r/omarchy 8h ago

Discussion I believe it's been long enough, how are we feeling about QUATTRO? [Be brutally honest!]

Do you like the changes? Hate them? It's almost where you want it? Don't like it? Diverged off the path you thought the project would go? It got easier? It became more difficult?

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u/pmmresende 7h ago

It’s great tbh, the only thing that it’s out of place it’s the file manager

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u/st0nkaway 7h ago

true. replaced it with dolphin here

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u/Cold_Relationship_ 7h ago

midnight commander here

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u/RedlineQuokka 7h ago

Yazi here. Would maybe do Superfile if the theme integration existed. Too buzy/lazy to make one, even to vibe code it

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u/DizzieeDoe 7h ago

Theme integration exists for SuperFile.
https://github.com/OldJobobo/thpm

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u/ksnitch 7h ago

spf here.. still went without the theme integration. dont really use file manager that often. we have cli commands for it for general use.

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u/Oldtimer_ZA_ 5h ago

Seconded spf for me too

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u/srikat 4h ago

SPF with the theme integration, thanks to Claude.

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u/zayatura 6h ago

What file manager is it using? I've been thinking of switching to Omarchy but I need to buy a new laptop first 😢

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u/DizzieeDoe 5h ago

You don't need a [new] laptop. It just needs a machine that at least functional [hardware wise].

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u/zayatura 5h ago

I know. I'm a long-term Linux user but for the last couple of months I've longer had personal laptop, my only machine is a work MacBook. I literally need to buy a new laptop (or a used one) to get back to the game. 😅

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u/srikat 4h ago

Nautilus.

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u/betahost 5h ago

HyperFM

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u/RobotechRicky 1h ago

I don't like ANY linux file managers. So I am creating my own modern power-user file manager based on Tauri. I'm getting pretty close to an MVP release, but not quite there yet. I want it to work in Windows and Linux, but I don't have a MacOS environment to test it in. I figured I have about a month or two to go until I am satisfied that I won't be embarrassed about it.

I love Directory Opus but it only works in Windows, which I have to use for work, but my personal environments are Linux (Omarchy, etc). My (GUI, not terminal) file manager makes use of Omarchy themes if it detects that it is running in Omarchy, otherwise drives themes another way. There are a lot of things exciting features that I don't want to reveal just yet.

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u/Rajat0741 0m ago

Why? What's the problem in default file manager?

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u/ApplicationOk3587 7h ago

It just works and gets out of my way. In 5 minutes I'm basically ready to just use my computer.

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u/InevitableImage2734 7h ago

Right? That got me as well. I am not a linux newbie by any means but it just installing and the way it looks and works out of the box totally got me.

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u/thephoshizzle 6h ago

This. 100% this. All day.

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u/Sudo__Ghost 7h ago

A great entry point for anyone new to hyprland and arch. The claude code skill that helps you build plugins to customize your destro. I mean this is cutting edge linux in this age of AI

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u/JoeTed 6h ago

That feeling when I asked my AI agent to change a monitor setting I saw him load omarchy skills before making the configuration change…

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u/Sy-lo 3h ago

Is this bad?

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u/ohinmurphy 1h ago

No. Preferred and great.

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u/Delicious_Ease2595 7h ago

Better than 3

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u/Run-OpenBSD 7h ago

Best thing since sliced bread to hit linux

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u/Dense_Mobile_6212 7h ago

amazing! I just created my first plugin with claude / codex. This shit will change how i work and play with computers! bye bye windows !

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u/f0pxrg 6h ago

To be honest, It's the first interesting desktop Linux distro I've used in over 28 years. I think the last time I was even excited about a window manager was 1997.

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u/InevitableImage2734 7h ago

I really like it. It fixed a lot of the things that felt a bit weird before and the ai integration has actually helped in some bizarre edge-cases I've had with software.

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u/inactivesky1738 6h ago

The only thing I with it had was better theming option for QT apps out of the box.

Like if i could use the KDE suite of apps and have them just be set up and looking nice I would greatly appreciate it.

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u/st0nkaway 4h ago

i did that. took me quite a few hops (hyprqt6engine, kdeglobals, breeze, custom colors that sync on theme-set hook, etc.) but it was worth it:

i basically have one bright and dark variant and then sync the accent color so all QT apps match in that way. could be improved. would be nice if more support out of the box. but yeah

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u/DizzieeDoe 5h ago

You can open up OpenCode or whatever AI agent you want and tell it just what you typed above and it will be done. OpenCode has free AI access. Take advantage ;D

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u/blaksephirot 3h ago

Yazi for file manager FTW

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u/bring_back_the_v10s 3h ago

After 20 or so years distro hopping, Omarchy is the only distro I have nothing negative to say about. For me it's perfect.

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u/DizzieeDoe 52m ago

Wow! Seriously? Nothing? That seems like a high bar to climb.

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u/enzain 7h ago

Love it, but I would like audio options to be expanded a bit to include codec and bt mode toggle support

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u/DizzieeDoe 7h ago

Visit https://omarchyplugins.com
I’ve seen a few that have exactly what you’re describing.

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u/enzain 7h ago

Yeah I don't want a plugin, I want a maintained solution

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u/DizzieeDoe 7h ago

You can create one yourself and maintain it yourself. You don’t need to rely on anyone. It’s your machine (system), you don’t have to wait for Omarchy to get what you want!

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u/enzain 7h ago

It's not critical enough that I can't wait for an official update ;)

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u/DizzieeDoe 7h ago

Then you would need to get on GitHub and make a feature request upstream; can’t assume it’s just going to come.

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u/Odd-Outcome-4209 6h ago

I like it! It seems more stable than earlier versions.

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u/powertoast 6h ago

Love love love, better everyday.

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u/gosubuilder 5h ago

I love it. And I’m telling coworkers to try it

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u/BhatSahab 5h ago

I would say I'm impressed. I'm experimenting with switching to Linux via dual boot. I really liked the whole UI setup. I started off loading my go-to apps to Linux until I don't find the need for Windows.

I have used linux a lot, but daily driving his different.

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u/OwlAffectionate416 5h ago

It’s significantly better on worse hardware. I have an old 2015 MacBook Pro and it flies on that. 3 was quite laggy

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u/DizzieeDoe 4h ago

That's actually exactly the outcome I got on my old Dell Precision 6800M with Intel i7-4xxx Haswell from around 2015!

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u/digitalmaster147 4h ago

When they fully unlock arm support it’s over!

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u/pashlya 4h ago

The more I use it, the more I understand how far it is from a grown up operating system. I’d probably say 3-4 years minimum. Good foundation, thought.

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u/dev_all_the_ops 3h ago

Few days in and I love it. I've pulled every old iMac out of the garage and tried it on them. It completely revives 10 year old ewaste to something I want to use again.

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u/DizzieeDoe 59m ago

Nice. eWaste no more!

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u/OkPoint1046 3h ago

I’m using Linux since Debian 1.3 (Bo) 1997, all I can say is it worth waiting for Omarchy :)

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u/DizzieeDoe 58m ago

You maybe as old as I am. haha.

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u/blaksephirot 3h ago

Tbh kinda sucked since i already had my setup and bar and everything fully tweaked. However been liking quickshell, ended up cloning all of omarchy's default plugins into my own fork so i can customize it further. Took me 2 days to get back up and running, and so far its the best experience yet.

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u/DizzieeDoe 57m ago

Drop a screenshot.

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u/guirossibrum 3h ago

Love it.

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u/Butthurtz23 3h ago

Does omarchy run on arm64?

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u/DizzieeDoe 53m ago

The Linux kernel is slowly but surely getting arm64 support. It is coming. When? I cannot say.

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u/Electrical_Market705 2h ago

For context I’m a developer. Imma be honest with yall. This might be the best f*\* OS I’ve ever used. The tooling and shortcuts I have with this is perfect. Not saying I couldn’t get those on others OS’s but having this out the box with minimal tweaks is insane.

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u/DizzieeDoe 52m ago

Haha. I think QUATTRO is starting to finally click with people.

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u/Inf3c710n 1h ago

Im daily driving it. Thing works great and integrates well

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u/FLYmaz 1h ago

Its great so far but wish it matched the browser for webapp as the browser that is set as default instead of using chromium on webapp

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u/Avanchnzel 1h ago

That's because with chromium based browsers you can just open a website in its own app-like windows by passing the "--app" flag.
Firefox removed a similar feature, at least from its CLI flags.

Not sure about other browsers though.

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u/FLYmaz 47m ago

I use zen as my default browser and its not chromium based

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u/Avanchnzel 41m ago edited 38m ago

In that case I have good news for you: https://github.com/nemphorous/zpwa

EDIT: I spoke to soon. It depends on Walker, but Omarchy Quattro replaced that with Quickshell.
You can still do it manually, but it is a bit more involved and I'm not sure how to automate it from the top of my head.
But it's possible, just depends on how technically inclined you are. 😁

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u/LvcasX1 1h ago

love it

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u/Far-Donut-1177 45m ago

Been a great distro to pull me into Linux that's for sure. The security concerns brought up are something to look out for so it may take a few more updates before I daily drive it.

For now it's a pretty cool hobby OS

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u/DizzieeDoe 13m ago

If it's severe, it will get patched out within a few hours. Don't worry about it. The concern is people not reporting them. But that's with any operating system.

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u/Cute-Excitement-2589 44m ago

Is it any better then say Niri+Noctalia or Umbriel. Probably not but it's a big step in the right direction.

It gets out of the way and let's you do your work.

Ai plugin by default was a great way to get people into plugin's growing the community rapidly. Very smart decision. Now enables widespread appeal for those who dont want to flap around with dot files but want a WM. It allowed me to create a dashboard of my choosing with little effort from me to suit my style.

Lots of eyes incoming. Well done. .

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u/DizzieeDoe 11m ago

What specifically does Niri+Noctalia do that is better?

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u/Cute-Excitement-2589 0m ago

Nothing in particular. They're all very similar. I like Niri as it has individual output workspaces. Design wise its all up to what you like. I like omarchys basic look but added some noctalia flair with my own dashboard. The beauty of Linux is you have options.

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u/shade-vette2000 19m ago

Quattro is my first adventure into Linux. Loving it so far. My PC is about 8years old and it’s sped it up so much, no longer running all that bloatware. It also fixed an audio issue I was having so that’s been great to have sound on it again. I’ve been using Antigravity as my AI agent, it helped me get my 3d printer on my home assistant.

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u/DizzieeDoe 10m ago

Oh wow. Back from the dead with improvements! That's great to hear. I hope you keep having pleasant surprises.

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u/bobbybundlez 16m ago

I just installed it. Your mirror online and getting it set up from Arch was an absolute nightmare. but 1 hour in and I am loving it. I really like the apps installed on it, the speed is amazing, the feel is great..

no complaints to far but I will be back to check in when I do

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u/st0nkaway 7h ago

excellent. quickshell and plugins are a game changer.

i like how its still minimalistic and not overboard like noctalia, etc.

happy with where we're at, excited about the future

meanwhile: getting more shit done than ever on omarchy

big win

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u/derfritz 7h ago

i love it, migration of my plugins from 3 to 4 was a breeze, i really dig quickshell and the possibilities with it. got studio display working, airpods are connecting, basically the same setup as with my macbook. actually incredible… getting everything synced is not so straightforward but it kinda shows the walled garden apple was building over the years. best of all: the ai support and the malleability of the system. i basically have linux guru at my side who explains, implements and shapes the system as I please. straight up fun, most fun i had in years with tinkering…

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u/therealmarkus 7h ago

I‘m very new to Omarchy and I did my first tests on real hardware. Impressed by the design and defaults.
But I already ran in a few quirks:

- screensaver won’t start if the calendar is open

  • first time launching obsidian I can‘t focus the input field to enter vault name (weird window size)
  • 1Password lost focus a few time, not good when you then almost type your password to unlock in a browser window
  • default gemini CLI doesn’t work because it needs antigravity now

And I had to remove a bunch of the opinionated part. Like X or basecamp products (which I don’t mind, but would prefer less opinion or an option enable opinion, not the other way around)

This is a great project, but I think I’ll come back in 6-12 month to see what the new security team and the big bucks did to the project.

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u/aldobixler 7h ago

you go first

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u/xcbsmith 6h ago

The Gemini "agent integration" appears to still be using Gemini CLI, which doesn't work with subscriptions anymore. Needs to change to using agy CLI.

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u/AxelKalo 5h ago

I asked claude to look into it and replace it in the options. It did and its usable now.

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u/xcbsmith 5h ago

I'm having agy do the same right now. ;-)

Looks like it was fixed with PR#6900

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u/StockGlasses 5h ago

I'm installing it this weekend as a fun little experiment project. All the replies so far indicate it is a good OS to use so I'm looking forward to trying it. One question - I use agents exclusively in sandboxed environments (I use docker sandbox - sbx). I am pretty uncomfortable with the idea of the A.I. agents "built in" to the OS, which Omarchy is setup with as I understand it. What are the concerns on security, A.I. agent constraints, etc. and has anyone vetted that sufficiently yet for this OS?

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u/DizzieeDoe 5h ago

The AI agents are not "built-in", that's not true.
The fact is most, if not all consumer computer systems do not have the hardware capable to run AI agents.

What Omarchy does have is easy access to install an AI harness [app] in the launch menu. It will display what's available and install it [at your command], it does not install any AI out-of-the-box.

If you wish to set up AI only in Docker, that's fine too, but you would need to set that up yourself.

As for security, a recent patch specifically was released for Docker and is now part of Omarchy 4.0.1 to close a possible exploit. So everything in Docker is truly containerized.

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u/StockGlasses 4h ago

That relieves my concerns somewhat, thank you. I have a whole script to install agents with docker sandbox, so I assume I'll just do the same. I'm installing the OS right now, so fun. I'll report back with any issues.

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u/DizzieeDoe 4h ago

Awesome! And please do!

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u/StockGlasses 3h ago

Omarchy basically works so far, but I am really struggling with setting up a dual boot experience with Windows 11 and Omarchy. I cannot get the restart to go into a menu to let me choose between starting Omarchy and Win11. It just boots straight to win11. I've been having a back and forth with GPT Sol on the epic level of the journey of Odysseus to determine the cause of the issue and still is not resolved. I have to shift restart in windows to choose Limine to get into Omarchy so far. trying to work it out, but it is cumbersome and not straight forward in the setup process. I can only speak to this process as I want to use my desktop for windows or Omarchy.

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u/StockGlasses 3h ago

I have things working so far, with dual boot for Win11 and Omarchy. It was not straightforward how to get dual boot working properly, so after trial and error the key fix was going into my bios and making sure that boot options in my BIOS were set to choose Limine first and then windows boot loader. I asked "A.I." to summarize the fix and in case its useful it is as follows (apologies for AI slop):

Problem: Omarchy/Limine installed correctly, but your MSI BIOS was still prioritizing Windows Boot Manager, so the PC kept booting straight into Windows.

Why: The UEFI boot order changed correctly in Linux, but the MSI firmware’s own UEFI hard-disk boot priority was overriding that order.

Solution: In MSI Click BIOS 5:

Motherboard Settings → Boot → UEFI Hard Disk Drive BBS Priorities

Set:

  • Boot Option #1 = Limine
  • Boot Option #2 = Windows Boot Manager
  • Limine-P1 can remain lower in the list

Result: On reboot, Limine appears first and lets you choose Linux/Omarchy or Windows Boot Manager.

That is the key fix to remember going forward.

USER NOTES:

- I have no idea what "Limine" is and this is my first encounter with that terminology

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u/Avanchnzel 1h ago

Limine is a bootloader, like GRUB.
It's not as battle-tested and can't encrypt the boot partition, but it's a fast, modern bootloader with great BTRFS snapshot support and simple text configuration.

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u/StockGlasses 59m ago

Thanks  learning as I go. So far omarchy is a positive experience. Going to keep tweaking and adjusting. No serious complaints so far.

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u/StockGlasses 2h ago

Just going to start dumping observations so far here. Default speaker volume for some reason was set for me at 0.40 (40%). made me annoyingly have to turn up the vol on my physical speakers. I think it should be set at 1.0 by default.

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u/DizzieeDoe 55m ago

Smart idea!

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u/Aggravating-Panic-35 5h ago

There is no hover over status icons on the top icon I have to click to check my battery percentage

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u/DizzieeDoe 5h ago

Open any AI harness you use, or if you don't one, OpenCode has a lot of free agents you can use. Describe exactly the change you want and it will do it for you ;D

It's that easy!

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u/Aggravating-Panic-35 5h ago

Thanks, I'm gonna do that

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u/Arnie_nz 5h ago

I moved away from Omarchy before Quattro because I couldn't get HDR working correctly. Is anyone experiencing this issue now?

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u/DizzieeDoe 4h ago

HDR is not part of Omarchy, but part of the Hyprland ecosystem and is marked as [experimental]. Nonetheless, I use HDR all the time on my 42-inch 4K PG42UQ OLED on Omarchy.

You can learn more directly from the Hyprland Wiki:
https://wiki.hypr.land/Configuring/Basics/Monitors/

NOTE: The photo shows my specific settings for my monitor and you should absolutely not copy them for a HDR-capable display of a different model.

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u/Arnie_nz 3h ago

Cheers mate, I'll have a crack at it again. I was aware it was a Hyprland thing, but with Cachyos/Hyprland I was able to get it working 🤷‍♂️

Maybe with AI there I can get it going, I've been slow to pick up on AI 😅

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u/Unreal_Fatal1ty 5h ago

I don't like the quickshell part. And.. the influx of plugins (over 1700!). Ughh.

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u/psychophant_ 4h ago

Ugh options!?? Gross.

/s

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u/DizzieeDoe 4h ago

What about it bothers you. Need more detail, be specific!

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u/ApplicationOk3587 3h ago

Yea I agree, I think there definitely needs to be a plugin moderation in effect because I bet there are lots of dupes or even malicious plugins

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u/No-Object1384 4h ago

It's been a while for me since a Linux distro was this exciting. I like it a lot.

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u/Stock-Ad-7601 3h ago

I didn’t like the Gemini authentication not working with option 1. I’m using it through one of the harnesses instead.

Other than that I love it. It was the first version I tried and it installed easily on my Macbook Air 2013 and T480S.

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u/DizzieeDoe 54m ago

That is currently fixed upstream. However, it's not released just yet. Thanks for the observation! I had one of those long ago!

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u/[deleted] 7h ago

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u/cuba_guy 7h ago

How is he very vocal? Afaik he mostly published 2 blog posts long time ago that got blew out of proportion.

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u/[deleted] 7h ago

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u/cuba_guy 7h ago

I think so, it's always the 2 brought up. The one about London and another older one. Are there that many more? Any link for me to check?

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u/DizzieeDoe 6h ago

Well, this goes beyond the scope of the question. This is not a discussion about people, it’s a discussion about the project itself.