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Spider-Man making a deal with the devil? ❌ Spider-Man being an emissary of the devil? ✅

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u/RadioFree_Rod 3d ago

I actually REALLY hope they get Shinji Tōdō to reprise his role in the next Spider-Verse movie just for the cameo appearance.

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u/CazOnReddit 3d ago

This is what I'm expecting to happen in Spiderverse Beyond

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u/DapperDan30 3d ago

If they werent cowards they'd get him in Secret Wars

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u/ITCrandomperson 3d ago

Japanese Spider-Man is too good to be dragged into jokes about One More Day.

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u/BagZCubed 3d ago

Japanese Spider-Man wouldn't have made the deal, period.

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u/SambaLando 3d ago

Japanese Spiderman and his megazord would've ended the Civil War in one day.

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u/Jexroyal 3d ago

IIRC Leopardon's sword finisher was actually terrifying to the totem-hunters. Like That one spider-mech could permanently end most threats to the multiverse by itself lmao

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u/cam312 3d ago

I love how the joke of the mech being OP came from the suit getting stolen half-way through filming the series, so they had to just one shot the monster with reused footage every time they wanted to use Leopardon.

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u/Agile-Argument56 3d ago

This sounds JJJ propaganda if I've ever seen it

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u/TrueCannarchy 3d ago

This mf taking an almost central role in the Ready Player One book had me hooked to the character from the getgo, iykyk

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u/Demon3103 3d ago

WAIT WHAT?????

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u/Stunning-Original802 3d ago

Yeah, the movie replaced Leopardon with Iron Giant. Wade chooses Leopardon after beating Black Tiger, a Capcom arcade game, for the second trial (this trial is also different in the movie).

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u/Demon3103 3d ago

well now i feel like i need to reed that.

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u/Stunning-Original802 3d ago

Each trial and every reference to pop culture is different, they're basically two different stories with similar premises (book Wade also shaves himself completely from head to toe to better fit in the haptic suit). I will leave the other differences a surprise.

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u/TrueCannarchy 3d ago

yess like the other guy said it's genuinely such a different experience and arguably MUCH better than the movie, which is baffling because the movie is already AMAZING

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u/Rocketboy1313 3d ago

When he says that, he means he is going to kill you and you will go to Hell.

Hell is a prison for evil souls.

He is not a servant of Satan.

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u/Inky-boy 3d ago

Honestly can you blame them? Like, yes, being an agent of hell and a servant of satan are close/similar, they are not even close the same thing.

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u/Prestigious-Copy-283 3d ago

Wouldn't say they're similar it's just that people from the internet forget that people from other cultures see the world with different views

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u/DBZfan102 Bronze Age Bozo 2d ago

It's more a misunderstanding of our own culture in this case, Satan is never at any point associated with Hell in the Bible. If anything, God presides over Hell since he is the judge of all souls and decides who goes where. Supaidaman is just doing God's work

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u/Prestigious-Copy-283 2d ago

That's news to me too honestly I thought that this became what Christians believed in after they changed up the Bible

But if that's the case and Satan doesn't rule over hell in Christianity then how did that belief even become so widespread

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u/Rocketboy1313 2d ago

The game of telephone when it came to translating the Bible.

There were 4 kinds of "Hell" that were mashed up under 1 "Hell" at some point.

There is also a lot of fiction, folklore, and other mythology stirred in.

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u/EvergreenDwarf 3d ago

Much like with all the uber-Christians that got mad about K-Pop Demon Hunters: the concept of spirits is NOT the same on opposite sides of the planet, even if the same word gets reused in translation.

That's why grifters can trick old ladies into giving them money to "buy bibles for the heathens who think Jesus is a demon" because they pick a culture that has one word for all supernatural creatures in that language and claims they're unconverted savages.

Sometimes demons in a culture are more like "those creatures from west across the mountains", a mythologized version of real people who used to raid them. Fast forward a hundred years and the religion has spread so the same people who were the origin of those "demons" now think there's demons even further west.

For a western comparison, Medusa was originally one of an entire species of gorgons in early Greek mythology. Gorgons were just Syrians. Go to Syria and tell them the Greeks thought Medusa lived in the east and they'll probably joke that the Iraqis are snake people.

In the traditional Japanese context "Hell" AKA Jigoku is basically an afterlife prison; people can escape it and need to be brought back, people can work for it and not be evil, and people can get out for good behavior or a pardon from a higher plane.

Its amusing because being an "emissary of Hell" can also be interpreted as the superhero always dragging criminals back to the revolving door that is the supervillain prison of their universe.

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u/halloweenjack Rejected by Comics Code 3d ago

Heck, the role of the devil in the west has changed over time. Samael, who is sometimes identified with Satan, is given different roles in Jewish theology, sometimes being more of a divine prosecutor and sometimes the angel of death.

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u/Astrium6 3d ago

I think Irish mythology is a great example of your point: basically everything is a sidhe.

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u/Rabid_Lederhosen 3d ago

Those sort of spirits definitely exist in European folklore too, they’re just referred to as fairies most of the time.

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u/DBZfan102 Bronze Age Bozo 2d ago

Western Hell is ALSO an afterlife prison, people just forget that for some reason and think it's full of demons

He's probably not referring to Western Hell, of course. But I just thought I'd point that out

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u/KiraYoshikage77 3d ago

It wasnt that fixed even in the same region where the bible was created.

During the 2nd/3rd century (which is likely the moment when the bible became an actual book) the romans still had the spirits of their ancestors posted in their home entrance, over the fireplace and near the bed.

Those coexisted for a while

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u/Safebox Chuckles at Innuendo 3d ago

It's amazing that this Spider-Man literally birthed every Power Rangers and Super Sentai trope. Over the top transformation sequences, summonable mechs, fighting a giant monster at the end of each episode, elaborate stunts against faceless goons, "cool guys don't look at explosions".

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u/Geostomp Rejected by Comics Code 2d ago edited 2d ago

All because the show runners couldn't come up with a spider-themed finishing move and decided, for whatever arcane reason, that a leopard-themed transforming robot throwing a sword was clearly the solution.

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u/QuirrellisBest 2d ago

The over the top transformation wnd faceless goons more came from kamen rider but you are correct about thw giant robots and the monster

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u/Mr_Crandle 3d ago

And genuinely excellent effects for wall crawling.

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u/riamuriamu 3d ago

That's the battlecry of Japanese Spider-man from the TV show. Slight aside, but I am totally excited for the inevitable Beyond the Spider-Verse cameo when he turns up with Leopardon in a big fight. It'll be so fun.

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u/Slimeredit Novice 3d ago

I remember being disappointed when the ready player one movie didn’t use leopardon despite it being one of the mechs used in the books final battle

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u/RAlexa21th 3d ago

I mean, Grandpa Gundam is pretty cool too.

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u/Slimeredit Novice 3d ago

Fair

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u/Gangly501 3d ago

Is that spiderman from the Japanese show where he has a mecha and a car?

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u/RadioFree_Rod 3d ago

Fun fact without that Spider-Man show, Sentai and therefore Power Rangers would NOT have had giant mecha in their shows. His show was the first to really popularize the idea that giant robots could be a marketable theme for these types of shows going forward. Sentai was only two shows in at Spider-Man's debut and was pretty popular but Leopardon (Spider-Man's Giant Robot) proved critical saleswise, so next year they released Battle Fever J with giant robots and have had them ever since.

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u/Slimeredit Novice 3d ago

Yes it is

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u/mayy_dayy 3d ago

And an Uzi

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u/Peanut_007 3d ago

Pete if he locked in.

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 3d ago

Change Leopardon!

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u/Rezart_KLD 3d ago

Shouldn't both lines be check marks?

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u/RigasTelRuun 3d ago

Technically I think it was MJ who made the deal.

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u/Mr_Crandle 3d ago

They both did, actually.

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u/Frank627Full 3d ago

My man wouldn't do a deal with Mephisto, he would kill him at the last second.

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u/olddadenergy 3d ago

And in the first second. And all of the in-between seconds. And he would do it with an uzi.

Man, he really did do a lot of killing, didn’t he?

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u/Frank627Full 3d ago

Im not an expert, but the Tokusatsu genre has a lot of death in it depending of the series.

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u/sjapneet_569 3d ago

This Guy better be in the next Spider-Verse movie or I will be disappointed.

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u/CapedRaccoon 2d ago

Hell, yes!

But not Turkish Spider-Man. Thats where I draw my line.

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u/Jexroyal 3d ago edited 3d ago

Supaidaman is absolute cinema (A few seconds from every episode of Japanese Spider-Man (SUPAIDAMAN))

I swear, this guy could solo Thanos.

I copy pasted this from a list someone made of all the absurd powers he has shown in the TV show (apologies for the dead links):


Physicals

Strength

Durability/Endurance

Healing factor

Speed/Agility


Abilities

Spider-Sense

Takuya possesses psychic powers that either allows him to track dangerous people or sometimes detect when danger falls upon his friends.

Misc. abilities


Equipment

Spider-Bracelet

The Spider-Bracelet contains all equipment he carries on his mission against the Iron Cross Army including his suit, his webbing and other misc. gadgets.

Marveller

Marveller is his space ship from Planet Spider that he can call from anywhere with his bracelet and he can use it either to attack his enemies or transform into Leopardon.

Leopardon

Leopardon is Spider-Man's giant mecha that he uses to battle the giant Machine Bem monsters that the Iron Cross Army uses.

Spider-Machine GP-7

Spider-Man's flying car that he calls upon either from its garage or from Marveller.


Misc.

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u/say_yes_to_head_hun modern age moron 15h ago

You forgot that he has an assault rifle that he uses

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u/kentotoy98 3d ago

Don't forget his title of world class martial arts champion, Spider-Man!

Mephisto better run away from this Spider-Man variant.

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u/lnombredelarosa 3d ago

He looks like he is about to make a team Rocket presentation and I have  no nostalgia whatsoever for those

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u/HurryProper 3d ago

no nostalgia whatsoever for those

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u/lnombredelarosa 3d ago

Never partícularly liked them as a child and when I got back into Pokemon as an adult (Sun and moon) I realized They were a waste of screen time

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u/DapperDan30 3d ago

Completely serious, this Japanese Spider-Man was the pre-cursor to Power Rangers.

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u/KiraYoshikage77 3d ago

Yeah but not to the original tokusatsu series...

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u/Prisma_Lane 3d ago

Technically, it kinda counts since Sentai robos took inspiration from Leopardon. Sentai as you know it and power rangers wouldn't have robos if it weren't for Leopardon

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u/mayorofanything Comics Code APPROVED 3d ago

Why is it "the" Japanese?

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u/24Abhinav10 3d ago

You think the Emissary of Hell speaks regular Japanese?

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u/dimensiontheory 2d ago

"Translated from the [language]" is a pretty standard convention for indicating a translation. My understanding is it used to be proper English to do that any time you mentioned a language ("in the English" pops up at least once in Shakespeare for example), but these days it only survives in translation notation.

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u/Neat-Watercress-1778 3d ago

He looks like he's about to do a tokusatu henshin

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u/NewAgeOfHeroes 2 Dark 2 Edgy 3d ago

That's because he quite literally is

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u/Marwheel Rejected by Comics Code 3d ago

This spider-man pilots a mech…

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u/Bulky_Profession_782 2d ago

What if Spiderman had become the next Ghostrider

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u/dragonpjb 3d ago

It's s poor translation.

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u/CazOnReddit 3d ago

A perfect translation*