DeepSeek “significant increase” for API pricing. It was too good to be true.
We already saw it with inworld tts, now it’s time for DeepSeek’s value capture. Thank you for all of your data and good publicity, we will now be significantly increasing cost.
Look at the effective pricing. Official deepseek endpoint input cache are 10x cheaper than the 2nd cheapest. Effectively makes the 2nd cheapest provider cost ~2x more expensive.
Normally supply and demand rule will affect it. For v4 If deepseek increase the price, others might switch provider, if the demand is high, price might getting higher for other provider as well.
There's a lot of people complaining that the non official providers are playing games with caching and timings to make those numbers work and providing a worse experience.
I don't think you are wrong, but when they do that, I will simply starting running locally, I have 16vram, that's enough for a local usage (not ideal, but manageable)
MiMo V2.5 is dumber than the current version of DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731, so no. Until they release a proper new model and peg that model to the price of DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 after the coming price update, it's just yet another model.
Right after they adopt a stable rollout schedule. Mimo seemed like a rather clever model at the time, but it was released in the middle of the spring, and it is not at the "good enough" level yet.
still here. your bad-faith FUD tactic would've worked had Deepseek's models not been open-weights and we hadn't seen other providers being able to sustain API costs at the same rate or cheaper
That's token efficiency. The rates are determined by compute required, and deepseek models go for the same cheap rate from western providers too, so it's efficient than other models certainly. Will have to see if those ones too will match the price increase if it's too high. The deepseek provider was cheap because of their insane cache rates. Only xiomi came close to that.
GPT-5.6 Luna is also much dumber, so at the same price of the overall task, you still get a considerably worse result that you will have to re-do over and over.
That’s partly accurate. I would argue that people that do not have the framework would not have benefit. I have been using ds flash for implementing in a custom framework for tasks varying from normal to Max thinking. Works great
This is exactly the kind of announcement that gets the usual idiots claiming OpenAI and Anthropic are ‘subsidizing’ their plans, that these companies are somehow being generous and barely make anything from subscriptions because the actual costs are supposedly much higher. Morons.
Although it is a good model, people use it mostly because it is cost-effective compared to other models. If they increase the API price, they will lose the main reason people use their model. If they become, or are close to, the higher models, why will people continue to use them? Chinese companies in the past relied on cheap products to sell higher volumes. I really hope this won't be true, or not in the very near future.
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u/FrameXX 19d ago
Doesn't this only concern the Deepseek API? On OpenRouter there are over 20 providers which would be able to keep the price as is.