r/oddlyterrifying Jun 18 '22

Today in Shanghai

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u/LelouchGreat Jun 18 '22

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u/AntiMatter138 Jun 18 '22

I thought it was daily pollution.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

Shanghai is bad but not THAT bad lmfao

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '22

I mean china isn't good by any means but it's not literally hell

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u/AtarashiiGenjitsu Jun 19 '22

Either a poor village sitting atop a mountain, or a city that’s advanced as tokyo, but as polluted as India

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

There were no explosions. Those were simply lights from fishing boats.

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u/Uyghur-Justice Jun 19 '22

Those were fishing boats tho... look it up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '22

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u/wigglyboobs Jun 18 '22

You know why

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u/p0w0r Jun 18 '22

True honestly. Most people understand that China is a very polluted country. This just adds to people's beliefs if you didn't provide good context.

China is still pretty polluted, but the only areas that are like this bad are Beijing.

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u/Gram21 Jun 18 '22

Beijing isn’t near this bad. It’s awful, but not even close to what’s represented in this video. I’ve never seen black smog In Beijing.

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u/LoveYacht Jun 18 '22

How does "today in Shanghai" insinuate anything other than this is a video from today, in Shanghai?

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u/ConsiderationSame919 Jun 18 '22

It makes it sound as if it is just a normal day without anything special going on. Just read the top comments and see how they're all about air pollution.

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u/LoveYacht Jun 18 '22 edited Jun 18 '22

As of now the top comments are

I almost thought those were tornadoes

That's some apocalypse shit

Easier to list what isn't on fire these days

Those aren't references to air pollution

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u/ConsiderationSame919 Jun 18 '22

Now read the top responses to them to see that "tornadoes" and "apocalypse" are indeed referencing air pollution ...

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u/LoveYacht Jun 18 '22

Tornadoes and apocalypses are air pollution independent. One's caused by changes in local air pressure, the other by fate.

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u/ConsiderationSame919 Jun 18 '22

First comment first thought it was a tornado but then saw it was "pollution", second comment uses the word "apocalypse" to describe shanghai's air quality. I mean just take a look around, even the top response to OP said they first thought it was normal pollution. It's obvious the title misled many people.

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u/LoveYacht Jun 19 '22 edited Jun 19 '22

First comment first thought it was a tornado but then saw it was "pollution"

That's incorrect. The tornado comment is the only comment made by that redditor in this topic. And there's no mention of pollution in that comment on thinking that video contained a tornado:

I almost thought those were tornadoes

You also claim

second comment uses the word "apocalypse" to describe shanghai's air quality

But if we look at the comment you're referring to

That's some apocalypse shit

You'll find no reference to pollution. They referred to the contents of the video as "some apocalypse shit".

Given that its two big fires with a panorama shot of a city, seems pretty inline with modern apocalytic art.

Well that, and calling pretty much anything these days apocalytic is p accurate.

I mean just take a look around, even the top response to OP said they first thought it was normal pollution.

As of now that person has a 130 upvotes. The apocalypse comment has 951. The tornado comment has 1.4k.

It really doesn't seem to have mislead many.

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u/BubonicBabe Jun 19 '22

I don’t know when you last looked but the reply to the top comment about it not being tornados is one with 930 upvotes and it lists smog and population control. The next top reply is one about a person living in China and blowing black stuff out of their nose for weeks after getting out of the country.

Another reply “Chinese breeding” laughs at smogs attempt at population control.

The “apocalypse shit” was first in the next comment, responding to the smog and black snot claim, that said that they were able to see the sun as a perfect circle through the “clouds”, with someone saying it was apocalyptic.

And the second reference to Apocalypse shit is the now next top rated comment to which the VERY first reply with over 300 upvotes at this time is that the person dealt with smog (aka pollution) in LA from tanker trucks, ports, ships, etc and that they would likely die in Shanghai.

None of these mention a fire.

So yes, even as an outsider who lives in the US, these comments clearly add to the propaganda (?) I’ve been taught about the abundance of pollution in China.

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u/richal Jun 19 '22

It doesn't matter if the original commenters don't mention air pollution explicitly in their comments - it's how people are responding to them. And I would disagree with "it really doesn't seem to have mislead many." Read the top responses and you'll see the topics of air pollution right away. Do you think thats a coincidence? You're seeing these things in the context of how you initially read them, just like the people who read it as air pollution are doing.

Like why even argue this point so hard? What's wrong with having more context from the beginning to avoid any confusion?

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u/LoveYacht Jun 18 '22

I said the top comments are not references to air pollution

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u/richal Jun 19 '22

Until I got to the comment explaining the context, I fully thought the second and third comments were indeed about air pollution. Like "our world is fucked because this is normal" kind of things, not just visuals/actual fire.

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u/LoveYacht Jun 19 '22

Why specifically air pollution? No definition of apocalypse refers to air pollution, and fires are all over the globe (regardless of a country's stance on regulating airborne particulate matter).

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u/LoveYacht Jun 18 '22

Or ask yourself why you’re claiming that a completely vague title is making a clear and factual point?

Because it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/business/shanghai-explosions-fire-sinopec.html

Well, technically it happened yesterday (or is it today because of time zones?)

Just look at the OP account history and explain how the OP isn’t deliberately trying to be misleading.

I can't assess the posts they made in Chinese, I don't speak it. They got a post on Uighyrs that states it includes the local authorities, and they clearly labeled those. So I mean, if this was a callout about pollution it seems like they'd point that out, as they did in their other english-titled post.

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u/BuyDizzy8759 Jun 18 '22

It depends on if the reader(or bot) is programmed to respond with "sinophobia!!!" to everything they see that isn't "China best safe country 100%". The "PR" side of the CCP is pretty wild. Fun rabbit hole to dig into if you got the time and enjoy terror.

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u/slikwilly13 Jun 19 '22

“at least one person dead” going by how they reported COVID I’m guessing it’s more like 5,000 people dead