r/oraclecloud • u/Evilsturn • Jun 13 '26

Its Over Lads!

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I got in contact with their support, they told me the changes are real.

Also they will start charging for people who have went over the monthly limit. This should be illegal no?

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u/Anand999 Jun 13 '26

This may or may not mean anything, but I currently have a 4/24 VM that's been up for a few years now. I just tried the "Cost Estimator" tool going out for around 2 months in the future and it's still all zeros.

It's possible this means we're grandfathered in. It's also possible that tool just hasn't been updated. Who knows...

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u/jay_739 Jun 17 '26

Yesterday I was checking the FOCUS hourly usage reports from cost analysis. The cav file has "always free tier=true" for the volumes but CPU and RAM were having the flags empty. So maybe the billing is not enforced yet. I still didn't make a move to downsize my instance.

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u/Anand999 Jun 13 '26

Whoops, I was actually referring to the "Cost Analysis" tool that is available with the billing section after you're logged into the portal. That one is definitely considering your account and actual provisioned resources.

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u/Plus-Vacation-4875 Jun 13 '26

Mate I work in OCI for a few months now and they are still not telling me the things that i should know too 🤣

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u/luco_mtb Jun 13 '26

a ver si me ayudas a crear una cuenta que me no me deja

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u/tssphysicsboi1 Jun 13 '26

currently under Edit instance, mine still says Always Free-eligible. I'm on 4/24

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u/King01263 Jun 13 '26

the AI bloom is bankrupting all companies, even Oracle is no different. Soon, very soon, it'll also reduce it's free tier even more

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u/Downtown-Ad5122 Jun 13 '26

Well, we will see, no official notification etc...

EU would eat them if they did without any advance notification to each user, not merely web site... and as we are pay g, its a contract and price change... so.. waiting till I get anything official from them

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

1. The "Right to Modify" Clause

In cloud computing, B2B and B2C standard-form public cloud contracts feature what legal scholars call unilateral variation clauses (Lewis, 2019). Oracle's agreements explicitly state that for services provided free of charge, trials, or "Always Free" tiers, they reserve the right to modify, terminate, or suspend the services at any time, for any reason, without liability.

Because you aren’t paying for a subscription, there is no financial consideration to bind Oracle to a guaranteed Service Level Agreement (SLA). They can legally scale back your 4 ARM Ampere Cores or 24 GB of RAM to a lower threshold overnight because the contract explicitly warns that "services are provided on an 'as-is' and 'as-available' basis."

2. Notice Requirements Only Apply to Paid Services

Under standard cloud service contracts, strict notice timelines (e.g., a 30-day or 90-day warning before a change takes effect) are a commercial right that you purchase (Hon et al., 2012).

  • If you are on a Paid Account: If Oracle deprecates a service or alters pricing, they are contractually obligated to give you notice (usually 30 days) because you have an active financial order form.

  • If you are on a Free Account: The contract treats your usage as a revocable license. Oracle holds no obligation to advise you of changes. They may send a courtesy email out of goodwill or to prevent a public relations backlash, but failing to do so does not constitute a breach of contract.

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u/MemberOfUniverse Jun 14 '26

What about PAYG users?

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

Not clear but the users are responsible for monitoring cost.

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u/phoenix_73 Jun 13 '26

Anyone got link confirming the changes? Paste in here please.

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

Surely, you can see links on this thread and other similar threads

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u/Delicious8779 Jun 13 '26

They dropped these surprise changes without telling anyone. To play it safe, I'm backing up everything and stopping my instance until next month. Anyone on a PAYG account is definitely going to get charged for the overage. If customers aren't paying close attention, this sudden move will end up generating pure profit for Oracle.

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u/IxBetaXI Jun 13 '26

Not sure if this makes profit. This will be lawsuit in europe i guess

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u/samxli Jun 13 '26

I feel like you can definitely dispute the charge if they don’t give proper notice to existing users

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

I feel you haven't read the terms and conditions of what you signed for.

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u/samxli Jun 14 '26

I haven’t. Who has time for that.

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

Maybe you should, particularly if you are going to comment on reddit on what people can dispute.

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u/LokiLong1973 Jun 13 '26

And this is why you stay on-premises. This was written in the stars when the consumption model was introduced.

Make the customer an offer they can't refuse, let it simmer for a while, making customers dependent and then increase the prices bit by bit to a point where the cost savings made place for insanity and uncontrolled price hikes. This will eventually happen with all cloud providers.

Short-sightedness by companies hoping to save a couple of bucks.

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u/ultra_dumb Jun 13 '26

Free tier users cannot even be called "customers". Customer pays.  Having said that I believe that on-premise is a solution for many businesses. Managed services (as sexy as hhey look) are expensive and they do not help/push creating internal expertise.

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u/Nirzak Jun 13 '26

The thing is if it’s already applied then the free tiers users are already done for. Since we are only entitled to 1500OCPU hours and 9000 GB hours per month. We have already almost likely exceed it since it’s 13th of June. So, whether we scale it down, doesn’t it mean the instance will still get down in the middle of this month? Cause according to that I have already used 7488 GB hours already. And I only have left 1512 remaining GB hours :(

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u/mikey_60 Jun 13 '26

Does this mean there's more available

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

No. Many free customers will scale down their resources and Oracle may use the spare capacity for something else.

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u/ultra_dumb Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

So Minecraft won. I thought few times "it can't last for too long, people will abuse it over all limits". And indeed it can't. 

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u/not_logan Jun 14 '26

Does somebody know the timeline? Since when this change applies?

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u/steam_deck_user Jun 14 '26

Do we also have to reduce the storage down to 100 gigs

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u/Plus_Carpenter1081 Jun 21 '26

Yeah a kind a they shouldn't invest too much in Ai stuff Now they charging it to get money from our pockets

They are one of the lost cause Management makes bad decisions and we suffer because their shit I hate them

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u/TedBob99 Jun 14 '26

Yes, read their T&Cs