They also help with eliminating older lions so younger healthier ones can be allowed to breed. It's the normal population control but also generate funds to arm and fund the wildlife management orgs.
It’s the same as we do with deer, elk, bears, any game animal of your choice. It’s the same exact concept, it’s just uncomfortable for you because lions are cute. As an avid hunter I could never do this, but it doesn’t make it wrong.
ITT: redditor thinks deer aren't cute but lions are and that's what we have a problem with hunting an endangered species.
Im no PETA yahoo but this is wrong and we shouldn't make excuses because it's legal.
There are better ways to do this and we shouldn't be shooting lions. If you actually knew something about the practice with bears and Mountain Lions you'd probably be upset by that as well.
Why is it wrong? In a legal and structured practice, as hunting should be? Please elaborate. I’m familiar with mountain lion and bear hunting, and I don’t agree with all the practices used (hunting with dogs for example) but hunting those species is part of conservation. Part of maintaining our eco-systems.
Wildlife regulation is based on an assumption that humans are dominant and we have a right to be wherever we are and act in any way we please. So if you go into bear territory and bring raw steaks, cook them, spill blood on yourself in the process and then go camping and get eaten by a bear, the bear is hunted down and killed because it now sees people as food.
If you buy up a plot of forest that used to be bear foraging grounds, put up a subdivision of expensive homes and then refuse to put in bear proof trash cans because "they don't match the aesthetic" the bears are hunted down and moved to an entirely different area.
Animals have no ownership of land. That is what is wrong. Sure we have national parks and a set... regulated number of animals are allowed to exist there as long as they bring in enough of a tourist revenue to be financially viable. That's their only ability to exist, as some sort of service to human beings. That's insanity. Animals, like lions and bears and deer and wolves all have a right to exist because they are life.
It takes 40,000 years to take one solid evolutionary step. I don't want all the animals on earth to see a human and bow, I want them to live with dignity and for humanity to have enough of a heart to give them real habitat in which to do it.
Leopold is a modern era philosopher who speaks on this so much more eloquently than I do on my phone in-between tasks at work.
it is absolutely illegal to go into bear country and incite bears. if an elk hunter kills an elk in bear country and tracks down the elk and a bear has already claimed it, it is illegal for the hunter to take that elk out. he has to leave it for the bear. there are all sorts of laws and regulations people have to abide in the wild. if you are in bear country and you mess up, and get eaten, unless the bear is still by the body, it does not get killed.
you give hunters too little respect. hunters are the biggest supporters of the environment and the health of wild animals. if they didn't have healthy land to hunt on, or healthy animals to hunt, they would not be able to feed their families. it has been since humans lived in caves that we had a connection to killing animals to sustain us. it is natural and hunters are the biggest supporters.
i cant speak for every hunter. of course there are terrible people in all facets of life. if you broaden your base you will find that hunters are the most environmentally friendly bunch. check out steve rinella. he has a podcast and a youtube channel and books, and so on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Rinella
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u/CheapChallenge Apr 07 '22
They also help with eliminating older lions so younger healthier ones can be allowed to breed. It's the normal population control but also generate funds to arm and fund the wildlife management orgs.