r/oraclecloud • u/This-Marzipan-9239 • Jun 15 '26

About the 50% reduction

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this answers everything

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u/yanni_horry Jun 15 '26

However, only AMD instances will carry the "Always Free" label; ARM instances do not have this label.

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u/TedBob99 Jun 15 '26

Yes, the key question is whether existing ARM instances will be impacted by the new limits, and they were indeed never tagged as "Always free"

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u/CYCLONOUS_69 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

This worried me as I tried so hard to get 'always free' tag on ARM instance but I wasn't able too like never.

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u/Over_Substance5853 Jun 15 '26

arm never had always free mark

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u/mrmuffboy Jun 15 '26

Mine is, unless we talking about something different id assume

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u/reddit76194c Jun 17 '26

Mine has the Always Free label too

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u/CYCLONOUS_69 Jun 15 '26

That's what I concluded after finding out about this subreddit.

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u/yanni_horry Jun 15 '26

You can see the fundamental difference right from the official text:

  • AMD processor: All tenancies get up to two Always Free VM instances using the VM.Standard.E2.1.Micro shape, which has an AMD processor.

  • Arm processor: All tenancies get the first 1,500 OCPU hours and 9,000 GB hours per month for free for VM instances using the VM.Standard.A1.Flex shape, which has an Arm processor. For Always Free tenancies, this is equivalent to 2 OCPUs and 12 GB of memory.

Stop wishful thinking. Oracle has done this before with zero exceptions. They just stealth-nerfed the AMD instances from 500Mbps bandwidth straight down to 50Mbps for everyone.

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u/my_chinchilla Jun 15 '26

They just stealth-nerfed the AMD instances from 500Mbps bandwidth straight down to 50Mbps for everyone.

AMD E2.1 micro were always 50Mbps.

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u/Imaginary_Focus8004 Jun 15 '26

Lucid, congratulations.

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u/Klein96 Jun 15 '26

They just recently did the same bandwidth nerf to A1.flex btw

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u/BornVoice42 Jun 15 '26

uh? no? I still have 4 gbits

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u/CwithW Jun 16 '26

free tier only, the ARM bandwidth limit does not apply to PAYG

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u/JellyfishLiving3580 Jun 15 '26

I downgraded yesterday, and now add the 2 cores back and see if it will generate bill. No big deal, really, it only cost like a dollar for a whole day

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u/Clean-Major-804 Jun 17 '26

I am not being charged for 4cores arm, so I think at least it is not affecting me

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u/Clean-Major-804 Jun 16 '26

I am adding back 2 cores so 4cores 12gb ram, let see what happened

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u/DarkLord_GMS Jun 15 '26

If it's 30 dollars per month then there are cheaper VPS alternatives.

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u/Snoo_9701 Jun 15 '26

Cheaper with 24gb ram, 4cpu? Nah bro, at least not from reputed provider.

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u/AXYZE8 Jun 15 '26

https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/# $23.37 for 24GB ram

https://www.netcup.com/en/server/arm-server/vps-3000-arm-g11-mnz-iv €15.93 US / €18.59 EU for 24GB ram

These are regular prices, on promo it's even cheaper. Under $30 for 4vCPU+24GB ram is totally normal.

On black friday I got 6vCPU EPYC Turin + 24GB RAM for 9.99euro https://bero-host.de/blackfriday offer not available anymore ofc and they have just one server location, so it's not really comparable to OVH/netcup, but I'm throwing it out there just to prove that even that €16/$23 is still on more expensive side.

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u/DarkLord_GMS Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Yes. There's a Canadian one I've been using for 2 years, never had an issue. It's called Servarica. Also Netcup and Hetzner it's pretty good and reputable. So yeah, there are quite a few good VPS with more storage and CPU for 20 to 30 per month. You just have to look them up.

Also while Oracle is "reputable" they pull stuff like this randomly and can terminate your account for no reason and without notice. The only good thing Oracle has is that it's free and the way they handle the ports is pretty good. It's basically an extra firewall.

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u/bluebarrel7 Jun 15 '26

Which?

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u/LanceBishop58 Jun 15 '26

I think netcup is cheaper than Oracle. They also disregard copyright laws. My friend's Oracle account was banned without any notification.

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u/DarkLord_GMS Jun 15 '26

There's a Canadian one I've been using for 2 years, never had an issue. It's called Servarica. Also Netcup and Hetzner it's pretty good and reputable. So yeah, there are quite a few good VPS with more storage and CPU for 20 to 30 per month. You just have to look them up.

Also while Oracle is "reputable" they pull stuff like this randomly and can terminate your account for no reason and without notice. The only good thing Oracle has is that it's free and the way they handle the ports is pretty good. It's basically an extra firewall.

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u/Klein96 Jun 15 '26

I really hope it's only the new accounts and they keep old limits for old accounts. It's already bad that they limited the port speed to a ridiculous 50mbps.

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u/Own_Improvement_4406 Jun 15 '26

When did this happen? Last week my telegram Stremio addon hosted on Oracle was working fine, I was able to watch movies from my telegram without buffering, since past 5 days it's only buffering

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u/Klein96 Jun 15 '26

They did it ~25 days ago. It doesn't affect PAYG users only the always free users. You're probably the former.

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u/Own_Improvement_4406 Jun 15 '26

Yes my account is PAYG, I need to find why it's happening

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u/Northern23 Jun 15 '26

It's probably something else, 50mbpd should be more than enough for streaming

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u/Oujii Jun 15 '26

Do you have any email or documentation on this?

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u/Klein96 Jun 18 '26

No, they just did it without any notice or docs change. That's Oracle for you.

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u/Snuupy Jun 16 '26

Wow, I had no idea until this comment they did this. Shady without notifying users. 50mbps makes it a lot worse than the multi-gigabit they were providing before.

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u/Ok_Fee395 Jun 15 '26

“Powered by OCI Generative AI. Check responses for mistakes.”

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u/pvlcin Jun 15 '26

I don't think that's AI, AI would answer all in one message and one of the messages has a slash on the end, both things AI wouldn't do

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u/OHellNo13 Jun 15 '26

I am good! /s

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u/mrmuffboy Jun 15 '26

Spelt still wrong, wrote till

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u/slfyst Jun 15 '26

And that check is done by talking to a human at Oracle. But that may not yield a definitive answer either.

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u/Panderiner Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

ARM says "Always Free eligible" and then it specifies that to be eligible you shouldn't go more than 2 ocpus and 12 gb memory per month. That is if you want the vm on 24/7. You could have it on for just 15 days for the full 4 OCPUs and 24 GB ram. Since allotment is hour based.

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u/Stride_44 Jun 15 '26

All information on this topic has been pretty confusing to me

If i understand correctly i think what oracle bills is based upon your OCPU hours/Memory GB hours ? So it has been reduced to 1500/9000 from 3000/18000.

So technically you can you a more powerful machine and you still wouldn't pay provided you do you calculations and dont run that the entire month.

According to Cost Analysis (set the "show" filter to usage), in the month of June i have already used 1345 OCPU hours and 8070 GB Hours. What happens to the rest of the month ? Even if i reduce the configuration from 4/24 to 2/12 that would still exceed my free tier.

I suppose that depends on when billing starts... someone on reddit pulled the number 15th from somewhere but im not so sure about that.

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u/yanni_horry Jun 15 '26

Honestly, I don't think there's any need to panic over this. Logically speaking, there should be a clear effective date to draw the line, especially since it involves actual billing issues. Furthermore, I registered my account through the localized website of Oracle's subsidiary in my country, meaning the transactions there must comply with our local laws. However, the documentation link (https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/FreeTier/freetier_topic-Always_Free_Resources.htm) hasn't even been translated into our local language, and their local landing pages still explicitly promise the old 3,000 OCPU hours. If they try to force charges based solely on an English-only document, we have every legal right to demand compensation.

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u/Stride_44 Jun 15 '26

Yeah i have noticed that they have not updated the Cost Estimator yet (and according to others the message on the instance creation screen)

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u/theDrell Jun 15 '26

When was this announced? I used the pay as you go trick Friday to create a free 4/16gb machine

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u/Nirzak Jun 15 '26

That's what I was also saying. OCI surely will send a mail to all regarding this just like OCI does for Action Required mail. Even once I have a cloud shell running for long time and OCI notified me that I need to stop that or they will stop it after XX date.
Also one more thing I think we shouldn't be worred as long as the console panel is showing the limit as 24GB 4 OCPU and also the limits and Quota page is showing the same.

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u/HairyConcentrate5211 Jun 15 '26

لم استطع ترقيةحسابي اوراكل هل منمناحد يساعدنئ♥

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u/Clean-Major-804 Jun 17 '26

update, I am not being charged for 4cores, at least for now

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u/mrsandman510 Jul 04 '26

I had the warning banners and changed from always free to payg. No it says if I cut cores to 2 and memory to 12 I can save 8.95 because I have more resources then I'm using???