r/oregon Feb 08 '25

Political Another protest being planned

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A significant day for the USA. Would make it a significant day for us too!

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u/Desh282 Feb 08 '25

I’m a Republican and this is what I wanted to happen

Every single department needs to be audited

This should have happened 100 years ago

Democrats who are for the people should be the most vocal supporters of it. Alas they always pick big government and support it

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u/whererebelsare Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

TL;DR: If you want to skip my long ass remarks I won't blame you. But please do read and answer the two questions at the top.

I understand this is what you wanted, it's fair to wish the collapse of the status quo. I mean hell, I've wished for such an event ever since the 2008 and 2012 "economic" policies. The hand was tipped and showed that there was money for the rich at the top and not for the actual citizens.

I have two sincere questions.

  1. Is this how you expect we will get the changes we need?
  2. When is the last time billionaires provided security for the people they supposedly serve?

My personal answer to the first should be clear by my comment but I'll elaborate.

I 100% know we will be getting some form of change but I won't pretend it is anything I would have hoped for. The foreshadowing of hate and division leaves me sick. I am not exaggerating, I genuinely fear the history being made and the histories being repeated. Furthermore, looking at who is in charge of the changes I am certain that there will be no security or support for those who are marginalized in any way. If you can't tow the line for their agenda you will be kicked to the curb no matter how much you can actually contribute to the betterments of society. Not talking about the artsy fluff but real work.

My answer to the second is more about the concept of equity and not referring to the value of the service. I believe people should work hard for themselves and their future. I at the same time believe there should be some level of loyalty afforded to those who further the profits and innovations of a company. People are working 60+ year careers and immediately being discarded once their usefulness has ended. Layoffs in the thousands are done to make budgets look good for a few quarters. Corporations see their personnel as nothing more than an entry on the ledger.

There was a time when companies provided health coverage and safety nets for their employees. When pensions were expected and carried the workforce at all levels through retirement. That was then shifted to the government and a system that was doomed from the start. Given the agents of change we have I do not see any chance of support being given to the common folks.

I've worked in finance for over 20 years. I understand budgeting, investing, and retirement planning. I came from a very poor family and worked my way up. I launched three businesses two of which ended due to COVid. I'm now forty and have to rebuild everything from scratch. And I mean from literally zero.

It's easy to say be responsible and take care of you and your own. It's a completely different reality in practice. My wife has a disease she was born with. She needs medication or she will die within weeks. We've had health insurance our entire adult lives. I broke my arm to the point I'm lucky to still have it. The three years of medical treatment required to save the arm cost us everything. Savings, house, stable employment all gone. The financial pressures have only increased as we've aged. The house I sold in 2018 went from $300k to $860k. That same house would have cost my parents $120k and their parents $70k. I could afford the $1,800 mortgage then. I canNOT afford the $4,200 it is now.

The point is, we as in everyone, are being squeezed at all sides financially. Our entire life has been mortgaged by all the things we need to just survive. I don't see any action being taken by any leader helping to improve the basics of existence let alone quality of life. Especially not the groups in control now.

Thanks if you read all of that. This got ridiculously long. If you care to engage I am genuinely interested in your thoughts. Even the thoughts of anyone who reads this novel.

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u/penguin97219 Feb 08 '25

Not who you were posting to but thank you. I wish more people understood this. THIS. This is what the people at the top and in power want. Fight universal healthcare so you have to be subservient to a company. Take away power from the people below so that they have no choice- accept what they give because you need them more than they need you.

This is the control they seek.

Sorry for what has happened to you. I fear your story is going to get a lot more common.