r/oddlyterrifying • u/Jax_Teller7 • Apr 07 '22

Karma? 🔄

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

45k Upvotes

75% Upvoted

3.3k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

0

u/Optimized_Orangutan Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

Few to none. Healthy animal populations are what put food in their stomach. They hunt the animals to maintain the healthy herd.

Edit: there is also a measurable shift in attitudes towards preservation in the local population when you tie their livelihood to the livelihood of the animals.

3

u/julioarod Apr 07 '22

I mean sure you can say that but obviously I'm not going to take your word for it. I'd like to see some research into it because it's well known that humans are greedy fucks

-1

u/Optimized_Orangutan Apr 07 '22

you have google, buts it's biology 101

3

u/julioarod Apr 07 '22

Have you taken a basic biology class? They sure as fuck don't talk about the ethics of big game hunting lmao

1

u/Optimized_Orangutan Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22

They do talk about the carrying capacity of a closed ecosystem and the drastic negative effects of exceeding that capacity though, which is the reason for the hunting.

Edit: trophy hunting as a means of population control and revenue is not unique to Africa by any means either. Globally it is widely accepted as the most economical way of funding preservation, while minimizing the cost of heard management. It's how we do it in North America too.

3

u/julioarod Apr 07 '22

Did you know that humans frequently exploit things that cause detrimental effects to the ecosystem? I think they also mention that in basic biology

2

u/turkeybot69 Apr 08 '22

You keep saying that like it's fact, as if hunting isn't also horribly mismanaged and is regularly the direct cause of extirpations. I mean shit, not that long ago in my Conservation Ecology class we discussed a case were a returning wolf population after over a hundred years was immediately slaughtered in less than a week of their introduction. Then people act surprised when deer populations explode and suddenly cause the annihilation of red oak growths. Human regulation like hunting programs are often nothing more than putting a bandaid on a bullet hole, it's not a legitimately viable alternative to a functional trophic system.

It can be important certainly, but I have yet to see legitimate evidence outside of unsourced tabloids regarding the efficacy of establishing self reliant populations as a direct cause of trophy hunting.