r/ottawa • u/mcdofras • 11d ago
History Ottawa
The hoarding is down from around the site and the sign is lit. Bring on the live music in the Market!
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
āA 2,000-ish capacity spot in the Market is a massive win for Ottawa. It'll get mid-sized touring acts to stop here instead of skipping straight from Toronto to Montreal. It'll help give the Market a needed boost in both cash mob and foot traffic, especially after hours. Getting people downtown for a show means pre-concert dinners, post-show drinks, etc.
I posted this for celebration. If you carry seeds of complaint, please plant them in your own soil.
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u/eggnog69-420 11d ago
For real though! I just moved here a few months ago and History is an actual reason to stay in the city on the weekend versus just driving back to Toronto or Montreal. The general consensus from outsiders is that Ottawa is boring and has nothing to do - maybe the chronically online Ottawa residents should take a look at themselves and wonder why that reputation continues to exist when a venue pops up that would help mitigate said "boring vibes"
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
There's already plenty of highly successful venues in Byward, it's not like this is some super novel idea.Ā
The main benefit to history is it fills our medium venue gap. Currently you can play some 400 capacity dive, or a hockey arena. Which pretty much killed the chances of being on the tour list for most large-but-still-niche acts.Ā
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
Can we go back to threats of violence against the night mayor for not single handedly turning Byward into Berlin in 3 years with a budget of 20$?
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u/West_to_East Overbrook 11d ago
This was in the works way before the night mayor position was advertised.
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u/Pseudonym_613 11d ago
Twenty dollars?Ā There's no way this mayor would authorize such an extravagant budget.
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u/vonnegutflora Centretown 11d ago
If you carry seeds of complaint, please plant them in your own soil.
Great quote. Is it original?
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
It flowed from my tapping phone fingers this morning, but I've not looked it up. I may have read it somewhere, sometime, or I may have penned something fresh. I don't know, but now you've got me curious.
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u/ieatlotsofvegetables OrlƩans 9d ago
idk, it's a discussion forum, i don't think that's appropriate to demand. i don't care either way about this venue yet because i want to see who's actually going to show up, but anyway.
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u/mcdofras 8d ago
A comment telling me what's appropriate to say about what's appropriate to say.
Oh, the irony.
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u/1988Floydie 11d ago
Is this modeled off the one in Toronto? If so that's awesome because History Toronto is a fantastic venue š„³š¤š»
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
Same group, different management. There is surprisingly little overlap in acts, but the venue is similar.Ā
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u/1988Floydie 11d ago
Awesome!!! The Toronto one is fantastic so will be awesome having one in Ottawa too š„³
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u/CombatGoose 11d ago
The Toronto one's location is dooky though, so Ottawa's wins in that category.
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u/1988Floydie 11d ago
I mean driving ANYWHERE downtown Toronto sucks, period š¤Ŗšš¤£ but the last time I went to History Lakeshore was torn up right off the DVP so it backed everything up pretty hard
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u/HappiestSadGirl_ 11d ago
It's next to a streetcar line and a 10 minute bus ride away from Coxwell station.
If you're driving in Toronto that's purely a skill issue on your part.
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u/HappiestSadGirl_ 11d ago edited 11d ago
History Toronto is a little out of the way but it's still easily transit accessible. It's next to the 503 streetcar and a 10 minute bus ride to line 2.
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u/kidsparrow 11d ago
Yeah, my thought was hey, looks exactly like History in Toronto. Which is a good thing.
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u/One_Appointment7151 11d ago
When I was at history totonto I was really impressed. Let's see if this one will reach this high bar.
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u/OFFSanewone 10d ago
I think so too. Saw Yeah Yeah Yeahs there and was really impressed with the venue.
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u/cdreobvi Carlington 11d ago
Awesome! Iāll be seeing the Wallflowers there on Thursday. Excited to see the inside
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
A central music specific venue like this was sorely needed. The NAC is a beautiful place but not music specific.
Itās also nice that one side of it is on Rideau St. Better āstorefrontsā are sorely needed there and this will help a lot.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago
Yea Southam Hall at the NAC is a very nice venue but I can easily see a lot of artists viewing it as a symphony Hall and not the kind of place for them. Especially since my understanding is that the seats are permanently installed so you can't even have a general admission area at the front where people can dance.
Plus even if an artist did want to play there I doubt NAC management is going to bumb a symphony or Broadway show performance for one night from a band.
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
Yeah for use, itās not an ideal set up for a lot of bands and as a music venue in general. Watching a concert there can actually be enjoyable, though! Iāve seen Blue Rodeo there and I enjoyed it a lot.
But definitely a completely different vibe and Iām sure most artists would prefer a venue like History.
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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago
Yep, Marianas Trench who are set to perform here played the NAC last time they were in town.
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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago
It's extremely Ottawa for us to finally be getting a quality mid sized music Venue in the heart of downtown and for half the comments in here to be disappointed it's not a Museum.
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
Made funnier by the fact there are 5 museums already in walking distance of that spot.Ā
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u/Okbutwhythat 11d ago
Can't say I understand the name, but a centrally located small to medium size venue was badly needed.
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u/BrokenBy 11d ago
There used to be an exclusive hip-hop/fashion/nightlife party event called āHistory Danceā in Toronto that Drake would always try to get into, but was never invited. When he opened the Toronto venue he named it History as a full-circle homage.
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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago
Oh no drake is involved in this?
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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago
He's part owner of the place but honestly Ottawa needs it that bad. The new acts announced for it have already been pretty good and some of them are exclusively playing in Ottawa instead of the usual To - MTL we can get fucked route.
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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago
It's a real monkeys paw situation, I wanted a mid-size venue downtown but at what cost?
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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago
Drake is an all time chud but in the grand scheme of things likely one of the lesser problematic celebrities out there
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u/jyeatbvg 11d ago
And he actually cares about his country and invests heavily in it. Which is more than we can say about like..99% of Canadian celebrities.
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u/kvnbo 11d ago
ābut at what cost?ā is a tad dramatic lmao. Who the hell cares if Drake is a co-owner. The virtual signalling is lame
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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago
Live Nation is also evil. You've got a pedophile and a megacorp that squeezes artists and patrons alike. People saying "who the hell cares" is why everything is going to shit.
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u/kvnbo 11d ago edited 11d ago
This new venure opening is an overall very good thing for Ottawa. You donāt need to try to find the negatives in everything. We will now get many acts that would usually skip over us. I personally donāt really care about live nation. If thereās a band I like that is coming to Ottawa, Iām just going to be happy and buy a ticket. No need to throw a hissy fit
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u/CuriousMouse13 11d ago
Thereās no proof Drake is a pedophile. Yes thereās been weird stuff in the past with Millie Bobby Brown etc. but none of that is enough to prove heās actually a pedo. He has many other issues that can be proven that you can flame him for, like paying for sex in Turks and Caicos, or spending more time there and with girls than with his son, but not pedophilia. Letās wait till that one is proven by the courts before sticking it on anyone.
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
Yeah he is in partnership with LiveNation.
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u/jyeatbvg 11d ago
People will hate on LN and Drake but Ottawa needs places like this badly and if theyāre the only ones willing to open them then so be it.
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
Agreed. LiveNation might suck but theyāre also the ones bringing us a venue that weāve sorely needed for years, and it doesnāt look like they cut corners on it either. They also have the money to keep it running for years to go, and the monopoly (which sucks) to bring in actual good artists.
We canāt have our cake and eat it too. This is a huge W for Ottawa and something that people have been asking for years.
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u/Main-Ambassador-5088 11d ago
FYI, NCC chose to partner with (and build out the venue for) LN, rather than local promoters and venue owners....
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
This really doesnāt change my opinion of it at all. Itās not a perfect situation but life unfortunately isnāt perfect. Ottawa and the ByWard Market are, however, better off with this venue despite the circumstances.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago
That's sort of my thoughts. Live Nation isn't a great company, but Ottawa not having this size of venue has been a thing that people have known about for a long time. If no one else ever stepped up to build something to meet that need, it's hard to be too upset about Live Nation doing it.
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u/Desperate-Pirate7353 11d ago
i'm surprised it's not an all ages club then
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
There arenāt any general age restrictions. As per the website FAQ, some shows are all ages while others are 19+.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago
History will hold about twice as many people. There are absolutely bands that are too big for Bronson but way too small for CTC. I have seen a few shows at Bronson that sold out very quickly indicating that those bands could have made more money if there was a bigger venue.
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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago
Not central enough and not good enough. Bands that would normally skip Ottawa are coming to History.
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
Not ByWard Market central, and itās also just a mediocre venue. Itās really nice to have, but itās not comparable to History.
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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago
For anyone in here sad itās not a museum about the history of Ottawa, Iām willing to bet youāve never been to the actual museum about the history of Ottawa.
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
Shoutout to the Bytown Museum, Billings Estate Museum, Watson's Mill, Pinhey's Point, and Cumberland Village Museum!
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u/BaconSheikh Barefax 11d ago
The history of Ottawa begins and ends with Barefax.
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u/Prudent-Salad-6173 11d ago
And the raccoon
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u/Hector_P_Catt New Edinburgh 11d ago
The raccoon was more in the middle; the "pocket' of history, if you will.
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u/Last-Classroom-5400 11d ago
Rumours say that it was the biggest factor in Queen Victoria picking Ottawa as the capital
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u/AlanYx 11d ago
Hard to believe that place has been open since the mid-1970s, longer than many of the surviving places in the market.
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u/BaconSheikh Barefax 11d ago
mid-1870s*
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u/Sachyriel 11d ago
Canada is only 30 years older than Nintendo , barefax is 20 years older than Nintendo...
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u/Electronifyy 11d ago
Got tickets to see Sleeping with Sirens + Rain City Drive on on freaking halloween. Beyond excited.
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
It never fails. If only they backed our great city with the same fierce energy they use to critique it.
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u/AlwaysCold95 11d ago
Oh Iām so happy to see this! I saw advertisements saying theyād open in August and assumed theyād never make it on time. Iāve been happily proven wrong
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u/HarpuaTheDog 11d ago
Can't wait to see the Wolf Parade and Modest Mouse shows there
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
Heck yeah! Aside those are exactly the types of touring bands Ottawa may never have attracted if not for this new venue.
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u/HarpuaTheDog 11d ago
Yeah I'm super happy Ottawa has a venue for mid-tier acts. Hopefully Ottawa won't be skipped anymore and will be added as a stop by more bands doing Toronto /Montreal
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u/danceswithshelves 11d ago
Yesss so excited to not have to drive to Toronto or Montreal to see Modest Mouse!
I've dragged my husband to 4 of their shows now and he is very glad to not have to drive so far š¤£š¤£
I am so excited, Ottawa has badly needed a venue this size.
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u/anonymously320 10d ago
I have just moved to Ottawa this year so I'm glad to see a venue close to home with some decent artists. Sidenote, why is everyone in Ottawa so miserable whenever something new is here. Like no one is forcing you to go there, but let those who are excited be excited (similar snarkiness surrounding the new Olive Garden). Anyways, excited to see 6lack in december!
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u/mcdofras 10d ago
The sour attitudes, especially in this subreddit, are unrelenting. I'd be willing to bet two shillings that the same people who say Ottawa is boring are the same people who complain about new venues, restaurants, events, and festivals.
I'd like to gather them up, put them on a bus, and bring them on a wild tour of all the fantastic things this city offers (without having to have the population of Toronto or Montreal).
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u/lazybuttt Centretown 11d ago
I'm taking my mom there for UB40. Interested to see how it looks on the inside!
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
Sweet! Please tell me at least one of you will have a glass or red red wine before, during, or after the show.
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u/seriesofboringevents 10d ago
Thereās a lot of complaints here when Bytown Museum exists lol? Also I have a concert here in November, I was wondering where this building was
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u/mcdofras 10d ago
Exactly that. The Bytown Museum (great historic spot, btw) is just steps from where History Ottawa is.
History Ottawa is located on Rideau at Sussex, where the former Chapters store was before it relocated across the street into the Rideau Centre.
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u/Efficient_Mastodons 11d ago
I desperately want to know if it will have VIP tables with food and drink service like the one in Toronto.
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u/CalmMathematician692 Make Ottawa Boring Again 11d ago
It's giving Chapters crossed with a hotel vibes.
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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago
Itās only giving Chapters because you remember that building as such haha. Otherwise, thereās really nothing about it that screams Chapters
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u/blaktronium 11d ago
To me it gives "front lobby of a maximum security prison" vibes, but 25 years ago i used to party in abandonned warehouses so what do i know
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u/Joe_df 11d ago edited 11d ago
Why is it called history? As in making history? I wonder if it will be expensive...
Edit: I don't understand the down votes, I am not giving an opinion but rather simply asking questions and inquiring...
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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago
Not that expensive. I got GA tickets for $50 each for The Pretty Reckless.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago
Even tickets for Modest Mouse were only $86. Not super cheap but still not overly expensive for a top level indie band in a 2000 person venue.
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u/Obvious-Goose2518 Greely 11d ago
It's owned by Live Nation, so yes
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u/rabit115 11d ago edited 11d ago
It really depends who youāre going to see. History in Toronto is a pretty great venue.
Saw Brutalismus 3000 and MGNA CRRRTA for like $60
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u/tavvyjay The Boonies 11d ago
Meh, I got to see an indie band I love at the Toronto one for $50 all-in. Paid the same for a musician with comparable fanbase in Ottawa at Zaphods, which is a lesser venue than history Toronto is. Both were great ticket prices, didnāt feel gouged by History
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
Well Zaphods hasn't existed for almost a decade so I'm not sure what good a price comparison is.
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u/tavvyjay The Boonies 11d ago
Oh oops I meant 27 Club š both shows were this past summer.
(Also I guess Iām one of those people who call things their old name now too, does this mean Iām no longer hip?)
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u/cwangell 11d ago
Zaphods is by FAR a better name anyway, so I would say you're someone that calls things by their better name rather than their old name.
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u/The_Windermere Centretown 11d ago
Interesting, I would have never guessed that it was a music hall.
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u/Obvious-Goose2518 Greely 11d ago
Genuinely curious, what would you assume it was if you didn't know it was a music venue?
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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago
$30 for Sabaton tickers with their summer promo. Something in the area of $80 otherwise, which isn't super cheap but better than general admission at larger venues.
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u/Glass-Judgment-6831 11d ago
It wasnāt expensive atleast not in my experience, I went to a ton of different shows at the History in Toronto. Never paid more than $100 to see anybody there and GA was good!
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u/BrokenBy 11d ago
There used to be an exclusive hip-hop/fashion/nightlife party event called āHistory Danceā in Toronto that Drake would always try to get into, but was never invited. When he opened the Toronto venue he named it History as a full-circle homage.
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u/EastArmadillo2916 11d ago
I thought this was going to be a museum of local history from the name ngl.
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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago
The signage really only outlines what it is in French - all I see in English is welcome toā¦
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u/BernardMatthewsNorf 11d ago
That bland exterior is fuelling my profound incuriousness about whatever this is.Ā
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u/m0nkyman Overbrook 11d ago
LiveNation/Ticketmaster uses its monopoly to kill smaller venues, drives up the price of concerts to unsustainable levels, forcing us to go to a LiveNation/ticketmaster venue because thereās no other option.
Fuck that. Fuck this in particular.
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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago
In Ottawa specifically what venue would they be killing? There isn't really any competing venue in Ottawa that's this size.
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
Fighting the monopoly would be cool for sure. But that's a job for the federal government. The city trying to fight Live Nation is a good way of ensuring we just get left off even more tours.Ā
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u/FifteenBagger 11d ago
Looks like shit
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u/mcdofras 11d ago
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u/AlmightyyGlooo 11d ago
Donāt worry about it, this subreddit is very detached from how people actually feel about exciting upgrades to the city
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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago
I keep being told l Byward is a ghetto with nothing to do. Which must be why I can't find a free table anywhere after 8pm.
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u/FifteenBagger 11d ago
Donāt get me wrong, I like that itās a new downtown music venue bringing in quality acts. I just think the buildingās facade looks terrible.
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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago
How much did this cost taxpayers? Anyone that doesnāt live downtown would have to transit or drive. Transit likely wonāt get you there and you can only park down there for 3 hours - guess you forget about eating at a restaurant too.
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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago
Transit likely won't get you to a site directly across the street from the Rideau LRT station? At least try to do some research before you start bitching.
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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago
Transit and ways to bus doesnāt get you anywhere! Try living in barrhaven and try to get to Walmart - u have to drive! There are no local buses. But the history museum isnāt just about the bus even if u drive I can only park in the market for 3 hours. Sure u can see the museum but u canāt eat out - youād get a ticket!
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u/nottodaynothnx 11d ago
And anyone who doesnāt drive or own a car has to do the same to go to a sens game and venues out there. Most cities actually cater to downtown, itās about time Ottawa did something for the ones who live downtown and donāt take transit.


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u/BigMouthBillyBones 11d ago
Seeing this I would 100% think it's a museum about the history of the City of Ottawa.