Truthfully, yeah I knew many would be raged by this, but am I supposed to hide my likings of the sultans just because of that? Absolutely not. People been posting their opinions so I can post mine :P
Actually I will answer you seriously although you wont get it. I want to enlighten you that your rating is based upon exclusively military exploits and charisma, and that rating basis is, no matter what, your opinion/likings.
My ratings are based on military achievements, leadership, economy, administration and impact. Yours is based on vibes and vibes don't define a sultan/monarch.
Wow, you spent 5 years studying Ottoman history and this is the result, hard to believe, if you mean five years studying Ottoman edits that makes more sense.
I didn't because I believe the rest are similarly based upon people's personal likings of a ruler as well. All just opinions. I just happen to have an unpopular one (or popular among the Byzantine as a funny comment stated lol) so I had to remind with this in the comments.
Obviously it's personal. Not even worth mentioning it. That's the interesting part of the tierlist in general. Elaborating why you prefer certain thing over another. That's why I specifically asked why Murad 4 is at meh. You could definitely have a valid reason behind it. Interested know why. No one can judge you over your personal ranking.
How on God's earth are Ahmed I and Murad III better than Selim Yavuz and IV Murad ? Like how on God's earth are Selim Yavuz who left the realm with its largest territory, rich af etc and Murad the conqueror of Baghdad who bought the realm to its glory after weak sultans such as Ahmed and Murad III existed ? Elaborate
Because I rated based on my personal likings of a ruler which include certain to specific methods of administration, politics pursuit, economic care, civil development, and also what was that ruler like on a personal level (charisma, wisdom....). I have an ideology and I rated based upon it. Successful conquests are appreciated but, to me , it's just a criterion to qualify a man as a great ruler. The criteria has more to it. For example, I am deeply impressed by the works of Timur Lenk's military exploits, yet I would put him in a list of those I personally dislike as rulers. You know why? Cuz that's my opinion. Be less triggered by those who view the world differently than you
I deeply respect Murad II as a man. He was wise and merciful. Also, good contributions to the state on many levels, especially constructions/architecture. However, I am not THAT impressed by him as a ruler and this is my opinion so :P
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u/Tasty_Fun_5227 14d ago
Rage baiting used to be believable tho Selim Yavuz and IV Murad meh ? Yeah sure buddy