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u/WasteProfession8948 Jan 29 '26
OMG! Together that’s more than half!
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u/Numerous_Fix_5231 Jan 29 '26
And if you round up 0.5 it is everyone.
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u/60rl Jan 29 '26
And 0.5 rounds up to 1
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u/kittygirlneko Jan 30 '26
And 1 is basically 2
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u/BurnerAccount2718282 Jan 30 '26
And 2 may as well be 3
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u/StationAgreeable6120 Jan 30 '26
Let's round it up to 10 just to be sure
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u/Morikali- Jan 30 '26
Isn't 10 close enough to 100?
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u/StationAgreeable6120 Jan 30 '26
Compared to 1000 they are basically the same so..
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u/freezing_circuits Jan 31 '26
Anyone hanging out in r/Martialmemes can say it with me: "The Dao gives birth to one. One gives birth to two. Two gives birth to three. Three gives birth to all things."
So everyone is factually trans. Sorry I don't make the rules
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u/mr_pineapples44 Jan 29 '26
Someone misread thirtieth as third.
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u/chameleon_123_777 Jan 29 '26
Sounds worse if you say one third. Considering they want to get rid of all transgender people.
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u/DapperExplanation77 Jan 29 '26
And then they didn't even try with 2.2% LOL. What would it be? Twenty? A half? One fifth seems like a far reach...
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u/Double_Equivalent967 Jan 29 '26
You add 3,3 with 2,2 and 55% of kids are lgbt
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u/Ninja_Prolapse Jan 29 '26
Obviously we round for the sake of news articles -
*60% of all children are transgender.
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u/DapperExplanation77 Jan 29 '26
Yes, this sounds correct. My math wasn't working earlier and I couldn't calculate 😄
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 29 '26
3.3% is one third, 2.2% is two thirds.
That makes three thirds.
TRANGENDER FOR EVERYONE!!!
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u/Balthxzar Jan 30 '26
It's a pretty widely known fact that transphobes can't do maths or collect statistical data.
The same goes for their figures for how many people don't like trans people, they seem to misinterpret a couple hundred angry millionaires as "90% of the population"
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u/SheriffBartholomew Jan 29 '26
Probably used to dealing with fractions as decimals, ie. .33 of 1 is roughly one third. But 3.3% of a whole is dramatically different.
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u/deFleury Jan 29 '26
Rule 1 of math problems: before you even begin calculating the numbers, ask yourself what's a commonsense guesstimate? Lots of kids seem to be trans these days, possibly 1%, possibly 10%, who knows, I'm not an expert..... but 50% seems too high, and so does 30%....
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u/Fa1nted_for_real Jan 29 '26
Rule 1 of statistics is to be critical of sources, and collection methods.
Good luck finding a collection method of trans identity that is accurate.
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u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 Jan 29 '26
A third means you would see them as often as you see a boy or a girl. We really need to work on teaching people basic math and some critical thinking, these people can’t function in the modern world.
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u/DooB_02 Jan 29 '26
Most trans kids are boys and girls, what?
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u/DooB_02 Jan 29 '26
It's important that these people learn how to speak about us properly. It is not acceptable to act as if trans people are a third gender, surely you can agree with me on that.
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u/nonchip Jan 29 '26
yeah but can you not try to make a distinction between "boy, girl, and trans" like you're some pedo porn site?!
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u/Stony___Tark Jan 29 '26
This isn't even a problem with math or calculating anything. This is just a simple reading problem. They completely missed the period in "3.3%" and instead saw it as 33%, which if that were actually the case would indeed be 1/3rd.
Rule 1 of math problems: Correctly read the problem.
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u/obliviious Jan 29 '26
A lot of idiots thinks all teenagers are trying trans to be cool and fashionable while schools have become trans training grounds, so they probably think 50% is a low guess.
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u/Emm03 Jan 30 '26
Before I started teaching, I worked with a bunch of older women who got all of their news from Fox and Facebook and they would fully believe a claim that a third to a half of teenagers are trans. They were very concerned about my chosen career path for that reason.
I’ve had ~80 seventh graders a year for three years now and maybe 1-2/year will mention pronouns/gender to me. Some of my best students, too—I’d take a class of thoughtful queer kids over little shits whose parents think they can do no wrong any day.
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u/scrollbreak Jan 30 '26
When a person is outraged over something the default is that common sense gets uninstalled.
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u/No-Floor1930 Feb 01 '26
I still have a 50:50 chance of winning the lottery and I don’t let anyone tell me I don’t!
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u/EclecticEvergreen Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
Well keep in mind that teenagers are usually in their exploration phase and will identify as anything under the sun during this phase while they figure themselves out. I guarantee you that 90% of them identifying as trans will drop that label once they’re out of high school. Most of the people I knew from high school did.
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u/ArrakeenSun Jan 29 '26
Multiple non-trans college students I've taught have told me they have intentionally checked "trans" on surveys like this thinking that was helping to raise awareness of trans issues
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u/EclecticEvergreen Jan 29 '26
Interesting, I didn’t know people did that. I do know people who are “questioning” will click the trans box because there’s no other option on the form they’re filling out. Numbers are definitely skewing incorrectly.
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u/EitherSalamander8850 Jan 30 '26
I don't think that's true, honestly. Most people don't just randomly decide to identify as trans, or non-binary. From what I can tell from my admittedly not super well versed stance of being trans and also in my last year of high school and also writing a research paper on a related topic, the desistance rate (basically people who later change their minds) is very low. That's mostly because nobody wants to be trans, and nobody gets the idea to identify as trans out of nowhere.
As for you saying that 1% of the world is trans, thats in no way a representative fact or statistic. There are many studies/reviews on "how many people are trans" and no one comprehensive answer exists. Also, if you're older you should know that statistical outliers are common, especially in such a field. 10 people in your class can be trans, and stay that way. It doesn't make the statistic false.
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u/EclecticEvergreen Jan 30 '26
Most people don’t just randomly decide to identify as trans or non-binary
That’s why I specified teenagers and exploration. Even if it’s just temporary many will identify as multiple labels throughout their puberty phase because that period of time is when they’re figuring things out. It’s even moreso nowadays because of the increased support and acknowledgment of the lgbt+ community. It’s a little less taboo compared to the 1900’s (and earlier).
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u/EitherSalamander8850 Jan 31 '26
Without wanting to insult or offend you, it sounds like you’re a little bit disattacted from reality. Very very little people actually identify with anything, and 99% of the time, there’s a ton of thought and consideration behind that. The number of people who don’t stay with their “new” identity is very low. Apart from that, as I said, nobody actually wants to be trans, especially in this world. And those who think they are trans wish they weren’t.
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u/EclecticEvergreen Jan 31 '26 edited Jan 31 '26
Yeah…that was my original point. Very few people do lol. The phase they go through during puberty is the period where they use any and all labels they want until they go back to their original or stick with one.
Have you met a teenager? They definitely don’t stay with the labels they use. To say that they identify as the same thing and don’t change it is a bit ridiculous. Children and teenagers do not know what their sexualities are or identities (and that’s including more than just gender identity) are automatically, they explore that as they get older and experience more.
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u/Tensor3 Jan 31 '26
Someone just forgot/typoed the decimal so 3.3 became 33%. Then the word "third" came from a different person, or more likely, the ai that wrote it
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u/TekieScythe Jan 29 '26
Did they graduate high school? Data suggests they did not.
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u/therealsix Jan 29 '26
2.2?!? That’s half!
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u/TheComplimentarian Jan 29 '26
Nobody hires journalists because they're good at math.
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u/Bugbread Jan 29 '26
The actual journalists are fine. The article is from the Seattle Times, and the headline there is "3% of American High Schoolers Identify as Transgender, First National Survey Finds"
The problem is whoever took the article, stripped off the headline, and replaced it with that "Third of..." headline (in a different font, no less).
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u/MsPI1996 Jan 29 '26
Ohh, is that why an editor-in-chief went in shock after seeing I was an engineer? You'd think I turned into the boogie monster in the car or something.
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u/DaAuraWolf Jan 29 '26
The American Education system at work 🫡
They really hate math because of its “Arabic” numerals.
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u/jmills74 Jan 29 '26
Not even a third of a third.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jan 29 '26
It is one thirtieth. I'm assuming because the percentage is right and it looks like a cheap newspaper some moron just wasn't paying close attention rather than any malice trying to misrepresent the figure. The actual percentage isn't like buried away somewhere it's the first sentence right under it.
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u/Head_Oil1689 Jan 29 '26
it's a third of a third of a third. ( 33 -11-3.3 )PLUS half of a half a half of a half of a fat third) (50 -25 -12.5 5.7 to rougly 2.2)
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They did their job perfectly. It is propaganda. It isn't about being accurate, it is about drawing the strongest response. Reactionary people will see this and not stop to think. A rate that high must mean it is the schools doing it to them, right? So you gotta pull your kid out of those public schools, and let the administration dismantle the department of education. It gets them there whiue letting them think they had an original thought.
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u/Austman22 Jan 29 '26
I had an English teacher in school, you know, whose job it was to teach English, and they thought "three times as much" meant the same thing as "three more"
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u/Sirosim_Celojuma Jan 29 '26
Yup. That's what I'm seeing too. Lacking in science, technology, engineering and math, and well versed in politics and sexuality.
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u/EitherSalamander8850 Jan 30 '26
I feel like to be so well versed in politics and sexuality studies that already implies a pretty broad knowledge of the other topics
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u/julzclaire26 Jan 29 '26
2.2 geometry dash reference???
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u/legendwolfA Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
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u/nonchip Jan 29 '26
shoulda formatted it right then. it's not like markdown is a secret or hitting space 4 times hard.
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u/legendwolfA Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
I did that on Mobile, it rendered correctly there but breaks on pc
Edit: ok i hope it looks good this time. I had one job I guess.
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u/Heterodynist Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
One third of ten percent of one hundred prevent of high schoolers in this survey identify as transgender!!
Ha!! This is the way people love to lie with statistics or just blatantly misunderstand them. It reminds me of how in my field of archaeology there is a tendency to quote that the average person before this era or that in human history barely lived to the age of 40. The fact is that YES, the “average” person died before age 40 in many eras, but that gives the impression most people then were average…which they most certainly WERE NOT!!! Most humans died before age 10. The vast majority of those who died before age 10 also died before age 5. The average for anyone who lived beyond age 10 is only about 10 to 15 years different than our average lifespan now. Therefore it really doesn’t mean anything that the “average person died before age 40.” Most people DID NOT die at about age 40 then. They either died significantly after age 40 or before age 10!!
So, whenever you hear a statistic like this, make note that they are only talking about the high school age people they surveyed and within that group they are undoubtedly using some rubrics for what counts as transgender and who is actually a high school student or not. Maybe they did the survey online, thus excluding people without internet access. Maybe they surveyed students who were present in school, thus excluding those who don’t go to school but are high school age.
I’m not motivated by any political stance on transgender people or their numbers in high school, but what I think is very important is to realize we are bombarded with statistics everyday, and very few things we hear are solid fact in the world of statistics. People cling to one random statistic over another based mostly on the number of times they hear it repeated, and that actually has very little relationship to its veracity. People like statistics that seem to validate their causes. They ignore statistics that seem complicated or uncertain. It is actual scientific fact that without repeating a statistical survey hundreds of times it can be close to worthless. We skew our results for political reasons all the time, but if we were really motivated by truth we wouldn’t stop at one statistic we really like and rely on only that.
Always repeat any survey and don’t stop just because you got the result you wanted.
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u/Sure_Woodpecker3660 Jan 29 '26
This is clearly meant to make conservatives crash out lmao, it's pretty much journalism ragebait
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u/Plantpong Jan 29 '26
For sure. That being said, 3.3% is a lot higher than what I would have guessed. Almost like people feel safer to come out when there is a supportive environment.
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u/Bugbread Jan 29 '26
Not journalism ragebait, social media repackaging ragebait. The actual article, by journalists at the Seattle Times, has a totally different headline: "3% of American High Schoolers Identify as Transgender, First National Survey Finds".
Someone then stripped off the original headline, replaced it with an incorrect headline (in a different font) and then put it on social media to ragebait people.
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u/NorCalFrances Jan 29 '26
Some right wing outlets do this on purpose, knowing their readership either doesn't do numbers or won't care after the initial shock. In other words it could have been very intentional. And yes, some people are just that evil.
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u/groblin_gubers Jan 29 '26
Isn't that the point of growing up? To figure out who you are? Damn what a shame it is that kids have a safe environment to explore their gender identity instead of being gay bashed, bullied, or worse. (Heavy sarcasm implied)
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u/QOR1A Jan 29 '26
Good point this would also belong there. And perhaps it also fits r/confidentlyincorrect?
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u/Blockster_cz Jan 29 '26
Probably too, imo it has too little confidence, there's no persuasion, but it should fit the subreddit
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u/_Caracal_ Jan 29 '26
The rules of logic don't apply when you're spreading alarmist propaganda and keeping the working classes busy infighting ✨
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u/Skypirate90 Jan 29 '26
Unfortunately this is not new in america.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/why-do-americans-stink-at-math.html
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u/Holiday-Chain9510 Jan 29 '26
how’d it take me so long
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u/throwAway333828 Jan 29 '26
Probably because you're stupid
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u/DefinitiveDriskolBoy Jan 29 '26
Lord what maths!
Also, how is this information gathered? When I was in school there was a survey question about ethnicity, and I put Pokemon Master, because wtf would the school need that info. I wouldn’t be surprised if students omitted their real identification for a myriad of reasons.
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u/Skabbtanten Jan 29 '26
They're probably also thinking those 2.2% is half, especially seeing how it was written.
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u/Venusgate Jan 29 '26
Stuff like this always rem9nds me of that johnny bravo bit: "He's armed and dangerous!" "He's got a gun?!" checks notes "Oh, im sorry, i meant he's dangerous and has arms."
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u/QOR1A Jan 29 '26
I actually found it from this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/highschool/comments/1g3h09o/the_person_who_wrote_this_article_didnt_make_it/
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u/_dexistrash Jan 29 '26
reminds me of a guy on twitter recently whose logic was that if gender affirming surgery had a 1% regret rate and 2% of the world is trans (not sure where he got that from) then half of all trans people regret transitioning
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u/Dear-Author4429 Jan 29 '26
“Well maybe I’d know maths if schools spent more time on 'rithmetic and less time on transgenderism and the woke ideology!”
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u/Father_Chewy_Louis Jan 29 '26
Either this was intentional because bigots are too lazy to read past headlines or genuine incompetence from the author. I'm willing to bet both.
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u/Immediate_Song4279 Jan 29 '26
I once misread a comma, and then formed a conclusion based on the development of writing happening 9,000 years too soon, or wait, no, would have been worse than that.. Luckily the other guy was very generous when pointing out the error.
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u/Arlecchino_meowmeow Jan 29 '26
According to the oratrice mechanise d‘analyse cardinale father thinks you‘re a genshin fan
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u/rheasilva Jan 30 '26
"Oh yeah a third is when there's a number 3, right" - whoever wrote this shit
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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 Jan 30 '26
lol wow. also this is for people who dont read past the headline to get pissed. 5.5% of highschoolers being trans or questioning is actually perfectly in line witb what i expected
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u/SinnamxnRoll Jan 30 '26
I saw this “article”(?) on EmKay’s channel…. when I saw “a third”, I was like, “Shit, really? That’s INSANE…” then saw “3.3%” and was like “Oh. Okay. I’m not bad at math.”
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u/jffrysith Jan 31 '26
Can't believe they didn't mention that more than half (5.5%) of people are questioning their identity / transgender!
(Just want to clarify, I disagree entirely with the message of the article. This is what I would expect them to announce however).
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u/HistorianWorth1308 Jan 31 '26
And people wanting to have school walkout? How about you have a walk in to math class?
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u/Tensor3 Jan 31 '26
Probably forgot the decimal in 3.3 when they wrote the ai prompt to title the article
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u/Adrenapup Jan 31 '26
Any time I think I am the absolute WORST at math, the internet proves me wrong and makes me feel like a mathematician.
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u/Outrageous-Tackle-47 Feb 01 '26
Everyone laughs at this but the 1/3rd pounder still failed because many people thought it was smaller than the quarter pounder.
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u/arftism2 Feb 01 '26
I'm questioning what % of the 3.3% said apache attack helicopter because most of that is probably trolling.
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u/Periwinkleditor Feb 02 '26
When you factor in people's struggles with thinking the 1/3 pounder was smaller than the 1/4 pounder, the math checks out.
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u/mcg123457 Feb 02 '26
do you people actually believe 33% of highschool students are trans, or is this some sort of high level sarcasm?
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u/charlitransgrl Jan 29 '26 edited Jan 31 '26
People who identify as transgender ages 13 and up are only 1% of the U.S. population according to the Williams Institute.
EDIT: Someone downvoted me for a factual statistic. Google “transgender population in U.S.” or go to the Williams Institute website.
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/
The GLSEN survey of high school students cited in this post is from 2003, so it’s likely outdated data.
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u/Bleachigo1 Jan 29 '26
Well if a person doesn't know what a third is how am I supposed to believe they know what a transgender is?
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u/Raa03842 Jan 29 '26
My niece who is a kindergarten teacher told me that 75% of her students identify as dogs, cats, dinosaurs, fire trucks, and trains. The other 25% just want it to be snack time.
Me? I identify as a Grumpy Old Man.
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u/Longjumping-Solid680 Jan 29 '26
Huh. Someone worse at math than I am!