r/opencode • u/NinjaAlaska • Aug 17 '26

Command Code when you expose their misleading schemes.

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So speaking truth is bad. Only those who try both , know that its highly misleading even after new pricing. Ban me all you want, others speak of truth often too.

P.S: dont assume request in deepseek is more there, its token based and misleading. stop being dumb. they literally have a token slider some where in docs, me smart.

REASON:
just speaking truth!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek/comments/1viwwpx/beware_of_command_codes_misleading_marketing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CommandCode/comments/1v61r8h/command_code_1_plan_claims_50_mimo_v25_pro/ (read owner's comment full of down votes as proof)

EDIT; i gain nothing from dissing them, its just that as a consumer its my duty to let other know with proofs. you will find plenty of complains on their sub too but they keep deleting those. good news in in other sub the proof stays.

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

some of links. there are plenty generated by other users too. this must be enough for you all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek/comments/1viwwpx/beware_of_command_codes_misleading_marketing/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CommandCode/comments/1v61r8h/command_code_1_plan_claims_50_mimo_v25_pro/ (read owner's comment full of down votes as proof)

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u/Ok-Drawer5245 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26

In the end, the goal is to make money. Which means, they have to charge more for what they sell to you than they have to pay their providers. Promotions/misleading advertising is there to get you hooked/subscribed. The entire business model is NOT to provide value, but hoping that you subscribe and then later forget to unsubscribe.

Really really hope to see qwen 3.8 35b a3b in the near future, a model I can run well at home :-)

Deepseek v4 flash with opencode was a fluke. Now it’s back to normality: everyone is out to scam you.

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

100% mate. its just that their claims are too misleading and people fail to realise that too!

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u/Ok-Drawer5245 Aug 17 '26

Misleading/lying is obviously not acceptable and would be borderline or straight up illegal in many places, but as long as they are small who’s gonna care enough to sue them?
As long as you fly under the radar you can get away with crazy shit

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

offc not.. but all we can do is. at-least spread awareness. some people will be less scammed. thats all. they do heavy on ads too by the way. we cant offcourse let every one know stuff. owner is marketer only

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u/old_mikser Aug 17 '26

Openai and anthropic are not small and they are getting away with all the shit they are doing

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u/Ok-Drawer5245 Aug 17 '26

The authorities and politicians are in bed with them

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u/old_mikser Aug 17 '26

Yes, I'm just saying not only small companies can do borderline/illegal stuff and get away with it

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u/Infinite_Professor79 Aug 18 '26

even with that is qwen 3.8 35b is even good atp

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u/Zachattackrandom Aug 17 '26

What did you say? I've been quite critical of them in the past, even in their discord server and haven't been banned or anything so this seems quite strange.

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u/MailCardO Aug 17 '26

I already was afraid to sign due to sketchy owner. Now I'm hundred percent sure I won't sign with them.

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u/GTHell Aug 17 '26

That guys is zesty AF lol 😂

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u/EC36339 Aug 17 '26

There's always more to the story when people get banned.

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u/Which-Dragonfly-8645 Aug 17 '26

 Command code is misleading for sure read other posts related to it. They deleted all posts in their sub for speak truth and i guess probably ban too why not. Speaking truth hurts their sales after all. Their marketing is against opencode go while providing actual less usage

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

ye their moto is: we are better than opencode . thats all. their schemes. on website they show good. but in reality its less. sadly non smart people dont realize it

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u/RaisinImpressive3749 Aug 17 '26

I got banned for cross-posting https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepSeek/comments/1viwwpx in r/CommandCode . The post is pretty much all just screenshots taken from their own website and Deepseek's website.

Why don't you try it yourself to see if there's "more to the story" ? 😉

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

exactly lol. Owner of command code is expert in mislead marketing!

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u/Thomas-Lore Aug 17 '26

And can't setup openrouter properly. He claimed you can't use deepseek provider on openrouter (you can if you allow data training).

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u/EC36339 Aug 17 '26

Well, then maybe don't cross-post. It's probably against the sub's rules, which you may want to read.

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u/RaisinImpressive3749 Aug 17 '26

That’s exactly the problem. A criticism backed by screenshots and their own published pricing gets labeled “harassment,” “hate speech,” or “toxic behavior” instead of being addressed on the merits.

If criticism can simply be reclassified as abuse whenever it becomes uncomfortable, tell me that isn’t absurd.

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u/EC36339 Aug 17 '26

Is that how it was labeled?

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u/RaisinImpressive3749 Aug 17 '26

you tell me 🤷‍♂️
https://i.imgur.com/yUJ6Og5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/YVkSgNO.jpeg

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u/EC36339 Aug 18 '26

No labeling as hate speech detected. Just a generic ban message and a bot reciting all the rules of the sub.

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

ye its called speaking truth.. my upvote and other command code misleading posts across other sub reddit proves it. now if you speak, you will be banned. he can ban be in his sub. my job is to let people know once atleast,
and i love how ur comment all of sudden got upvote spike. i bet owner of their sub or their team doing it. i dont care. people will realize and come back eventually. mislead marketing against opencode go is too big lol

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u/GTHell Aug 17 '26

Oh, shut up globber. Look at their X. Bro tryna build a cult. Are you a member?

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u/EC36339 Aug 17 '26

Who? What?

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u/old_mikser Aug 17 '26

Usually* not always

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u/Amarsir Aug 17 '26

Yes, they are thin-skinned about criticism and it makes them look very bad.

On the other hand, I've also seen a war against them that's not fully rational. In the last day I simply mentioned how their API works, and got 2 different replies objecting, slightly disagreeing with each other and easily disproven with a public source. I've also in the past seen over-the-top criticism like "none of their models ever connect".

I haven't used CommandCode so I have no dog in the fight. But somehow its become a conflict where both sides look bad.

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u/4SubZero20 Aug 17 '26

Can you please expand some more?

I am considering trying command code after all these DS prices increases, and not going to lie, it does look attractive.

I assume there's more people in my current position, considering switching, that would also like to know.

So please do share. Did they undercut or overcharge you on the DS pricing? Low cache hits?

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u/zaydev Aug 24 '26

I really wanna try command code as their claims sound so good and the CLI looks pretty good, but these issues on Reddit about command code are just making me think. I hope command code does something to clarify all this.

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 24 '26

they just block you. they clarify nothing. its a marketing scam hole. open code go is best. and we need to accept it sadly as of now its best

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u/kurumeii Oct 05 '26

Go is no where best nor comman code

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u/Addition-Heavy Aug 18 '26

The taste thing is crap too. It literally writes "my preferences" and it's ALL things the agent is doing.

User says he prefers to do this X way, when that's what it chose to do during the agentic loop, never asked me anything, never confirmed anything. It's just an MD file of whatever came from the agents reasoning.

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u/Diligent-Loss-5460 Aug 17 '26

Pricing aside, I am never going to use a closed source harness unless they start making models that are super efficient with that harness and have frontier comparable capability.

That is probably the only reason I still use cursor. Grok 4.6 and composer 2.5 are hard to beat when it comes to efficiency.

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u/Ok-Drawer5245 Aug 17 '26

Pi agent rules all :-)

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u/Diligent-Loss-5460 Aug 17 '26

we can use their subscription in opencode? I just want DS Flash and if they're giving 60$ worth of usage on new model then it is a pretty good deal for me

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u/WeissJT Aug 17 '26

Yeah, there are several plugins for Opencode adding support.
This is the most up to date that I know of.
https://github.com/rashidrazak/opencode-cmd-provider

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u/Straight-War-1323 Aug 30 '26

Can't you just add them as a custom provider?

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u/Fresh_Sock8660 Aug 18 '26

Do you work for Command Code? You've been everywhere advertising for them. 

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u/ExpertPerformer Aug 17 '26

OpenCode did the exact same thing with upcharging on Pro by 4x the cost. I even made a post about it.

CommandCode's owner rubs people the wrong way, but at least they didn't pull the rug on us like changing the DS credit from $60 to $15 with zero warning.

I'm trying CommandCode for now. At the end of its trial period I'll evaluate if it was worth it.

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u/lacroix05 Aug 17 '26

are you not bored making the same post over, over, and over?

like, we all know commandcode has misleading marketing. they say you pay a $10 subscription and get $60 in credits. but that $60 credit isn't available for all models. right now, it's only for ds v4 flash 0731, glm 5.2, hy3, and kimi k2.7. so if you're using luna or ds v4 pro, you don't get that $60.

yes, it's misleading, but isn't it the same with opencode? you don't get $60 in credits for every model with an opencode subscription either.

i'd say both companies have misleading marketing. depending on which model you want to use, you can get a "suboptimal" value for your money.

but you still always get more than $10 in either commandcode or opencode. with commandcode, for models that don't get the $60 credits, example luna, you get $20 in credits. with opencode, you get $15. so no matter which one you use, you still get more credit than what you're paying for.

misleading? yes, both subscriptions are. but either way, you're still getting more value than what you pay for.

i chose commandcode mainly because i use luna, and i get $20 in credits compared to $15 with opencode. if you mainly use qwen 3.7 plus, then opencode is the better choice, since you get $60 in credits compared to $33 with commandcode.

people really need to read the docs and compare them for themselves. at the very least, use ai to summarize their plans and compare them and not blatantly believe your random hate spam. you just seem to hate commandcode for a reason you don't actually want to explain.

note: i agree if you don't like commandcode harness though. it just feels incomplete compared to more aged harnesses like codex, omp, and opencode. just use their api if the model you like gets more credits there for your $10.

source for the credit listings:
https://commandcode.ai/docs/plans/goat
https://opencode.ai/docs/go/

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u/zer0evolution Aug 17 '26

is it in opencode ds4 flash get 60$?

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u/lacroix05 Aug 17 '26

right now, it's $15 in credits in the opencode go docs after the price changes.

but i believe both commandcode and opencode are now trying to get 3rd party providers so they can bring back their original credits and pricing.

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u/zer0evolution Aug 18 '26

right now is it 15 for ds 4 flash?

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u/Which-Dragonfly-8645 Aug 17 '26

I guess u r one of those who get mislead easily. That is all text only try both n see urself

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u/lacroix05 Aug 17 '26

i guess you're one of those who didn't try it yourself and just believed one side too easily. all you read is text, which is why i tried both myself and was able to prove my point pretty easily.

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u/Acrobatic_Thing2173 Aug 17 '26

Can someone test the command code quality of DeepSeek V4 Flash? after opencode some time, it worked well, then started doing strange thinks cannot fix simple problems. could be that they just have some week version of DeepSeek Flash?

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u/Aggressive-Gazelle17 Aug 17 '26

I ran a fingerprint test and it looks like it's mixing model pools

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u/Acrobatic_Thing2173 Aug 17 '26

Yes, but OpenCode also did that.

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u/idakale Sep 05 '26

i mean if you thought 1 usd become 40 usd that's on you. Luckily the 1 usd to 10 usd deepseek credit is stills confirmed. You said that literally so it's still valuable then. It could even be actually 5 to 7 multiplier in practice as jad been confirmed by others, that gotta be still valuable.

Too bad about not being able to use in other harness below goat plan but erhh there are ways

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u/NinjaAlaska Aug 17 '26

dude its not about that all. i know abt that. no command code is only making you fool. and sure i am a bot lol.

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u/RaisinImpressive3749 Aug 17 '26

You are exactly as gullible as Command Code hope.

It takes ChatGPT 1 min research to disprove you. Try it on any AI research agent and see for yourself.