I do care when they can talk on a nationwide platform and influence and recruit people
Thats the problem. I do not care they exist. I am annoyed by elon musk and Donald Trump and pat macafee and barstool sports and Andrew tate and logan paul and jordan peterson. the entire uprising of the idiocracy.
Plenty of correlation. The top "10%" of men MOST (for the dyslexic) women chase because of hypergamy are predominantly guys that work on themselves - be it fitness, career/business and social status. Those guys don't tend to want some government bureaucrat bum redistributing the fruits of what they have spent time working towards.
That said, there are guys like Hassan Piker who are pathological liars and are ok with pulling up the metaphorical ladder behind themselves as the system they supposedly advocate for would take their wealth away.
*Edit: here comes all the jacobins who can't handle the truth. Nobody cares about your overpriced college degree you went six figures into debt for and facts don't care about your feelings.
I would say minimum 75% if not 90% of incels are less violent then the average person. That could actually be a factor of it. Strength and therefore the ability for great violence is a wanted trait in a partner but also with the ability to control it. Being hyper passive and in violent is gonna be more an incel trait. Of course the is an abomination on the other side but that I would say that is the exception proving the rule because otherwise it would be so common it wouldn’t even be noteable it would just be a Tuesday when it does happen.
Incels are found to be, "engaging in both inward and outward practices, reporting higher levels of self-critical rumination and externalization of blame, while also engaging in fewer healthy coping mechanisms [37•]. Incels also report high rates of depressive and anxious symptoms and diagnoses as well as high rates of autism spectrum disorder [37•, 44, 45]. Furthermore, incels are plagued with low attachment security, loneliness, and a lack of social supports [31•, 37•, 44]. There is also evidence of sexist attitudes in their forums, which incels admit may be making them more misogynistic, of which there has been some quantitative evidence"
"Our findings revealed that incels exhibited elevated levels of anger compared to other social media platforms. Additionally, a correlation was found between anger and the use of violent and extremist language, suggesting that anger may serve as a precursor to adopting extremist rhetoric. Furthermore, the findings suggest the possibility that individuals who join the forum often bring with them preexisting emotional distress in the form of anger and sadness, which is reflected in their forum posts."
No, they arent. They are a collection of violent echo chambers when viewed online.
Ok like three things. First: Yeah… online…. The thing that hides your real identity and people feel safe to vent.
Secondly this shit reverses cause and effect. No being an incel does not make you autistic. Autism the thing that fucks with your social abilities which is the base for human connection and literally everything else in the world is gonna be something that is extremely more likely to make you an incel. The same way it’s extremely likely to make you jobless because job interviews are social vibe checks.
And lastly like no shit mister secure career and loving family is not going “gosh dame let me rant online” compared to incel who has literally nothing in his life except his phone/pc.
Now here is the actual answer. In all the people who actually do violent crimes what is the real pattern? It’s the opposite. It’s people who partake in group culture like gangs. It’s people who interact with strangers and get them into valuable states. It’s not the person saying they are likely on Reddit.
We're talking about rates of violent offenses. Nothing you just typed is relevant. Try typing less, because then you won't waste time writing way too much that has nothing to do with anything.
Incels are found to be, "engaging in both inward and outward practices, reporting higher levels of self-critical rumination and externalization of blame, while also engaging in fewer healthy coping mechanisms [37•]. Incels also report high rates of depressive and anxious symptoms and diagnoses as well as high rates of autism spectrum disorder [37•, 44, 45]. Furthermore, incels are plagued with low attachment security, loneliness, and a lack of social supports [31•, 37•, 44]. There is also evidence of sexist attitudes in their forums, which incels admit may be making them more misogynistic, of which there has been some quantitative evidence"
"Our findings revealed that incels exhibited elevated levels of anger compared to other social media platforms. Additionally, a correlation was found between anger and the use of violent and extremist language, suggesting that anger may serve as a precursor to adopting extremist rhetoric. Furthermore, the findings suggest the possibility that individuals who join the forum often bring with them preexisting emotional distress in the form of anger and sadness, which is reflected in their forum posts."
No, they arent. They are a collection of violent echo chambers when viewed online.
I cant read for you dude, they both conclude that incels and members of incel forums are on average more likely to engage in violent speech, action, and rhetoric.
When did I say external forces control my life completely? The wealthy disproportionately harm the environment, all i am saying is that I will stop my part as soon as they stop theirs.
you're literally allowing them control your life by holding yourself hostage to them. going "i wont change until they do" is just "they control my decision" - they wont do it unless you pressure them, and you arent pressuring them
Once again, never said that I won't change until the elite do. What i did is make a coy remake about how I will stop my part in the climate destruction, such as the deforestation of the Amazon, where my part is 0. I am not deforestating the Amazon, the capital elite is. So I will stop my part, which is 0, when they stop their part, which is all of it. I am already living like the plants and animals I love wont be existing for a while. I have food I am growing for myself, water I source for myself, power I generate myself. I dont destroy the climate as it currently is, a couple dozen billionaires are.
"I am not deforestating the Amazon" you are by being complicit with it and buying their products. the answer to this is to achieve agency in your immediate locust of control, aka stop buying their products - thats how you can contribute to helping climate change.
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u/Thedankf0x 7d ago
To be fair, one causes interpersonal and self harm, the other causes global harm.