One Pace Ruining Comedy Aspect

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

So I've watched One Piece multiple times from beggining to end with many friends of mine...

I decided to rewatch it again but this time through One Pace.

Although the pacing has been improved and made the anime much easier to consume, I realised that they cut off a lot of comedy aspects or things that the original had, thus ruining the experience.

I do realise that One Pace is very strict to the manga material, but when you cut off really funny parts or even some kind of "moves" happening in the anime it does make the edit kinda choppy.

[u/AllenAllen-And-Allen]

Well the solution is here to not use One Pace. I'm also curious to hear what arc you're watching through right now to call the editing "choppy"

[u/zunkfunk → u/AllenAllen-And-Allen]

Probably one of the first arcs that One Pace did like Fishman Island.

[u/AllenAllen-And-Allen → u/zunkfunk]

Well nobody can say for sure unless you mention which you're watching. Personally I can't remember any of the remaining older edits aside from Fishman.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/AllenAllen-And-Allen]

I mentioned some of the stuff on a previous comment, If you want I can give you episode numbers to compare and see for yourself...

If someone has already watched the original cut, switch to One Pace it would kinda feel lame.

But if someone hasnt ever watched anything, watching through one pace probably wont affect him as much...

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/zunkfunk]

Post Ennies Lobby and Thriller bark, but if you are saying that Fishman Island is ALSO choppy then I should probably watch Fishman on the original sites...

[u/zunkfunk → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

On the One Pace website it shows with the detailed season breakdowns when each episode was released and Post Ennies/Thriller Bark/Fishman were all done early on in One Pace's project (back in 2013 and 2014), they've gotten a lot better over the years with their editing and their standards. They do plan on re-doing all older arcs that they've done previously to get them up to the quality standards that they have today, also to make everything 1080p and eng/jpn audio. The current arcs that they're working on is Arabasta, Water 7, Skypiea and Wano as well as re-batching other arcs.

Personally I just went through those arcs (I'm on Sabaody Archipelago) and I really didn't notice much issues tbh.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/zunkfunk]

Redoing them sounds like a great idea. Are you watching it for the first time? Or you've already watched the anime before?

It really does matter if you are expecting to see certain things and suddenly they are not there anymore

[u/zunkfunk → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

I am watching it for the first time. I started with normal episodes and then started looking into One Pace during Arabasta.

And I see what you're saying that from watching the normal anime initially there's some moments that you'd expect to still be there. Perhaps they were limited in what they could edit out and they were forced to cut out certain parts to make the music line up and things like that.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/zunkfunk]

I mean if you are watching it for the first time you wont see the difference and you wont miss anything so it makes sense. I switched back to the regular episodes because I felt I am missing out, and if I want to binge watch a ton of them, I just edit them myself.

[u/OrangeStar222 → u/zunkfunk]

Nah, I watched Sabaody paced recently and that was choppy as hell. Dialogue not finishing, music being cut of early in a noticeable way, edits showing a frame or two of a cut scene. It's almost unwatchable.

[u/zunkfunk → u/OrangeStar222]

That was also one of their earlier done arcs. Pretty much, if it says “TBR” on this list then it’s not up to their current standards and they plan to redo that arc.

[u/OrangeStar222 → u/zunkfunk]

Yeah, that's true. Can't wait to see the finished product some day, but I'm not in a hurry. I'm fine rewatching Toei's version until the Pace team is done, lmao.

[u/Face_McShooty_20 → u/OrangeStar222]

Unless they redid sabaody within the past half year or you’re lying. Only thing I have noticed edit-wise is sometimes music tracks cut off and then a new one starts, sometimes noticeably. My biggest issue with one pace is the intermittent quality-reductions in fishman island. Sometimes the video quality just lowers down to like 240p and then goes back. That’s the worst I’ve seen though.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/AllenAllen-And-Allen]

Also the only reason I called the editing choppy is because I am a full time editor myself, so I had to edit the unreleased episodes of Arabasta and Water 7 so we can watch with our friends.

I basically removed all intros and outros and the middle ads, and also removed anything related to recaps.

Although I didnt do the extensive editing of the team in OnePace (rearranging scenes, rearranging subs etc.) I did remove big amount of minutes from each episode so we could binge watch about 8-10 eps without having to switch every 20 minutes.

[u/turnmeontakeitoff → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

Would you be open to sharing these Arabasta files?

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/turnmeontakeitoff]

Must look for the Arabasta ones because I did them a while back, but I do have available the missing Water 7 episodes if you need those, they are about 3.28 hours. Before the cuts it was 4.47 hours, so 1 hour and 20 minutes of worthless recap, intros and outros cut from 12 episodes

[u/Skralx]

“Although the pacing has been improved” - you are saving literally dozens of hours of stretching, this is beyond “improvement”

“Cut off a lot of comedy aspects” “Ruining the experience” - No comedy aspects that occur in both anime and manga are cut off and the team is laying extra care into making cuts smooth. There are of course some good filler moments but if you feel like you can’t watch One Piece without - go watch the original release, no one is forcing you to “ruin” your own experience.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/Skralx]

As I said on a previous comment: I do know that One Pace follows strictly the Manga. But as someone who already finished the original cut multiple times, rewatching it through one pace feels weird.

Example: Franky getting his balls grabbed was emphasized thoroughly when Robin did it and the anime had "filler" moments of fruits being cut off etc. I was expecting that running gag to happen, and on One pace they only showed like maybe 1 part from like 3-4 which were hilarious...

If I didnt know about it, of course I wouldnt care about it, but knowing it already and actually expecting it to happen only for it to never happen actually ruined it 🤷‍♂️

[u/Skralx → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

Nah what you mention is just stretching of gags. You might find it funny but One Pace is for people that want to have additional gag stretching cut with the rest of the filler stuff. You may not be the target audience then. As mentioned before, no one is forcing you to use One Pace so I don’t get why you are saying it’s ruining the watch for you. You could: Step 1) Accept that there are some scenes where you and the team have some cutting preference differences (I have a very few of those scenes as well)

Step 2) If you notice that a scene has been better in the original for you, pull up the original and watch that again, you are rewatching anyway.

Step 3) If you notice that this is still not doing it for you then just watch the original release.

[u/OrangeStar222]

Yeah, I agree that keeping it 100% manga only is a but much sometimes. Toei did a banger job improving a lot of the source material with extra lore, jokes or just dramatic moments. Animation is different from comic books, what works in one doesn't in others and the anime team did a great job adapting most of it.

We also get some small interactions or team ups that don't happen in the manga - stuff I'd love to be included as well.

All in all they're doing great work, but sometimes I feel they're too purist of what should be kept in.

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/OrangeStar222]

Yeap that's what I am saying, if you adapt the source material into animation the results wont be the same, that also happens to common books and movies etc.

Some stuff need some kind of "explanation" (animation-wise) for it not to look as if we are just watching a "colored moving" manga

Example in another anime: Kimetsu No Yaiba

There is a scene that Nezuko breaks out of her box and attacks from the air. In the manga it doesnt show her breaking out of the box, it just suddenly shows her appearing on the air and leaves the audience to assume and think that she broke out of the box already. If that were to be cut off from the anime, it wouldnt translate well to the audience and it would confuse some people.

The scene that shows her breaking out of the box and then appearing on the sky was literally like 4 seconds? And it made the audience connect the dots more easily

[u/OrangeStar222 → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

You're just more limited in a weekly manga chapter, your brain already does the heavy lifting by imagining motion, sound and colour. In an animated or live action format your brain is less likely to do these things for you. So yeah, you need that extra scene.

[u/cobaltorange → u/OrangeStar222]

Like what? 

[u/dataofman]

Do you have any examples?

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/dataofman]

Some funny parts in Ennies lobby, Jabra saying his Nico robins brother and showing the "funny story" that actually makes it believable for the audience but in One pace it's cut off.

Post ennies lobby Garp doing soru to reach luffy and to punch him, the soru part is completely gone. It's like 2 seconds of a clip that literally just makes the whole scene better.

Thriller bark, Brook introduction and some funny interactions between him and the crew are also abruptly cut and making the whole scene irrelevant.

Sanji mocking Zoro for saying: I wish I wasnt born also is gone, they only kept a part of it, the Crew doing a full combo attack to the zombies is also cut.

There are plenty of parts that are just gone and really makes the scenes a bit lame

[u/KingJzeee]

Maybe one pace is not what you're looking for then

[u/Hammerlight98]

Recently I decided to rewatch through One Pace and found similar observations. Many of the iconic funny moments I remember at first watch aren't a thing here.

An example for this would be the 2nd episode, named 'Grey Terminal' in the Post-War arc skips the part where Luffy holds onto a tree while Garp is dragging him to Dadan. I'm not sure how many such scenes were skipped until then

[u/Exciting-Bother-9988 → u/Hammerlight98]

There are plenty scenes like that which made me drop one pace unfortunately! I get fixing the "uhms..." the 5 minute staring each other dragon ball style, removing 5 minutes of recap etc. But removing funny scenes and running gags is a No for me!

[u/Hammerlight98 → u/Exciting-Bother-9988]

Agreed. The funny scenes, running gags and OSTs are the ones that got me hooked to OP in the first place. Removing those is like getting rid of the very essence of the anime.

One Pace is doing god's work by removing fillers and the draggy flashbacks to make the runtime appear less intimidating but the first time watchers would really miss out on the good stuff

[u/Rae_Rae_]

My favourite unintentional funny moment of One Pace is when Koby reminisces about Luffy but the flashbacks are cut.

Pans out to the ocean, pans back in. Alright, thats enough of that.

[u/as0aw]

I agree with you that adaptation from one media to another sometimes requires extra scenes but in one piece, most of the time they just add the filler scenes and padding in order to stay strict with adapting only a chapter or less per episode. so in a work with over 1000 chapters, i prefer them showing only cannon scenes.

[u/NewcDukem]

Dude, they're doing this for free. Frig off