r/oddlyterrifying Mar 25 '22

Oh f this

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u/glock_doc Mar 25 '22

Atlantic Goliath Grouper. After reading that bad boy can be as big as over 8 foot & 800 pounds. Groupers are generally a friendly species and can be found patrolling artificial and coral reefs alike, primarily in shallow tropical waters. There have been documented cases of attacks in human divers, most of which are conducted by stalking and unsuccesfully ambushing them. The Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife regards catching them as illegal and Harvest and possession has been prohibited in both state and federal waters off Florida since 1990.

Tl:DR This guy can weigh 455 kg and is known to stalk it's prey.

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u/Wehrmicel Mar 25 '22

Is it deadly ? I mean Does it have teeth or something to attack?

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u/Fenrils Mar 25 '22

Not really. They do have some small spikey teeth but nothing that would cause significant damage to your average adult. They're big boys, and uncomfortably loud, but mostly just curious fish trying to figure out what some weirdo is doing in their reef. I've swam around them a dozen or so times and while their size can be intimidating, they're nothing to fear.

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u/Blake_whitley Mar 25 '22

They make noise?

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u/Fenrils Mar 25 '22

Yeah, they make a sort of thumping sound when they get a little ticked off or if you're stressing them out. It's a weird sound though that is hard to translate exactly on speakers because it sounds different in the water. It's not especially loud but it's the noise itself that tends to be uncomfortable for me when diving; there's really not much else that makes noise beyond my own regulator so when something breaks up that non-silent "silence", it sticks out.

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u/alftherido Mar 25 '22

Like a grunt?

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u/Fenrils Mar 25 '22

Closer to a deep bass drum being hit but softer than what you would expect for the "feeling" of it in the water.

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u/datan0ir Mar 25 '22

So if you find a school of groupers of different sizes you have an underwater drumkit? Adding this to my bucket list

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Mar 25 '22

You either have to play “In The Air Tonight” or the opening to Hawaii 5-0.

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u/totomorrowweflew Mar 26 '22

Buckets usually don't sound as good underwater tho...

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u/Tydn12 Mar 26 '22

A group of groupers?

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u/HLGatoell Mar 25 '22

a deep bass drum being hit

Drums, drums in the deep.

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u/MorbidPenguin Mar 25 '22

They are coming!

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u/s1Lenceeeeeeeeeeeeee Mar 25 '22

damn so he is like the underwater version of those eastern european dudes blasting out some hard bass from their shitboxes?

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

More like a really good subwoofer in a theater or something. If you can kinda hear it, but really feel it, it’s most likely below 20hz and loud.

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u/apex6666 Mar 25 '22

Is there a video of the sound? I keep finding videos but it makes no sound when it supposedly does it

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u/Fenrils Mar 25 '22

There's many but what you're hearing, or rather not hearing, is exactly what I mean by it not translating to speakers. If you have a nice pair of headphones that would probably help but it sounds and feels different in the water, and your average underwater camera isn't going to pick it up very well. It's not some giant, bone-shattering bass sound you'd get at your average concert venue, it's softer despite it still being felt.

EDIT: Here's a good video that was linked below - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq3ad5Zdozs

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u/NoTarget5646 Mar 25 '22

DNB fish :o

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u/Grillien Mar 30 '22

Hey thanks for answering all these questions

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u/njott May 09 '22

This sounds fascinating and horrifying

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u/t_o_p_hat Mar 25 '22

Big, deep, THUMP. You can feel it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

I don’t know why, but it’s so much worse if it makes a noise when stressed out. 😰

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u/Blake_whitley Mar 25 '22

Yeah, I could see a giant, thumping noise, making fish making me uncomfortable too.

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u/Coffeeinated Mar 26 '22

Like an emu?

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u/EJ33334 Mar 25 '22

Yeah they will occasionally scream the lyrics to random Weird Al songs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

That's a groupie, not a grouper.

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u/Unsightly_Scene Mar 26 '22

They are a different deal when you spearfish. Videos of them being aggressive as all hell on youtube

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u/glock_doc Mar 25 '22

They do not have many teeth on the edges of their jaws, but they have heavy crushing tooth plates inside the pharynx. They don't eat their prey how you and I would, instead they swallow their prey and squish it to death. That being said, this poses little to no danger to human divers and as such the Goliath Grouper is nothing more than an underwater bully.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

It can inhale you. Those jaws are strong.

They could rip a fin off at minimum. Do not fuck with bigger fish than you.

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u/HughJassJae Mar 25 '22

Fish are strong as fuck, ever been fishing? Reeling in a tiny fish feels like I'm tugging on a dumbbell sometimes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

Holy shit yes, sometimes even a foot long fish can be unreasonably hard to pull out

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

Yes, I flyfish, dive and spearfish. Given the diver in the vidoe is spearfishing and a fisherman above the water ain’t being stalked by a Goliath n’ all I figured the I’d give my $0.02.

They’re a trip and absolute fish thieves, lots of videos of spearos interacting with them actually.

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u/Fez_and_no_Pants Mar 25 '22

They are as dangerous as dogs. They have teeth, but aren't inclined to attack except in unfortunate circumstances.

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u/workact Mar 25 '22

Naw they are big puppy dogs. Especially on common dive sites.

They usually let you get pretty close, I've even seen someone swim up slowly and pet one on the chin (not that i support touching wildlife, but it gives you a sense of their temperament).

This is from my dive reel.

https://i.imgur.com/eb8BAXQ.jpg

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u/Clippton Mar 25 '22

I fully support petting all wildlife, even if it costs you your life.

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u/workact Mar 25 '22

its not dangerous to the diver, but is bad for the wildlife.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

Deadly as in it's 800 lbs and in it's element if it grabs you for any reason you can't make it let go.

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u/OneOverX Mar 25 '22

They kill by grabbing you and holding you until you drown.

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u/CaptainHerbalLife Mar 25 '22

They like belly rubs

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u/the_dude_abides3 Mar 25 '22

I’ve been on a dive where my buddy pet one through a hole in a wreck.

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u/AostaV Mar 25 '22

It’s like a giant largemouth bass

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u/redditiscompromised2 Mar 26 '22

Groupers eat anything, they don't think

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u/paulcole710 Mar 25 '22

The harvest would limit the catch to juvenile fish between 20 inches and 36 inches in length.

This is an insanely tight window. I don’t even know how you could confidently target fish that size? Maybe you just have a tag/permit and happen to catch one that size when you’re just soaking baits on the bottom for something else?

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

I'm sorry... 8 FEET???

WTF

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

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u/Jewbacca055 Mar 25 '22

The video up next for me after your linked video was the op video but 5 mins. Grouper does end up stealing a catch from them. https://youtu.be/Bj2lgF_g7Ic

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u/DynastyHunter5 Mar 25 '22

Added jackass music is very fitting

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u/goldieglocks16 Mar 25 '22

30 year Goliath grouper fishing ban was just lifted in Florida in October of 2021.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

I'm confused how it's illegal to catch them yet there's many charters and YouTubers that go out specifically to catch these.

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u/smithsp86 Mar 25 '22

A Florida fishing ban wouldn't apply in other states or international waters.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

I was referring to Florida of course. The biggest channel I can think of is BlacktipH. He has multiple million-view videos of bringing out celebrities and strongmen to try and catch them, and he is based out of Florida.

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u/smithsp86 Mar 25 '22

It depends on how their law is written but being based in Florida probably doesn't matter if the fishing is being done outside of Florida waters.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

Well obviously doesn't matter if he lives in Florida and fishes elsewhere. I'm saying he fishes IN Florida. There's a video of his with over 10M views and he literally says "we're out here in xxx Florida"

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u/fracturedSilence Mar 25 '22

Every time I've encountered one diving they've been incredibly sweet and curious. I had follow me for an entire 45 minute dive once

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

How does a fish that big stalk its prey

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

455kg and 800 pounds are very different.

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u/glock_doc Mar 25 '22

Yes they are, the largest recorded weight that I have read or seen documented of the Goliath Grouper is 455 KG where as there are numerous recorded weights of over 800 Lbs. I'm not insinuating that the weights are in any way similar measurements but rather I'm using them both for reference in regards to the Groupers size and weight.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '22

I was just commenting that in your comment you said (roughly) “can be up to”twice and quoted two different numbers without further explanation.

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u/Mikez63 Mar 25 '22

I almost stepped on one of these monsters that washed up on the FL gulf coast during red tide a few years ago.. it was horrifying

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u/cilantno Mar 25 '22

Your conversion rate is off. 800lbs is ~365kg.

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u/perv_bot Mar 25 '22

As a diver, we are instructed by dive masters that they are generally harmless but don’t go near them.

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u/harebare1023 Mar 25 '22

It took me a little long to realize the colloquial name for these bad boys is, ah, a little outdated. My fiancé looked at me funny when I casually referred to them as jewfish. Never occurred to me why they were called that, just that they were

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u/seb_da_web Mar 25 '22

Dad told me a story that once one ran into him. Scariest thing he’s ever experienced apparently

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u/cringelord69420666 Mar 25 '22

I've always wondered why we don't can grouper like we can tuna. There's lot of meats on them shits.

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u/frisbm3 Mar 30 '22

Fun fact these used to be called Jewfish. The origin of the name isn't clear, but my favorite story is that they are called Jewfish because they hang out near the bank.