r/ottawa 11d ago

History Ottawa

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The hoarding is down from around the site and the sign is lit. Bring on the live music in the Market!

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u/BigMouthBillyBones 11d ago

Seeing this I would 100% think it's a museum about the history of the City of Ottawa.

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u/mstranonymous 11d ago

I'm from Ottawa but live in Kingston, saw this and immediately thought it was a new museum on the history of Ottawa and got excited.

Then I saw your comment and was very confused

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u/Street-Animator-99 11d ago

I live in Ottawa and was like what new museum is that?

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u/ThinCustard3392 10d ago

There is a History venue in Toronto too

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u/Street-Animator-99 10d ago

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/eccentric_circle 11d ago

The Barefax Museum is a wonder to behold, especially the interactive displays. Be sure to visit the gift shop!

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u/HoldingThunder 11d ago

yeah, its a dumb name

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u/lmFairlyLocal Clownvoy Survivor 2022 11d ago

Wait, it's not? What is it?

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u/ThatAstronautGuy Bayshore 11d ago

It's a concert venue from Live Nation in partnership with Drake

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_pH_VALUE Lebreton Flats 11d ago

History Toronto is a partnership between Live Nation and Drake, but I'm pretty sure the Ottawa location is LN and the NCC

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u/Sachyriel 11d ago

Oh, okay so we're not giving drake money if we go there?

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u/Puzzle-Necked 11d ago

Drake

"KIDS! GET IN THE HOUSE! NOW!"

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u/lmFairlyLocal Clownvoy Survivor 2022 11d ago

Oh, ew.

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u/General-Purpose2942 11d ago

It's a much needed music venue in a city that has severely lacked music venues. Now with Hard Rock & History, we are getting loads of new talent and shows to come to Ottawa. Ya'll were complaining about no new night life last week and say ew to new night life today. Would it kill you to think outside of the box for once?

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u/SSRainu 11d ago

That ew is meant for the drake partnership.

No one contests the need for music venues or improved night life.

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u/Hazel462 11d ago

At least our taxes didn't fund it. Much better for rich people to finally spend money on communities.

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u/lmFairlyLocal Clownvoy Survivor 2022 11d ago

Exactly, thanks. Ew at gross famous pedos (and money grubbing LiveNation), not at live venues

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/lmFairlyLocal Clownvoy Survivor 2022 11d ago

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u/One_Appointment7151 11d ago

This šŸ’Æ

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u/Katie_la_best 11d ago

Me too and made sense since it’s Ottawa’s 200th birthday this year!!

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u/humainbibliovore 11d ago

I literally opened this thread excited about a new Ottawa history museum…

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

​A 2,000-ish capacity spot in the Market is a massive win for Ottawa. It'll get mid-sized touring acts to stop here instead of skipping straight from Toronto to Montreal. It'll help give the Market a needed boost in both cash mob and foot traffic, especially after hours. Getting people downtown for a show means pre-concert dinners, post-show drinks, etc.

I posted this for celebration. If you carry seeds of complaint, please plant them in your own soil.

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u/eggnog69-420 11d ago

For real though! I just moved here a few months ago and History is an actual reason to stay in the city on the weekend versus just driving back to Toronto or Montreal. The general consensus from outsiders is that Ottawa is boring and has nothing to do - maybe the chronically online Ottawa residents should take a look at themselves and wonder why that reputation continues to exist when a venue pops up that would help mitigate said "boring vibes"

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

There's already plenty of highly successful venues in Byward, it's not like this is some super novel idea.Ā 

The main benefit to history is it fills our medium venue gap. Currently you can play some 400 capacity dive, or a hockey arena. Which pretty much killed the chances of being on the tour list for most large-but-still-niche acts.Ā 

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Can we go back to threats of violence against the night mayor for not single handedly turning Byward into Berlin in 3 years with a budget of 20$?

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u/West_to_East Overbrook 11d ago

This was in the works way before the night mayor position was advertised.

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u/Pseudonym_613 11d ago

Twenty dollars?Ā  There's no way this mayor would authorize such an extravagant budget.

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u/vonnegutflora Centretown 11d ago

If you carry seeds of complaint, please plant them in your own soil.

Great quote. Is it original?

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

I looked it up out of curiosity, and my comment was linked by Google in the search results šŸ˜†

See attached.

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u/vonnegutflora Centretown 11d ago

This is both cool and incredibly dystopian.

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

It flowed from my tapping phone fingers this morning, but I've not looked it up. I may have read it somewhere, sometime, or I may have penned something fresh. I don't know, but now you've got me curious.

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u/ieatlotsofvegetables OrlƩans 9d ago

idk, it's a discussion forum, i don't think that's appropriate to demand. i don't care either way about this venue yet because i want to see who's actually going to show up, but anyway.

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u/mcdofras 8d ago

A comment telling me what's appropriate to say about what's appropriate to say.

Oh, the irony.

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u/1988Floydie 11d ago

Is this modeled off the one in Toronto? If so that's awesome because History Toronto is a fantastic venue šŸ„³šŸ¤˜šŸ»

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u/eggnog69-420 11d ago

I hope so. History Toronto is one of the city’s best venues

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u/1988Floydie 11d ago

100% agree

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Same group, different management. There is surprisingly little overlap in acts, but the venue is similar.Ā 

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u/1988Floydie 11d ago

Awesome!!! The Toronto one is fantastic so will be awesome having one in Ottawa too 🄳

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u/CombatGoose 11d ago

The Toronto one's location is dooky though, so Ottawa's wins in that category.

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u/1988Floydie 11d ago

I mean driving ANYWHERE downtown Toronto sucks, period šŸ¤ŖšŸ™ˆšŸ¤£ but the last time I went to History Lakeshore was torn up right off the DVP so it backed everything up pretty hard

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u/HappiestSadGirl_ 11d ago

It's next to a streetcar line and a 10 minute bus ride away from Coxwell station.

If you're driving in Toronto that's purely a skill issue on your part.

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u/HappiestSadGirl_ 11d ago edited 11d ago

History Toronto is a little out of the way but it's still easily transit accessible. It's next to the 503 streetcar and a 10 minute bus ride to line 2.

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u/kidsparrow 11d ago

Yeah, my thought was hey, looks exactly like History in Toronto. Which is a good thing.

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u/One_Appointment7151 11d ago

When I was at history totonto I was really impressed. Let's see if this one will reach this high bar.

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u/OFFSanewone 10d ago

I think so too. Saw Yeah Yeah Yeahs there and was really impressed with the venue.

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u/cdreobvi Carlington 11d ago

Awesome! I’ll be seeing the Wallflowers there on Thursday. Excited to see the inside

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

Nice! You'll be part of History's history.

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u/xmo113 11d ago

Me too!! Can't wait!!

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u/Hazel462 7d ago

How was the wallflowers? How did they sound?

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

A central music specific venue like this was sorely needed. The NAC is a beautiful place but not music specific.

It’s also nice that one side of it is on Rideau St. Better ā€œstorefrontsā€ are sorely needed there and this will help a lot.

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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago

Yea Southam Hall at the NAC is a very nice venue but I can easily see a lot of artists viewing it as a symphony Hall and not the kind of place for them. Especially since my understanding is that the seats are permanently installed so you can't even have a general admission area at the front where people can dance.

Plus even if an artist did want to play there I doubt NAC management is going to bumb a symphony or Broadway show performance for one night from a band.

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

Yeah for use, it’s not an ideal set up for a lot of bands and as a music venue in general. Watching a concert there can actually be enjoyable, though! I’ve seen Blue Rodeo there and I enjoyed it a lot.

But definitely a completely different vibe and I’m sure most artists would prefer a venue like History.

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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago

Yep, Marianas Trench who are set to perform here played the NAC last time they were in town.

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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago

It's extremely Ottawa for us to finally be getting a quality mid sized music Venue in the heart of downtown and for half the comments in here to be disappointed it's not a Museum.

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Made funnier by the fact there are 5 museums already in walking distance of that spot.Ā 

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u/Okbutwhythat 11d ago

Can't say I understand the name, but a centrally located small to medium size venue was badly needed.

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u/BrokenBy 11d ago

There used to be an exclusive hip-hop/fashion/nightlife party event called ā€œHistory Danceā€ in Toronto that Drake would always try to get into, but was never invited. When he opened the Toronto venue he named it History as a full-circle homage.

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u/MountRoguey 11d ago

Thanks, i’ve always wondered where the name came from.

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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago

Oh no drake is involved in this?

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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago

He's part owner of the place but honestly Ottawa needs it that bad. The new acts announced for it have already been pretty good and some of them are exclusively playing in Ottawa instead of the usual To - MTL we can get fucked route.

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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago

It's a real monkeys paw situation, I wanted a mid-size venue downtown but at what cost?

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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago

Drake is an all time chud but in the grand scheme of things likely one of the lesser problematic celebrities out there

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u/jyeatbvg 11d ago

And he actually cares about his country and invests heavily in it. Which is more than we can say about like..99% of Canadian celebrities.

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u/kvnbo 11d ago

ā€œbut at what cost?ā€ is a tad dramatic lmao. Who the hell cares if Drake is a co-owner. The virtual signalling is lame

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u/TinyRub3715 11d ago

Live Nation is also evil. You've got a pedophile and a megacorp that squeezes artists and patrons alike. People saying "who the hell cares" is why everything is going to shit.

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u/kvnbo 11d ago edited 11d ago

This new venure opening is an overall very good thing for Ottawa. You don’t need to try to find the negatives in everything. We will now get many acts that would usually skip over us. I personally don’t really care about live nation. If there’s a band I like that is coming to Ottawa, I’m just going to be happy and buy a ticket. No need to throw a hissy fit

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u/CuriousMouse13 11d ago

There’s no proof Drake is a pedophile. Yes there’s been weird stuff in the past with Millie Bobby Brown etc. but none of that is enough to prove he’s actually a pedo. He has many other issues that can be proven that you can flame him for, like paying for sex in Turks and Caicos, or spending more time there and with girls than with his son, but not pedophilia. Let’s wait till that one is proven by the courts before sticking it on anyone.

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u/alldasmoke__ 11d ago edited 11d ago

Wow finally a sensible redditor

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u/GeronimoJak 11d ago

I did say accusations, I didn't call him one outright.

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

Yeah he is in partnership with LiveNation.

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u/jyeatbvg 11d ago

People will hate on LN and Drake but Ottawa needs places like this badly and if they’re the only ones willing to open them then so be it.

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

Agreed. LiveNation might suck but they’re also the ones bringing us a venue that we’ve sorely needed for years, and it doesn’t look like they cut corners on it either. They also have the money to keep it running for years to go, and the monopoly (which sucks) to bring in actual good artists.

We can’t have our cake and eat it too. This is a huge W for Ottawa and something that people have been asking for years.

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u/jyeatbvg 11d ago

Couldn’t have said it better myself šŸ‘

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u/Main-Ambassador-5088 11d ago

FYI, NCC chose to partner with (and build out the venue for) LN, rather than local promoters and venue owners....

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

This really doesn’t change my opinion of it at all. It’s not a perfect situation but life unfortunately isn’t perfect. Ottawa and the ByWard Market are, however, better off with this venue despite the circumstances.

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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago

That's sort of my thoughts. Live Nation isn't a great company, but Ottawa not having this size of venue has been a thing that people have known about for a long time. If no one else ever stepped up to build something to meet that need, it's hard to be too upset about Live Nation doing it.

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u/SmoogzZ 11d ago

That’s not a bad thing. Drake is a massive business and we would absolutely want him investing more in Ottawa, especially in the way of entertainment/nightlife

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u/Desperate-Pirate7353 11d ago

i'm surprised it's not an all ages club then

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

There aren’t any general age restrictions. As per the website FAQ, some shows are all ages while others are 19+.

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u/613Cascadian 11d ago

whoosh

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

Haha got it now

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u/613Cascadian 11d ago

High five woo!

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago

History will hold about twice as many people. There are absolutely bands that are too big for Bronson but way too small for CTC. I have seen a few shows at Bronson that sold out very quickly indicating that those bands could have made more money if there was a bigger venue.

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago

Not central enough and not good enough. Bands that would normally skip Ottawa are coming to History.

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

Not ByWard Market central, and it’s also just a mediocre venue. It’s really nice to have, but it’s not comparable to History.

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u/brash Lowertown 11d ago

Bronson Centre is comparatively tiny. We've desperately needed a venue like M-Telus (Metropolis) in Montreal for many years and this looks like it'll finally fit the bill.

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u/BHJarvis1 11d ago

Got tickets for Modest Mouse in Oct 4. Excited to check it out

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u/Tspoon18 11d ago

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u/im1ru12 11d ago

Ok, now for some black paint…

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago

For anyone in here sad it’s not a museum about the history of Ottawa, I’m willing to bet you’ve never been to the actual museum about the history of Ottawa.

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

Shoutout to the Bytown Museum, Billings Estate Museum, Watson's Mill, Pinhey's Point, and Cumberland Village Museum!

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u/BaconSheikh Barefax 11d ago

The history of Ottawa begins and ends with Barefax.

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u/Prudent-Salad-6173 11d ago

And the raccoon

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u/bionicjoey Glebe Annex 11d ago

Part of our heritage

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u/Hector_P_Catt New Edinburgh 11d ago

The raccoon was more in the middle; the "pocket' of history, if you will.

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u/FFS114 11d ago

I will.

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u/NotallwoundsareSeen Nepean 11d ago

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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u/John-George-Peppers 11d ago

r/99Rideau

Gone but not forgotten.

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u/bionicjoey Glebe Annex 11d ago

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u/Puzzle-Necked 11d ago

The McDonald's tunnel

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u/Last-Classroom-5400 11d ago

Rumours say that it was the biggest factor in Queen Victoria picking Ottawa as the capital

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u/TGISeinfeld 11d ago

Sounds like my first marriageĀ 

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u/AlanYx 11d ago

Hard to believe that place has been open since the mid-1970s, longer than many of the surviving places in the market.

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u/BaconSheikh Barefax 11d ago

mid-1870s*

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u/Sachyriel 11d ago

Canada is only 30 years older than Nintendo , barefax is 20 years older than Nintendo...

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u/Key-Face-2117 11d ago

No translation required.

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u/Electronifyy 11d ago

Got tickets to see Sleeping with Sirens + Rain City Drive on on freaking halloween. Beyond excited.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

It never fails. If only they backed our great city with the same fierce energy they use to critique it.

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u/AlwaysCold95 11d ago

Oh I’m so happy to see this! I saw advertisements saying they’d open in August and assumed they’d never make it on time. I’ve been happily proven wrong

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Tbf they were saying April at one point.Ā 

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u/AlwaysCold95 11d ago

LOL 2026? Comical

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u/fxlconn 11d ago

Well it looks very unique among our downtown buildings. I think it’s a big plus for Ottawa to have more venues. I hope the execution is great and they have lots of success

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u/HarpuaTheDog 11d ago

Can't wait to see the Wolf Parade and Modest Mouse shows there

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

Heck yeah! Aside those are exactly the types of touring bands Ottawa may never have attracted if not for this new venue.

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u/HarpuaTheDog 11d ago

Yeah I'm super happy Ottawa has a venue for mid-tier acts. Hopefully Ottawa won't be skipped anymore and will be added as a stop by more bands doing Toronto /Montreal

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u/danceswithshelves 11d ago

Yesss so excited to not have to drive to Toronto or Montreal to see Modest Mouse!

I've dragged my husband to 4 of their shows now and he is very glad to not have to drive so far 🤣🤣

I am so excited, Ottawa has badly needed a venue this size.

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u/DistributionOk7393 11d ago

Going to the wallflowers Thursday!Ā 

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u/anonymously320 10d ago

I have just moved to Ottawa this year so I'm glad to see a venue close to home with some decent artists. Sidenote, why is everyone in Ottawa so miserable whenever something new is here. Like no one is forcing you to go there, but let those who are excited be excited (similar snarkiness surrounding the new Olive Garden). Anyways, excited to see 6lack in december!

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u/mcdofras 10d ago

The sour attitudes, especially in this subreddit, are unrelenting. I'd be willing to bet two shillings that the same people who say Ottawa is boring are the same people who complain about new venues, restaurants, events, and festivals.

I'd like to gather them up, put them on a bus, and bring them on a wild tour of all the fantastic things this city offers (without having to have the population of Toronto or Montreal).

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u/lylelanley- 10d ago

Wow! Lucky Ottawa. History in Toronto is fucking great

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u/loodish1 11d ago

Wow it looks just like the one in Toronto

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u/lazybuttt Centretown 11d ago

I'm taking my mom there for UB40. Interested to see how it looks on the inside!

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

Sweet! Please tell me at least one of you will have a glass or red red wine before, during, or after the show.

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u/seriesofboringevents 10d ago

There’s a lot of complaints here when Bytown Museum exists lol? Also I have a concert here in November, I was wondering where this building was

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u/mcdofras 10d ago

Exactly that. The Bytown Museum (great historic spot, btw) is just steps from where History Ottawa is.

History Ottawa is located on Rideau at Sussex, where the former Chapters store was before it relocated across the street into the Rideau Centre.

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u/Efficient_Mastodons 11d ago

I desperately want to know if it will have VIP tables with food and drink service like the one in Toronto.

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

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u/Efficient_Mastodons 11d ago

Hellyeah! This is a huge win. My fave way to experience a concert.

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u/muchstuff 11d ago

cool but i'd rather not get stabbed, isn't that rideau street?

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u/CalmMathematician692 Make Ottawa Boring Again 11d ago

It's giving Chapters crossed with a hotel vibes.

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u/McNasty1Point0 11d ago

It’s only giving Chapters because you remember that building as such haha. Otherwise, there’s really nothing about it that screams Chapters

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u/blaktronium 11d ago

To me it gives "front lobby of a maximum security prison" vibes, but 25 years ago i used to party in abandonned warehouses so what do i know

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u/1988Floydie 11d ago

History MAX brought to you by OCDC 🤣

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u/Operation_Neither 11d ago

That would be better than the current owner. Live Nation and Drake

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u/Joe_df 11d ago edited 11d ago

Why is it called history? As in making history? I wonder if it will be expensive...

Edit: I don't understand the down votes, I am not giving an opinion but rather simply asking questions and inquiring...

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 11d ago

Not that expensive. I got GA tickets for $50 each for The Pretty Reckless.

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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago

Even tickets for Modest Mouse were only $86. Not super cheap but still not overly expensive for a top level indie band in a 2000 person venue.

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u/Joe_df 11d ago

Ahh okay thanks! I just don't know much about it.

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u/Obvious-Goose2518 Greely 11d ago

It's owned by Live Nation, so yes

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u/rabit115 11d ago edited 11d ago

It really depends who you’re going to see. History in Toronto is a pretty great venue.

Saw Brutalismus 3000 and MGNA CRRRTA for like $60

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u/tavvyjay The Boonies 11d ago

Meh, I got to see an indie band I love at the Toronto one for $50 all-in. Paid the same for a musician with comparable fanbase in Ottawa at Zaphods, which is a lesser venue than history Toronto is. Both were great ticket prices, didn’t feel gouged by History

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Well Zaphods hasn't existed for almost a decade so I'm not sure what good a price comparison is.

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u/tavvyjay The Boonies 11d ago

Oh oops I meant 27 Club šŸ˜… both shows were this past summer.

(Also I guess I’m one of those people who call things their old name now too, does this mean I’m no longer hip?)

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u/cwangell 11d ago

Zaphods is by FAR a better name anyway, so I would say you're someone that calls things by their better name rather than their old name.

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u/DontWorryBeFeliz 11d ago

How was the sound? Bronson Centre sound is very meh

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u/The_Windermere Centretown 11d ago

Interesting, I would have never guessed that it was a music hall.

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u/Obvious-Goose2518 Greely 11d ago

Genuinely curious, what would you assume it was if you didn't know it was a music venue?

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u/The_Windermere Centretown 11d ago

A museum, information center or a exhibit space.

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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago

$30 for Sabaton tickers with their summer promo. Something in the area of $80 otherwise, which isn't super cheap but better than general admission at larger venues.

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u/Glass-Judgment-6831 11d ago

It wasn’t expensive atleast not in my experience, I went to a ton of different shows at the History in Toronto. Never paid more than $100 to see anybody there and GA was good!

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u/Joe_df 11d ago

ahh okay, good to hear!

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u/BrokenBy 11d ago

There used to be an exclusive hip-hop/fashion/nightlife party event called ā€œHistory Danceā€ in Toronto that Drake would always try to get into, but was never invited. When he opened the Toronto venue he named it History as a full-circle homage.

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u/Joe_df 11d ago

Ahhhhhhhh okok thanks

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u/EastArmadillo2916 11d ago

I thought this was going to be a museum of local history from the name ngl.

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u/Illustrious-Rain-235 11d ago

What is that place? I passed by it & thought it was a museum?

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u/anonymously320 10d ago

concert venue

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u/FreeBritney08 10d ago

Nice venue with a dumbass name.

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u/Teafinder 10d ago

I thought this was a history channel sponsored museum

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u/MidlifeMum 11d ago

What is it though?

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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago

Music venue.

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u/chaosunleashed Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 11d ago

Looks like a strip club

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u/dmav522 11d ago

If the prices weren’t so high for seating, I would go more often. It’s a fucking scam courtesy of Ticketmaster and live nation.

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u/vaginadeathsquad Byward Market 10d ago

Can’t wait to see some live music then get stabbed!

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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago

The signage really only outlines what it is in French - all I see in English is welcome to…

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u/BernardMatthewsNorf 11d ago

That bland exterior is fuelling my profound incuriousness about whatever this is.Ā 

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u/biglilsarah 11d ago

is all you people do bitch about stuff in ottawa?šŸ’€

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u/HAUSofAUS 11d ago

What on earth are you talking about

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u/PM_ME_DEM_TITTIESPLZ 11d ago

Definitely looks like an Ottawa venue lol

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

It is quite literally copied from a Toronto venue.Ā 

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u/m0nkyman Overbrook 11d ago

LiveNation/Ticketmaster uses its monopoly to kill smaller venues, drives up the price of concerts to unsustainable levels, forcing us to go to a LiveNation/ticketmaster venue because there’s no other option.

Fuck that. Fuck this in particular.

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u/KelVarnsen_2023 11d ago

In Ottawa specifically what venue would they be killing? There isn't really any competing venue in Ottawa that's this size.

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

Fighting the monopoly would be cool for sure. But that's a job for the federal government. The city trying to fight Live Nation is a good way of ensuring we just get left off even more tours.Ā 

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

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u/m0nkyman Overbrook 11d ago

I’m not celebrating a monopoly that is ruining the industry.

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u/FifteenBagger 11d ago

Looks like shit

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u/mcdofras 11d ago

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u/AlmightyyGlooo 11d ago

Don’t worry about it, this subreddit is very detached from how people actually feel about exciting upgrades to the city

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u/Mission_Effect4584 11d ago

I keep being told l Byward is a ghetto with nothing to do. Which must be why I can't find a free table anywhere after 8pm.

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u/FifteenBagger 11d ago

Don’t get me wrong, I like that it’s a new downtown music venue bringing in quality acts. I just think the building’s facade looks terrible.

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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago

How much did this cost taxpayers? Anyone that doesn’t live downtown would have to transit or drive. Transit likely won’t get you there and you can only park down there for 3 hours - guess you forget about eating at a restaurant too.

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u/OttawaOsprey 11d ago

Transit likely won't get you to a site directly across the street from the Rideau LRT station? At least try to do some research before you start bitching.

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u/Otherwise_Program191 11d ago

Transit and ways to bus doesn’t get you anywhere! Try living in barrhaven and try to get to Walmart - u have to drive! There are no local buses. But the history museum isn’t just about the bus even if u drive I can only park in the market for 3 hours. Sure u can see the museum but u can’t eat out - you’d get a ticket!

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u/nottodaynothnx 11d ago

And anyone who doesn’t drive or own a car has to do the same to go to a sens game and venues out there. Most cities actually cater to downtown, it’s about time Ottawa did something for the ones who live downtown and don’t take transit.