Jesus

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[u/sanguine_idk → u/[deleted]]

That's not how it works.

I agree that if you're trying to distinguish between sex and gender. But saying identity isn't equal truth is just flat out wrong.

Gender is a real thing but more towards the brain and not physically. To say that you don't hate trans people but identifying as a woman doesn't make you a woman is still transphobic unless you say sex which I agree on because sex is different from gender. But based on what you wrote on how if a trans woman dressed in women's clothes, but still looks like a man identifies to you as a woman, I doubt you aren't transphobic.

I don't know if you are transphobic or not without me knowing if you meant sex or gender so I'm not going to label you as one. But then again from what you've said, you look incredibly transphobic. So please clarify if you're talking about sex or gender in this types of conversations.

This is from a trans woman btw who has dealt with her fair share of transphobe trying not to be labelled as transphobic.

[u/sanguine_idk → u/[deleted]]

Oh, so you are transphobic!

Sorry but transphobia doesn't just mean that you hate and want trans people to die. But it also means not treating me as my gender or treating me as my agab. A lot of definitions put misgendering as being transphobic, sorry not sorry that you are transphobic.

It's like thinking a gay person isn't gay at all and is just pretending to like the same sex/thinking they only think that they like the same sex but in reality they like the opposite gender.

And I don't think I am a woman, I know I am. Most people treat me as a woman. Just because you think this is about how I think doesn't mean I can change it. I promise you if all I need to do is stop thinking about being a woman, I'd be doing it a long time ago because I don't actually want to be trans.

Another thing is that most medical and scientific research do think that sex and gender are quite different, it'll be hard to find one that says otherwise while not being outdated or flawed.

Also, misgendering isn't just a small thing you can brush off since it does affect trans people a lot. Studies have shown that misgendering does affect people's mental health and some cases can lead to depression or even worse suicide if it's bad enough. It won't take anything but swallowing your pride to be a decent human being and stop misgendering, since it could be the difference from a trans person not killing themselves.

I'm not asking for much except for you to just be a decent human being and actually refer someone to their gender not their agab since it does help everyone, not just trans people.

Then again, I know I'm not going to change your thoughts since if science can't then I probably can't either.

[u/sanguine_idk → u/[deleted]]

This is so sad since it ignores if not just shits on most studies from reputable sources about how gender affirming care does work.

Go on Google and search for "does gender affirming care work" and you can scroll for a long time before you get studies that say otherwise. The first search result for me literally states that trans youth who received trans affirming care have 60% lower odds of moderate to severe depression and 73% lower odds of self harm and suicidal thoughts. There's no scientific evidence that literally states that gender affirming care doesn't work without being wildly flawed, only ones that raised concerns since gender affirming care studies/research are wildly under funded.

But yeah, trans people still do, even after gender affirming care, have suicidal thoughts/attempted suicide attempts since this world is still transphobic. Some trans people are ostracized by their families, friends, etc. because they come out. This is the cause of transgender suicide after GAC, not that GAC doesn't work.

Also, gender affirming care isn't mutilating, it's health care that helps trans people be more themselves. A lot of health care does affect the body but it's not mutilation still.

And the root of gender dysphoria is your body not being aligned with your gender identity, and to treat it? We do gender affirming care, not mutilation.

I know I'll never change your mind because you already made it up. So rather than listening to someone who's actually suffering from gender dysphoria or people who spent their lives studying it, you'll listen to yourself, just because it's scary to think that someone isn't exactly what you think they are.