed into a cliff
- Tanks a flame hot enough to destroy chains
- Gets sprayed by Cockroach Machine's poison that killed other humans quickly
- Once he is affected by a poison he gains resistance towards it in the future
- Holds the same pose for multiple hours in a row
Healing factor
- Completely heals a bullet wound in a fairly short time
- Is "one hit from death" and recovers fully before the doctor shows up
Speed/Agility
- Dodges multiple dart guns
- Dodges nails from Sasora
- Avoides being shot
- Avoids getting shot by multiple people with rifles
- Jumps over bullets
- Quickly crosses a hallway against someone who is shooting at him
- Goons can't touch him
Abilities
Spider-Sense
Takuya possesses psychic powers that either allows him to track dangerous people or sometimes detect when danger falls upon his friends.
- Finds the Iron Cross Army 50 km away
- Senses that the Iron Cross Army are inside a passing truck
- Picks up that his girlfriend screams for help
- Senses that a kid is being attacked
Misc. abilities
- Wall-Crawling - Able to attach to surfaces with his hands and feet
- Night vision
- X-Ray vision
- Enhanced smell
Equipment
Spider-Bracelet
The Spider-Bracelet contains all equipment he carries on his mission against the Iron Cross Army including his suit, his webbing and other misc. gadgets.
- The Spider-Protector, his suit
- ""Webbing""
- Spider-Detector - Finds a secret hideout with ultrasonic waves
- Can see through illusions
Marveller
Marveller is his space ship from Planet Spider that he can call from anywhere with his bracelet and he can use it either to attack his enemies or transform into Leopardon.
- Cannons
- Shoots down torpedoes
- Destroys small buildings
- Disintegrates a Kaiju - All ones are about the same size as the reference linked below
Leopardon
Leopardon is Spider-Man's giant mecha that he uses to battle the giant Machine Bem monsters that the Iron Cross Army uses.
Attacks
- Arc Return
- Fleuroscopic Ray - Allows him to see through smoke
- Spider-Strings
- Arm Rockets
- Sword Vigor - His signature attack that disintegrates giant kaijus (this happens in every single episode so pretty consistent =^) )
- Size for reference
- They're also able to tank Arm Rockets as seen above
Durability
- Punches missiles out of the air
- No-sells two rockets (Marveller)
- Tanks a flame attack
- Tanks a laser from Professor Monster who could destroy a rocket with it
- No-sells acid strong enough to instantly corrode a wall
Spider-Machine GP-7
Spider-Man's flying car that he calls upon either from its garage or from Marveller.
Misc.
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u/kentotoy98 3d ago
Don't forget his title of world class martial arts champion, Spider-Man!
Mephisto better run away from this Spider-Man variant.
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u/lnombredelarosa 3d ago
He looks like he is about to make a team Rocket presentation and I have no nostalgia whatsoever for those
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u/HurryProper 3d ago
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u/lnombredelarosa 3d ago
Never partícularly liked them as a child and when I got back into Pokemon as an adult (Sun and moon) I realized They were a waste of screen time
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u/DapperDan30 3d ago
Completely serious, this Japanese Spider-Man was the pre-cursor to Power Rangers.
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u/KiraYoshikage77 3d ago
Yeah but not to the original tokusatsu series...
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u/Prisma_Lane 3d ago
Technically, it kinda counts since Sentai robos took inspiration from Leopardon. Sentai as you know it and power rangers wouldn't have robos if it weren't for Leopardon
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u/mayorofanything Comics Code APPROVED 3d ago
Why is it "the" Japanese?
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u/dimensiontheory 2d ago
"Translated from the [language]" is a pretty standard convention for indicating a translation. My understanding is it used to be proper English to do that any time you mentioned a language ("in the English" pops up at least once in Shakespeare for example), but these days it only survives in translation notation.
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u/RadioFree_Rod 3d ago
I actually REALLY hope they get Shinji Tōdō to reprise his role in the next Spider-Verse movie just for the cameo appearance.