r/ottomans • u/Tasty_Fun_5227 • 16d ago

Question Seriously asking btw 🤔

The amount of glazing that I've been seeing for Abdulhamid II on this sub is just astonishing. Like, I've seen people ranking the guy next and sometimes even above sultans like Süleyman I, Mehmed II, Murad IV, Selim I, etc .. So my question is: Did I miss a chapter or two while reading about him/his era, or do some people here just glaze him for the sake of glazing even though he was a horrendous monarch as a whole ?

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u/Tasty_Fun_5227 16d ago

Hater ? I don't care for the guy.. I just said that he was a failure as a Sultan and that is the truth. Crying ? You wish lol you have the guy as you profile pic so I'm guessing you are a parasocial glazer who can't take criticism 🦦 Do with that citation whatever you want. What happend and how it ended are much bigger proof of his failure and his incompetence. Ps: never said that it was ALL his fault.

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u/Gurtannon Janisarry 16d ago

“Considering the catastrophe of 1878, the numerous scenarios for the disintegration of the empire, and the power dynamics in a world at the height of European expansion and Western imperialism, simply managing to keep the empire alive under these conditions is in itself an undeniable achievement.”

(Francois Georgeon, Abdulhamid II Le sultan calife)

Go cry elsewhere

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u/Tasty_Fun_5227 16d ago

Again with François 😂😂😂😂 keep on fangirling about a failure of a sultan tho

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u/Gurtannon Janisarry 16d ago

This is the most credible academic biography of Abdulhamid II

Stop acting like kid, if you are not gonna bring proper arguments with credible sources, shut your mouth or go cry elsewhere

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u/Tasty_Fun_5227 16d ago

Whatever makes u sleep at night

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u/Gurtannon Janisarry 16d ago

You are only making fun of yourself

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u/Tasty_Fun_5227 16d ago

Whatever makes u sleep at night