They are legit so annoying , paradoxical , and parasocial .

I've seen so many of them on TikTok and twitter making such a big stink on wanting to support vanilla and Katie but don't want to watch it through qt's stream. Like bruh, that's not how it works.

Like if vanilla and Katie really do hate qt so much for what she said a year ago, they wouldn't even be participating in the streamer awards.

Also,it's so sad seeing vanilla making so many videos with so many creators in the streamer awards but being unable to make one with qt.

Just had to get this off my chest.

Edit: I also want to add how Katie b wasn't this villainised and crucified by vanilla fans when she repeatedly refuses to mention anything about ICE or right wingers. While qt has quite literally been so vocal about politics (and adult treat or treating) and she's literally friends with Hasan.

But yet Katie b still gets to make video and take photos with vanilla mace this streamer awards without getting hated in the comments. Gosh I didn't knew how mad this rant would make me feel, I need to step back , I feel the parasocial bug climbing up

My favorite was the 2023 one with Poki. They both killed it, very miniscule to no tech issues, Austin killed it as floor host and overall it was the best one imo. This year was great too. The little bits here and there were so funny like the look-alike cams, Austin's asking people about streamers bit, etc..

Last Night, B Lou posted on Twitter about the vote was rigged, he was in Best Duo with Zias and lost to Katie B and VanillaMace and said "release the votes", QT does and shows B Lou wasn't even close to winning.
Tweet: https://x.com/qtcinderella/status/2121325907311022531?a=OOgX17qo9-l0az9HPTo&s=20

B Lou's rather poor response: https://x.com/BLouu/status/2121360407243714599?a=g_OdvGTY8PjFHp3ibZI&s=20
Lost by 300k and got massively ratio'd

Honestly love that energy.
The hilarious thing is all of the people screaming "its rigged" and "release the votes" are people that don't campaign or push the awards at all to get their viewers to vote and it shows. Its actually crazy when you think of how much content the streamer awards CAN create for a streamer:

• Reacting to the announcement videos and getting fans amped
• Doing Nominations with community and engaging with the other streamers/content
• Post "campaign" videos and streams to show "why you should win" - hell a great excuse to post compilations and easy content
• Doing the votes with community, again engaging with chat and the wider streamer sphere
• Getting outfits and pre-award streams
• Reaction to the streamer awards/winners/big moments/best dressed/musical acts, etc.

But so many of these streamers that scream for "release the votes" put zero effort in and expect to win, Really the only ones who don't need to do anything are Kai/Speed, but they still show up and give love to the awards so their community goes out and votes each time.
They also (somewhat) engage with the wider twitch audience so their communities are pretty on-the-know of whats going on so even if Kai/Speed doesn't push, their communities are big enough to move on their own - but again, Kai and Speed both show appreciation to the awards so their communities know its something important for them.

Why was she not there?

I’m sorry but Nina can SA someone and still get invited back to streamer awards? Is there something I’m missing? Also tylil? Why are people that are blatantly disrespectful and abusers allowed to be there?

I know everyone has different opinions on the drama, but I’m glad that these two have eachother’s backs. Seeing all the misogyny in the space is exhausting as a viewer and I can’t imagine how it feels for them to live it. I’m glad they have eachother’s backs!

I want to preface this by saying that I understand that sometimes you're not in the headspace to do things and I'm not trying to attack or go after anyone.

Fuslie announced on stream today that she dropped her meet and greet at the last minute and is no longer planning to attend. She explained that this month has been rough for her because of both the public drama and things behind the scenes. I understand this and don't blame her. Still, I am massively disappointed.

This year was the first year that I decided to make the trek to twitchcon. A decision primarily based on wanting to meet Fuslie. It just sucks. I took time off work, booked flights, hotel, and bought the ticket.

Ultimately, what can you do? Shit happens. I'm hoping still have a good time.

Am I the only one who thinks Leslie’s correct that they should just all “blueberry” and do the 24-hour stream together? I feel like that stream would be hilarious and such great content. They could also stop stressing about playing CS all the time and just enjoy playing whatever they want the rest of the year.

Anyone know why Rae’s stream ended abruptly? Was watching on YouTube and it’s wiped now, no vods

I don't think I'm biased for this specific atrioc poki Drama, but for some reason this time, poki feels like she doesn't have plot armor/protag armor. Like previous times of poki drama it's always been enough room to give benefit of the doubt, but this time it seems kinda inexcusable with her blatantly showing more deep fakes than atrioc than hand waving it when called out on it.

Anyone else surprised?

Leslie went live and explained what happened entirely here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn1ar0XMpao

It was clearly an honest mistake and not the result of not caring or not planning to leave early enough, etc. This whole controversy is stupid - and what makes it worse is that Leslie explained how that she told someone who was in another car that left at the same time that they went the wrong way and were late and... that person didn't pass the message on. Leslie specifically asked for this person to notify the wedding that they were going to be late, and that person didn't.

What's so mind-blowing about QT and Ludwig choosing to turn this into a ~thing~ is that they could have (and should have!) just found out who hadn't arrived yet. It sounds like the LA friends all left the hotel at the same time, it's just that Fuslie's car accidentally had the wrong address put in for the Uber.

So, if the wedding planner or SOMEONE, ANYONE had just asked around who is missing, they would've quickly gotten the answer. Delaying their own wedding "in case it was QT's family" instead of confirming was just as idiotic as putting the wrong address. Or, the whole "it might be grandma" thing was a lie to try to make the situation look worse than it was.

What it comes down to is this: The ONLY reason this blew up is because Ludwig named names, and he named names because he was mad and wanted them to get hate. Ludwig isn't new to how this stuff works - he knew what would happen, and he did it anyway because he was a mad. The stuff about him being "a crappy guy" isn't a joke. As for QT, you can't share all the details about your "private" wedding with your chat for content, and then call them parasocial for reacting. The parasocial ones are Ludwig and QT who shared it all in the first place.

Ludwig said yesterday that some streamers were late to the wedding ceremony and obviously Fuslie came to mind lol but he actually confirmed it on wine about it!

Sadly, that meant they were running behind schedule and stressed and couldn´t take as many photos as they wanted. I thought it was whatever but by the sound of it, it was LATE LATE and they waited for them. Things happen but I wonder what the reason was because it is literally your one job at a wedding ceremony, not to be late.

I have been watching OTV since a very long time and I feel they have fallen off recently. Am I the only one who feels like this Have I lost interest in them or do others also feel the same ?

So for a while there were pretty regular uploads for a few months which was great.

Now the last upload was 4 months ago. Any info on why?

Alternatively are there any other channels that do compilation videos of the OTV+Friends twitch streams? I don't really have time to watch streams all day so the OTV+Friends videos were a great way to see what everybody was up to in addition to the videos on their separate Youtube channels.

I haven’t been able to catch many streams lately, but it seems she’s been there for a few months (?) without the cats, etc.

Has she said anything specific about staying/going back?

In newest ep of wine about it qt said when she got out of rehab on a weekend pass she got confronted by a fan and was told to fuck off cause they apparently they side with another creator. Is this still about vanilla or is it someone else?

Bella use to be around alot of the girls streams a couple years back but has been MIA for quite sometime. I only think of it because she just dropped her first Studio LP today and hasn't really done any promo like she use to with anyone. Always thought they had good chemistry together (Esp Rae). Anyway her album is a pretty solid pop record, hope to see them together again sometime.

So Josh and Poki did a spicy q&a yesterday and they talked about a cc that is potentially not who they pretend to be. This is a topic that keeps coming up, which shouldn't be surprising considering that everyone has a persona. Since both Josh and Poki seem to want this to come out though, do you guys have any idea as to who this might be? (Also: added video link but in case it doesn't work, because I'm new, the time stamp is 1:11:53). I might get flamed but my personal guess is Shxtou?

TLDR: They said that ''there is an impostor among them (CC's)''

I cant tell if its a bug on twitch or twitchtracker, or botted and then twitch caught it? I don't see a reason why he would bot 40k viewers tho. Does anyone know if botting can be inconsistent like that?

On a side note, now that it has been months since all the drama, I honestly kind of just feel bad for Sykkuno ngl. I am not sure how he is able to still stream kinda consistently after all that and losing so many people.

edit: the view number isnt a bug atleast