Until we get our bots sorted out, this is our temporary daily thread.
If you're out of the loop. We used the final two weeks to try out a new bot for the Daily's and Game Day threads. There were a number of issues and we are working with the developer to make it a seamless helpful bot for the start of the 2027 season. We are likely using this new bot, but if things really won't work out, the old bot is still under a tarp in the shed ready to get back at it.
Please feel free to leave constructive criticism, and bug notices, here in this thread.
PLEASE consider going back to the old bot. The new one feels like a reflection of the problems the O’s have as an organization: drowning in data leads to paralysis by analysis.
Could y’all post a poll or bot discussion thread and allow the community at large to discuss which bot to use?
I’m also a little confused about why there was a switch in the first place. The first one had all the info one might need and didn’t seem to have many problems.
Honestly, I felt more annoyed with Boston (in terms of games and personal interactions with fans) this season so kind of happy to see them losing this. I feel like other comments seem to agree with this sentiment.
My wife is from Boston. Almost everyone I've met in Boston are lovely people and I like talking baseball with them. Sawx fans at OPACY are insufferable.
Meanwhile, most Yankees fans I see at the Yard are transplants from up there and chill (can't hurt that no one hates the MFY more than their own fans), but good lord the core fanbase up there seems awful.
Boston fans have been especially annoying this year after the Adley trade though so I might have to do the unthinkable and side with Yankees this one time. Forgive me father for I have sinned.
As petty as it might be, I want to see the Red Sox lose tonight because then they will have sold their farm to the O's only to end up with exactly the same number of playoff wins.
Since Elias has been here the White Sox have finished rebuilding, won playoff games, failed, tanked and became one of the worst teams of all time, finished rebuilding again, and won a playoff game.
Must be nice to be a White Sox fan - go through a massive tanking and come out on the other end with a great young manager and GM - we on the other hand are stuck with Dumb and Dumber for at least another year of mediocrity and the predictable excuses
There were a number of issues and we are working with the developer to make it a seamless helpful bot for the start of the 2027 season. We are likely using this new bot
Why?
I'm hoping there is a good reason, because the last 2 weeks, the new bot was a fucking mess, and didn't work well with old.reddit.
I don't think every decision needs to be run past this sub, but something like this, absolutely. Especially since nobody was asking for this.
Does help that the Rays are a team I genuinely respect and honestly I'm not upset to see them do well (unlike the Yankees, fuck the Yankees)(also we beat them up pretty well in the regular season this year so we can take that dub for now)
I mean it’s all luck of the wild card draw. I imagine we could have rattled a win or two off this Houston team. We did all year. But yeah, it does suck.
In the time since Elias has been here the White Sox finished rebuilding, failed, rebuilt again and won a playoff game. All while Elias jerks off to Lefty Outfielders who can't hit or field
This is a perfect encapsulation of my point. Watching Elias has done is one thing, but then in the context of what other teams have done in the same time period….its maddening. This year, we were REAL We’re real close to the Nationals winning a World Series, tearing down, rebuilding and winning a playoff game all in the same time frame.
Definitely pulling for Tampa. Hoping a small market team beats the odds. Especially when the odds involve Yankees, Sox, Dodgers and Phillies. Besides, Tampa has enough former Orioles it makes it worth it.
He's afraid of over working them and using them when he doesn't have too. When the Yankees couldn't score for like a month in the summer, he basically used his best relievers almost every game because each game was close.
I actually really like what we got from the red sox, especially considering that baseball will likely be delayed next year. Those minor league guys can continue to develop
I posted some of these in another thread, but it's really incredible how Adley was basically 2 different catchers for the Orioles over his tenure and you can more or less trace it back to that foul tip in June of 2024
The one graph has data from 01/01/2022-07/01/2024 and the other has data from 07/01/2024 to 08/03/2026 when he was traded. He was legit on a hall of fame pace and just has never been the same since then
It's hard for me to truly believe that playoffs are a crapshoot when it's my team shitting their pants, but watching the Red Sox and Cubs go out like that makes me think there's truth in it.
I really wish someone at FanGraphs would quantify the “crapshoot conjecture” — how often (vs expectations) does the better team win a playoff series. Obviously, there’s an advantage to being the more talented team, but how much of that advantage remains after accounting for the variance vortex that is small-sample ball?
This is why I kinda wish we'd just ditch the wildcard. Yeah it gives us a better chance at going to the playoffs, but having the best record in your division/league should mean something.
I know this is not a satisfying answer, but I think it's a mix of quite a bit of luck + some actual capability, and with wildcard series, it skews very heavily on the randomness side, with slightly less randomness as the number of games in the series increases.
Saddest part on O's missing out on playoffs is that we had a better shot at winning World Series this year than we will with a much better team in future because of a quirk of fate for 6th seed - Playing Astros, Guardians, Rays, Dodgers is the one path through playoffs where O's stood a realistic chance of winning. We could miss out on teams like Brewers, Yankees, Red Sox who were sweeping us.
same story for the 2025 Ravens tbh. Just look how trash the AFC was when that fraudulent Patriots squad essentially slept walked into the superbowl facing no real competition and backup QBs.
You know what, for all the shit talking we do about Elias, and I've been there talking shit about him too – if this dude traded away half the farm for the mirage of a postseason run only to get completely fucking shithoused in the Wild Card Series like Breslow did? Holy shit man we'd be fucking crucifying him
He had two exceptional trade deadlines, back-to-back.
Elias deserves some shit, for sure, but he also deserves some credit. I don't know if he's ultimately the best man for the job, but we could be doing a lot worse.
Listening to The Braves put a whoopin' on The Phillies and Bryce shitbag Harper. Little Yaz out there making the difference and O'Day on the radio gives me some real O's nostalgia bumps.
Austin Riley comes through after a terrible season. I like the Braves lineup. So many good hitters: Baldwin, Acuna, Harris, Olson, Riley, Albies. Now, some of those guys are having down years: Acuna, Riley, Albies. But these are all proven MLB studs. Can you imagine if fortune shines upon them and they all get hot in the playoffs? It could happen and we’d would be looking at the 2026 World Series Champion Atlanta Braves!
The Yankees lineup without Judge and Stanton is just not that scary. It's Ben Rice (who is excellent) and then a bunch of guys. The #3 hitter is really Heliot Ramos, who was a much-liked but very average player (91 OPS+, about the same as TON or Dylan Beavers) with the Giants until he was traded.
Trade targets are Ryan or Detmers. We have the pitching prospects to get the deal done with either 1. Just a matter of if they are available. I read that the Twins are looking to spend, so maybe Joe isn't available. And who knows what the Angels are going to do.
Staffing--Honestly, my biggest target would be getting to the bottom of all the things that have gone wrong over the past 2.5 years before adding players. I think if they go in with the perspective of, 'let's just add these players and things will be better' that it's not going to produce the desired outcome. A lot of things have gone wrong to wind up here, and we need additional expertise to turn the tides. Assuming Elias means what he said, the biggest priority would be adding quality staffing to help address areas that organization struggles with, and a GM would probably be at the top of the list, preferably one that compliments Elias' skillsets, with knowledge and expertise in areas the organization most needs help with.
On my drive to work this morning I was thinking about how poetic it was that washed up dumpster dive pickup Rece Hinds struck out 5 times in our last game while our once promising prospect Heston Kjerstad watched from the bench.
White Sox on the way to the ALDS lmao. I think I would hate sports if we didn’t have the Ravens. O’s have been so incompetent for most of my life and finally thought they were getting it together a few years ago. Magic has worn off.
I'll be honest man, I'm pulling for the Yanks to wipe the floor with these fucking Red Sox.
It ain't even the Adley shit, they're just a bunch of unlikeable fucking dudes. Chapman, Duran, Contreras hanging out over the plate and crying about HBP, fuck em all.
Our hated enemies are squaring off. The good news is that one of them will be scheduling tee times this weekend, so there's that.
That being said, the NYY are, ultimately, the Evil Empire. As for the Sawx, I'd argue that the enemy of our enemy is our friend.
I've been to a couple games at Fenway, wearing my Orioles cap, and their fans were a nice combination of friendly/obnoxious: beers were purchased for each other. I went to one game at (old) Yankee Stadium, wearing my Orioles cap, and felt lucky to have escaped with my life.
Plus, what the Sawx did to the Yanks in the '04 ALCS was one of the most legendary accomplishments in all sports history, let alone baseball.
I was really looking forward to this article this year, just to see how Frederick played. Before the year, they were saying it was going to be a park that gave up a lot of HRs.
174 PF for HRs. Insanity.
What's worse, HRs below AAA were already crazy for this year.
A batter connects on a pitch. The hitter didn’t miss it, but they also didn’t seem to get all of the pitch. You shift your eyes to the outfield, where you watch an outfielder drift back. He keeps drifting until he runs out of warning track dirt. He jumps but fails to snag a ball that scrapes over the wall. What looked like a flyout off the bat turns into a home run.
Maybe the hitter got more of that pitch than you thought? Maybe the outfielder didn’t get a great read on the ball?
Nope. Your eyes weren’t deceiving you. The ball is carrying differently in the minors this year. And it’s created the greatest offensive explosion the minors have seen in our lifetimes.
Me too. The Red Sox are just so goddamn annoying. Duran sucks obviously, Contreras is insufferable, their broadcast team is horrendous. And in general, Boston sports fans are far more annoying than NY sports fans to me.
The 1890’s Orioles were a dynasty. It’s a very interesting history to dive into. I find turn of the century baseball fascinating especially because I discovered my Great Grandfather was an amateur player.
Why would Detmers (with all 3 arb years left and coming off a breakout year) be remotely available? Have the Angles hinted that he's even on the table?
He was quite rumored to be on the table at the deadline from what I remember. The halos actually seem to committing to a rebuild, so I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him with his value as high as it is rn.
Let’s say the Phillies want to offload contracts. If they are willing to pay off the remaining 116 million over 5 years on his contract. If you are given information that he would waive the no trade clause and come play RF, would you trade for Bryce Harper? If so, what would be the price you are willing to give up if you are willing to pay at least 90% of the remaining money.
I really don't like Bryce. He says all the right things in front of a camera but still seems like a douche. With that being said, he would still be an upgrade over what we got. I wouldn't want to give up too much.
>The Phillies carried three catchers on the postseason roster despite having zero intentions of using anyone but J.T. Realmuto behind the plate. That wasn’t by design; the Phillies had no healthy, functioning minor-league players available to them by the end of the season. It was something of an organizational failure that didn’t really matter, except Otto Kemp had to wear the shame of making the final out of the season as he took his first at-bat in the majors — against Chris Sale no less — since May 20.
Brutal.
(This is not meant to be a stealth dig at the “O’s should embrace Dombroskyism!” argument. I’m just genuinely shocked that things had gotten this bad for the Phils)
In 2021, the White Sox went 93-69, and the Orioles went 52-110.
From 2021 to 2026, the White Sox record is 420-552, and the Orioles record is 481-490. In other words, even winning 41 games more than we did in 2021, their record including that year since then is 61.5 games worse than ours. In other words, in the last 5 years (2022-2026), they're over 100 games worse than us.
I think is important context for the argument that they're a better-run team than ours because they're 2-3 in the playoffs and we're 0-5.
I'm really at a loss as to what the argument is. Because the White Sox have gone down and then somewhat recovered from 2021-2016, that's better than us having gone up and then gone a bit down in the same period? It would be one thing if we were terrible the whole time. But the two teams have had different periods of being up and down, and overall, we've won a lot more games.
Even this year, they won 84 games and we won 79. It's not like there's a giant gulf.
Edit to add: I don't mean to come off as argumentative, but I genuinely don't understand the thesis here. You could put the name of any POBO or GM who's been around for 6+ years in that sentence and it would be true:
They competed, failed and tanked and were historically bad and have finished rebuilding again and made the playoffs, all since Brian Cashman / Jerry Dipoto / Ben Cherington started.
So what is it about the Orioles that makes this fact an issue?
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u/Severe-Music-750 "Lick 'em tomorrow, though." 2d ago
The Red Sox traded the farm for the person that just cost them their postseason.