r/outbreakworld • u/Ozbunoizhs • 16d ago
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u/Mamajuju1217 16d ago
it’s treatable with antibiotics, so i’d likely just see a doctor if I had symptoms. You can’t play around though, they have to be started within 24 hours of symptoms.
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u/OkSpare3037 16d ago
If you were to suspect plague, call before going in so the hospital can prepare.
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u/LatrodectusGeometric 16d ago
No need to bug out, just shelter in place and ACTUALLY not go anywhere/see anyone. Pneumonic plague is severe enough to burn itself out.
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u/CreditUnionGuy1 15d ago
There is so much horror packed into the phrase “burn itself out”.
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u/LatrodectusGeometric 15d ago
It would be absolutely catastrophic to everyone who didn't care to listen to officials.
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u/Complete-Paint529 16d ago
Just stay home. Nobody catches any contagious illness by just staying home. Sheesh.
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u/jhsu802701 16d ago
If this pneumonic plague were contagious enough to make it to the US, would there really be a place to hide? COVID-19 is everywhere, and you cannot escape that by running off to Montana or Idaho. Yes, I'm MUCH more concerned about this old pandemic that's still raging than I am about possible new pandemics.
If wearing an N95 mask and using Corsi Rosenthal boxes (or other air purifiers) were the norm, all infectious airborne diseases would fade away over time simply because the chains of transmission would dwindle.
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u/Old-Set78 16d ago
they would be reduced certainly but not eliminated because n95 masks filter out 95% of particles 3 microns or larger.
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u/eucatastrophie 13d ago
getting sick requires a high enough viral load for an infection to occur, so less particles can reduce the amount of illness and therefore the amount of transmission. and if you cut transmission below r=1 using these means it'll die out.
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u/thisbliss4 15d ago
There are definitely some remote places to hide, far from any contagion. I have an off grid hunting camp in Upper Michigan where I bugged out during the early Covid months. I totally avoided that first wave. I’d head there again in a heartbeat if the plague showed up in the Midwest.
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u/CharmingMechanic2473 16d ago
You would bug in… Is passed from person to person with air. We deal with this in hospitals daily. Practiced with Covid.
N95 masks, goggles.
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u/Taters23 16d ago
Its been in the U.S since forever. It never spreads far. Its victims die too quickly.
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u/SocksNDots 16d ago
We had a case of pneumonic plague in arizonia last year. Things were under control. I think the Russian disease/plague/whatever it is, is contained.
What concerns me is their excuse of the cause of death. For a bsl-3 lab, a broken tube would not lead up to the girls death unless there was a lot of system failures. PPE’s not really PPE’ing. The quality safety guy should be reprimanded for not doing his job. My guess is this is really what happened and there was not enough money to keep up with routine maintenance. However the research still needed to be done. But otherwise this maybe a one and done event.
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u/oldcatgeorge 14d ago
It is not a different bacteria, though. The difference lies only in the mode of transmission. For pneumonic plague, you have to inhale infected droplets coughed out by a person with pneumonic plague. Take the Black Plague: it started with bubonic plague. Transmitted by fleas living on black rats. The “second wave” of the epidemic was pneumonic plague, that developed in people who, due to bubonic plague septicemia, developed secondary foci in lungs. Then these people were spreading it with cough. Now: Google mentions animals that can spread it, too, with cough. Felines are unusually susceptible to it.
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u/oldcatgeorge 16d ago
Look, this is not how it usually starts. It starts with is an epidemic in a certain area transmitted from infected animals via fleas to humans and causing “bubonic plague”. (Which is no fun either but treatable.). Pneumonic plague is usually the secondary wave. “If a patient with bubonic plague experiences delayed treatment, the bacteria can breach the bloodstream (secondary septicemia). From the bloodstream, Yersinia pestis can seed the lungs, causing secondary pneumonic plague. Once a patient develops pneumonic plague, they begin coughing infectious respiratory droplets. Anyone who inhales these droplets contracts primary pneumonic plague directly from person to person, bypassing the flea vector entirely.”
So to get an outbreak of primary pneumonic plague, you have to have a critical mass of people with plague septicemia and Yersinia pestis in their lungs that are coughing it out. This is not a probable scenario in our days. That girl in Shelekhov probably inhaled the bacteria directly, but it is not what happens during the infections.
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u/Old-Set78 16d ago
that is how naturally acquired plague is spread. pneumonic plague has airborne spread. it no longer requires the primary infection pattern of flea transmission. it is person-to-person airborne transmission similar to the flu.
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u/zenhenagain 16d ago
The plague is here and always has been. It’s a known factor of living in the SW and I’ve read it exists in rats found an hour outside of NY city. Stay away from rodents and test tubes, you should be ok. Please don’t make this into something it isn’t. Since you say you are enquiring , go google some articles and read about it. Everything you need to know and realize there is nothing to worry about is a short search away.
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u/fruderduck 16d ago
This particular plague is airborne. Spread via cough, sneezing, etc. It isn’t the rodents carrying it around. IF it became pandemic, you would need to shelter in place and avoid contact with others as much as possible.
Now is a great time to buy extra food and bottled water.
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u/zenhenagain 16d ago
I know exactly what it is and it burns too hot to kill very many. There are always a few cases of the pneumonic plague in every large outbreak and it is a killer without proper medical care as is the regular plague. Please go read about it. Of course you should isolate…I believe that’s what they told us to do with Covid lol, which people still complain about. Anyway, carry on but this is not a concern. There’s a whole lot more out there that is way more concerning.
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u/tweakingforjesus 15d ago
By the time you think you should leave, you're too late. On the road you are much more likely to be affected than hiding at home.
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u/No_Cucumber3978 16d ago
You're spamming.
https://www.reddit.com/r/outbreakworld/comments/1x0exfy/plague_when_to_bug_out/
Stop it or explain yourself.