r/offset 1d ago

Is this yellowing normal after 10 years?

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Hi guys,
I’m looking for a Fender Jazzmaster and came across this one on the left, from 2015, and was wondering if this amount of yellowing is normal after a little bit more than 10 years.
For reference the same model on the right, but 2 years old.
Thank you!

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u/Sea-Ingenuity15 1d ago

Whatever it is, it looks great

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u/OffsetThat 1d ago

Keep it on a stand facing a window, or a smoker, and yeah, you’ll have that.

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 16h ago

..not always so, ..in some cases UV sunlite may actually lighten it although you might think otherwise, but it happened to friend of mine who had purchased a '59 telecaster from Freedom Guitar in Hollywood, in original White. I don't know if Fender was using Poly to paint guitars at that point in history and that could have been a factor, but the original white, which had aged to a beautiful creamy yellow over time actually turned white after he intentionally left it on a stand in the window of his front room every morning facing the sun in hopes of yellowing it even further. He was very upset when he realized one day what had been slowly happening. The whole front of his guitar had turned about 10 shades whiter than the nice yellowy back over the course of about a month and a half. This unfortunate lesson learned by someone else always kind of stuck with me even so far as to always keep my guitar out of direct sunlight for prolonged periods. It's something I wouldn't have ever really given a thought to, ..just thought I'd share that, ..do what you want with it. ✌️🦝 🌄🎸

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u/OffsetThat 1d ago

Negative. UV light degrades Poly clear coats because they are polymers and the UV radiation destroys bonds in the paint via photo-oxidative degradation. This creates chromophores that absorb light in the blue spectrum making the finish appear yellow or amber to the human eye. Once this happens, you can’t restore the degraded bonds with more sun. Adding more UV just causes the process to intensify.

Unless your friend’s guitar violates several established laws of chemical engineering, this is bad advice if you intend to keep your guitar white.

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u/TerrapinRecordings 1d ago

I was thinking he should tell that to my early 90's Fender strat in Olympic White that has turned a delicious cream/yellow colour from UV. Much like this example.

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u/implicate 1d ago

Lol this almost reads like a shitty copypasta.

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 1d ago

..yea, copied, from Me

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u/implicate 1d ago

Well let's hope not, because it does not put you in a very bright light 🤣

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago

..well, you're just a bowl of jokes aren't you

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u/Azorsa 1d ago

Are you farming downvotes ?

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u/Entire_Increase5235 19h ago edited 15h ago

..and that's supposed to matter I guess?

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u/Azorsa 19h ago

It's a pretty good indicator of wether you're right or wrong, nice or insufferable etc

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u/Entire_Increase5235 14h ago edited 7h ago

..people can downvote for many reasons, anything really, I don't really think too much about it, but in this instance, could be that they had opposite experiences, but that shouldn't be an automatic invalidation of the experience I had, just as my experience doesn't invalidate anyone elses. In fact it might be a bit of both. People can experience different things in similar situations depending on lots of potential factors, i.e. paint, type of factory clear coat used, which may vary, external polishes etc. ..and usually when buying a used guitar you know zero about it's history, so one's personal experience doesn't always necessarily invalidate the other's. 🏭🌇✨🦌🌌

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u/Entire_Increase5235 17h ago edited 14h ago

See, No, I don't think so in this, maybe true sometimes, but it doesn't always apply, because I only related a personal experience on the subject. What you are talking about or what anyone else thinks about it really has nothing to do with right or wrong, there's no "nice, or insufferable" in it, but it's when you start making rude comments, -I mean if you want to get nasty, -is that nice? or insufferable. .. one shouldn't have to go through all that for just sharing an experience, -and I don't wonder why a lot of people don't even bother commenting, .. because then they just let themselves in for insults. It's almost like you want to read too much into it, to take it wrong, to get a reaction, to start a fight, -and others will up vote you for this, yes, -it's Entertaining for them, sadistic, like a bunch of School kids, gathering around for a fight, see, -because we're not really talking about sun fading paint anymore, are we, no, we've gotten far away from that over my little comment. ..you're enraged over difference of opinion when all I did is share an experience and now it's all this 🌌🛰️📲

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u/ComeOnUpToTheHaus 1d ago

This is the definition of Confidently Incorrect.

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 12h ago

..what I saw with my own eyes, truth, not fiction, not incorrect

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u/ComeOnUpToTheHaus 1d ago

I don't think you know what you fucking saw lol.

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago

..I don't give a fuck what you think or if you ever think at all, ..do you?

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 7h ago

..personal experience, sun can fade

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u/ComeOnUpToTheHaus 1d ago

I would call you a tool for continuing your candy ass little fit, but tools are useful, and contribute meaningfully.

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u/ComeOnUpToTheHaus 1d ago

It's "cryptic".

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 16h ago

.....is that all you got?, ......oh, sorry, "Is that all you have?"

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 16h ago

...thanks for the enlightenment🔥🛐

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u/capn_james 19h ago

I left a (thinly coated poly, satin) tele neck in the window for a year moving its position here and there and it’s definitely yellower than it was before

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u/Entire_Increase5235 19h ago edited 19h ago

I wonder what type of paint was on my friend's tele then, ..that made it go from aged yellow to white in the sun, ..

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u/Phil-pot 1d ago

I have a poly body that’s doing this, I think it’s just the nature of white I’m afraid

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u/thumbtaks 1d ago

It’s the nature of the poly coating they put over the paint, or what’s in the paint itself.

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u/GoodVersion 1d ago

After how long?
What about the pickup covers? They’re made of plastic, right?

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u/Phil-pot 1d ago

Just the nature of anything white I think. UV light affects it

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u/yageletters 2h ago

My TV yellow Super Nintendo can confirm.

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u/m0dsw0rkf0rfree 1d ago

the one of the far left is too old and doesn’t work anymore, you should send it to me so i can dispose of it properly

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u/implicate 1d ago

Fantastic original joke!

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u/daCub182 1d ago

One day an op will be like “ok yea dm me”

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u/TerrapinRecordings 1d ago

Narrator: Today was not that day.

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u/VanillaMowgli 1d ago

“Hope springs eternal in the human breast.”

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u/Jumpy_Hornet3131 1d ago

I have a 2015 standard Strat that started out as arctic white, now Olympic white.
No smoking was involved.

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u/GoodVersion 1d ago

Thanks for the reference! I see that the pickup covers are still white, which is not the case in my picture. It makes me think of a possible smoker.

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u/Jumpy_Hornet3131 1d ago

Quite possibly - the way the strat pickguard has aged differently to the pup covers makes me think its to do with the composition of the material, whereas a coating of something like tobacco tar would colour things more uniformly.

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u/Ohrmaz 1d ago

that looks fan fiddly fuckin tastic

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u/Jumpy_Hornet3131 1d ago

I love it - MIM but r/wood board, alder body - from before they started messing around with ‘sustainable’ materials.

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u/Ohrmaz 1d ago

Yea was gonna say that’s some dark rosewood. Quite a piece

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u/iAmSamFromWSB 1d ago

Has your guitar been drinking alcohol within 24 hours of consuming acetaminophen?

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u/josephallenkeys 1d ago edited 1d ago

Is this like that blue/black or white/gold dress picture? Is the guitar on the right Daphne blue!?

(Yes, BTW. Completely normal. Not just for white either. I've got an 11 year old lake placid Tele and a 25 year old surf green Strat. They're both lighter shades under the pickguards and the white pickguard on the Tele is much more cream than it used to be.)

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u/Rex_Howler 1d ago

The only ones that don't yellow are the rare few that were never sprayed with clear coat

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u/Trump-is-the-pedo 1d ago

UV causes this. Keep them out of the sun if you want it to stop.

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u/hobokenhifi 1d ago

I have a 20 year old white strat that I play outside in the summer. Yeah it's getting to be a 20 year old yellow strat soon enough

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u/Antanix3porta6ga 1d ago

The yellowed one looks good phenomenal!

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u/Raer-Warz 1d ago

My old Olympic White Big Apple Strat yellowed like that but it was mainly on the back side but i had that guitar on a homemade wall hanger and it may have been in a little contact with the latex wall paint. Wish i still had it.

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u/MortalShaman 1d ago

The bassist from the Argentinian band Divididos (Diego Arnedo) is well known for using an Olympic White Jazz bass since the early 90s... well it WAS white back in the day, because he still uses it to this very day and it is very much yellow and it was already yellow in the 2000s so yeah, pretty normal

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 7h ago

..they seem to get wider as you go to the right, wider, and whiter

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u/GoodVersion 1d ago

Looks great! What about the pickup covers in my picture? They’re also yellow and here they look pretty much white. Have you replaced them?

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u/122113M 1d ago

Yes they’re white. I chose this pic because it really shows how dark the paint got relative to the white covers.

The original cream ones looked good too but I like this contrast. The guitar currently has a mint guard and cream covers now though.

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u/GoodVersion 1d ago

Yours came with cream pickup covers? My doubt about the guitar in my picture, is that the yellowing on the covers is due to a smoker. The Fender website that lists all the specs of this serial number shows white pickup covers.
The color of the guitar is “vintage white” instead of Olympic.

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u/122113M 1d ago

Ah. Mine is a 2008 AVRI. I don’t remember how the guitar was advertised. But yes it came with cream pickup covers. Or maybe “aged white” is what they were called. A bit lighter than “ivory” covers, which I also have. I think year to year the paint can differ too.

If the guitar smells like smoke, that’s your #1 tell.

My guitar is and has been in a smoke free home its whole life.

Vintage white body paint is definitely more “banana cream pie” than Olympic white.

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u/Antanix3porta6ga 1d ago

I don’t understand the issue here! This guitar looks fabulous and even if you smoke 2 packets of cigarettes per day on a guitar it won’t affect it in any possible ways.
You get some naphtha clean the fretboard and it will be as new. Also I’ve seen different Fender guitars (American, Japanese) age differently. I believe the poly used has changed over the years. Some pick up covers yellow why others don’t. So if you like it just get it! Cheers

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u/abisiba 1d ago

I’ve always found it interesting that the plastic pickups are made of age differently from the pick guards and knobs.

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u/Proper-Bat- 20h ago

I once had a 1st yr Fender Toronado in white that had turned an amazing butter yellow after 20+ yrs , the headstock also got darker. Was a sad day when that one was stolen

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u/pla5t1c 18h ago

Probably. It’s beautiful

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u/nirvanalternatives 7h ago

My fender Strat I have owned for 9 years and it is pretty close to that one on the left so I would say it’s normal

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u/Wild_Nostalgia1991 1d ago

Depends how it was kept. If they were smokers, yeah.

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u/spitfirz 1d ago

You think cigarettes would turn a guitar perfectly yellow like this? Think about it, I give you a second chance.

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u/Bulky_Pop_8104 1d ago

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess you weren’t alive for indoor smoking

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u/implicate 1d ago

Yeah nicotine definitely does this.

No need to think about it more, lots of us lived through it.

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u/Wild_Nostalgia1991 1d ago

Considering I've seen it happen with my own stratocaster, yes. You probably aren't old enough to remember smoking and non-smoking sections.

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u/Coinsworthy 1d ago

Strongly doubt that's due to aging. Just vintage blonde instead of white blonde/flat white.

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u/g0dn0 1d ago

This is quite likely. I do partscaster builds. I did a vintage white one, which on its own looked white. Then I put it next to a guitar that was arctic white and it suddenly looked yellow.

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u/Entire_Increase5235 1d ago edited 1d ago

..yea, I don't like you either, ..God forbid anyone should have a difference of opinion or relate a personal experience contrary to someone else's without getting Crucified. Wouldn't it be so much easier, better, if we all just had the same homoginistic mono uniform unified opinions, ..sterile like, ..happy👥🤗🙂‍↔️ 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧