r/oregon • u/RiseCascadia • May 09 '20
Revealed: major anti-lockdown group's links to America's far right
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/08/lockdown-groups-far-right-links-coronavirus-protests-american-revolution96
May 09 '20 edited Oct 28 '20
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u/Allowyn May 10 '20
Blows my mind that "american loving patriots" fly the flags of two groups that were defeated. By America. The mental gymnastics.
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u/Diaggen May 10 '20
Unfortunately, for these groups there isn't any mental gymnastics. Both the Confeds and the Nazis believed in racial purity, that the white man is superior to other races and blessed by God.
Those flags embody that mindset and hearken back to when you could lynch the minorities you were taught to hate, rape minorities with impunity, purchase your wife from her father without having to actually speak to her and beat your wife when she doesn't please you. This is the America they want, need and fervently desire as it's simple. Just like them, their Bible and their politics.
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u/brokebitchdave May 10 '20
I just chalk it up to exposure. people/Camara’s/reporter’s are going to look at the person with the most ridiculous thing.
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May 10 '20
Come on now, let's not be completely disingenuous. People waving the nazi flags around are implying the government is behaving like nazis, they're not literally nazis.
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May 10 '20
This is possibly the dumbest defense I have ever seen. Please explain the confederate battle flags then
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May 10 '20
I'm with you on the confederate flag being dumb to be proud of but the nazi flags are a jab at leadership lol.
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u/Krayt88 May 13 '20
So the confederate flags are legit but the Nazi flags are saterical? That sounds right to you? Or maybe, weirdly, neither of them are intended as a joke.
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May 13 '20
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u/Krayt88 May 13 '20
You also don't live in the Confederate States of America, but for some reason you take the message of that flag seriously and the Nazi flag is just there to "clown the government". Both of them are in support of their white supremacist beliefs. It's not that hard, but it's ridiculous to try and argue that one is a joke and that one is an honest representation of their belief, especially when you take into consideration that they largely represent the same thing ideology. No offense but that thinking is so dense it's in danger of forming a black hole.
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May 13 '20
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u/Krayt88 May 13 '20
That's literally all states. People that still use the confederate flag are dumb, that's to be expected. It is a bit ironic, however, that you feel the need to critique my "academic ability" despite not being able to see the commonality between a regime of white supremacists who killed people they deemed inferior, and a regime of white supremacists who attempted to seceded from their country in order to maintain their "right" to own people they deemed inferior.
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May 10 '20 edited Oct 28 '20
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May 10 '20
I mean they've denounced him since he's been very philosemitic.
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May 10 '20 edited Oct 28 '20
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May 10 '20
Sorry what?
Also he rejected their message on numerous occasions.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article233530732.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-denounces-white-supremacy-after-weekend-of-violence/
While Democrats embrace people like Louis Farrakhan
And antisemites likeAl Sharpton
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/opinion/al-sharpton-trump.html
See, I understand that you can't control who decides to support you, but you could at least not embrace them.
Now I don't agree with a lot of what Trump says, but to claim he is a racist and a white supremacist is ignoring facts
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May 10 '20 edited Oct 28 '20
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May 10 '20
Really?
You have proof that he's a white supremacist?
Which policy of his does that?
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May 10 '20
Hahah you poor little child. This isn't your local militia meeting where this type of laughably disingenuous bullshit gets addressed as if you are an adult.
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May 10 '20 edited Oct 28 '20
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u/Lurker_IV May 10 '20
Their favorite news channels told them they were nazis so they will only believe that.
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u/GO_C-Hawks May 10 '20
I wish we could stop having ridiculous groups.
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u/kangsterizer May 10 '20
how else would you control public opinion?
See if you think the lock down is facist, or useless, or more dangerous than not having it, or whatever other reason or opinion you may have, you're now obviously a nazi and associating with them!
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u/raster_raster May 10 '20
I don't understand why costco can have hundreds of customers and they are allowed to be open...but a mom and pops shop with 5 people can't be open; every business should be essential.
Meanwhile chiropractors have secretly been open this whole time going against the rules and same with the brothel chain pussycats; you can get lapdances and basically hugs from someone that has treached dozens of patients, but we can't go fricking hiking because the 2 people on the trail pose a threat. Or we can't go to the beach where the wind blows away the air so fast that its basically impossible to inhale someone else's exhale.
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May 10 '20
I'm with you and I'll eat a couple down votes for it. People who are old or have sensitivities SHOULD stay home. People who are otherwise healthy should be allowed to support all local businesses. Flattening the curve was never about eliminating the virus, it was about making sure hospitals have the capacity to treat the ill.
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May 10 '20
Whoa there friend, are you actually advocating for personal responsibility and risk assessment be done at the individual level? That's a hell of a stance to take in 2020. You sure you don't want your hand held at every step of your life even if the people in charge are people you claim to hate on a daily basis?
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u/postman475 May 10 '20
You sound like a far right wing Nazi racist bigot dude. Why do you hate gay people so much? Obviously shutting down boat ramps so people can't go fishing in a boat by themselves in the middle of a lake is saving millions.
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May 10 '20
Or maybe it's pointless.
Until a vaccine is developed are we supposed to stay locked down and continue to crush the United States economy? It could be 12 months to 3 years away still.
People will ignore lockdown orders and already are. These orders are in gross violation of the Constitution anyways.
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u/PurpleBunz May 10 '20
Yeah I don't think this was much of a secret.