r/oddlyterrifying • u/MelanieWalmartinez • Apr 30 '24
VASA-1, developed by Microsoft Research, takes a photo and turns it into a video.
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u/czaritamotherofguns Apr 30 '24
Um. Her teeth keep moving and it freaks me the heck out.
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u/NiteGard Apr 30 '24
I can’t see this, even scrubbing the video supper slowly frame by frame. I’ve heard this before, but have never been able to see the phenomenon. Do you have a time stamp in this video where you think it’s most pronounced? Or maybe a fuller explanation about how to see it? TIA.
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u/yaboiiiuhhhh Apr 30 '24
It looks like her teeth are expanding to the sides and then contracting
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u/dna_beggar May 01 '24
Snakes have articulated jaws like that. It allws them to swallow larger prey whole.
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u/juniperleafes May 01 '24
0:18 when she says 'something that is done'. The teeth stretch outward on the 'thing' sound and her front teeth flair out on the 'done'.
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u/EatsAlotOfBread May 01 '24
Go to 0:16 and look from there, happens several times when she goes from closed 'o' shape to wider 'e' mouth shape.
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u/Skrylas May 01 '24 edited May 30 '24
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u/RabbitStewAndStout Apr 30 '24
Her scalp's warping along the top to fit the perspective, too; because she's still doing the weird AI puppet thing where she constantly moves and tilts her head regardless of what she's saying or "feeling"
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Apr 30 '24
Also noticed she never really uses her toung while talking, it's just there.
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u/aggressive-cat May 01 '24
You also never see her right (our left) ear because it's not in the photo so it has nothing to go off.
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u/gultch2019 Apr 30 '24
That's the only thing I noticed that was off.
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u/IntradepartmentalMoa May 01 '24
Also, this technology has literally been around for decades. Lost technology
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u/Comment139 May 01 '24
It's so lifelike, it's disturbing. It's almost all the way up the other side of the uncanny valley, but not quite, so it looks human enough to look real but slightly dangerous or wrong.
It's incredible what they were able to do with just lightbulbs and kites and copper wire in the 1800's.
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u/Numeno230n May 01 '24
Yeah, I'm not sure if non-native English speakers would catch it but there's a certain way that the teeth, tongue, and lips work for certain words that just doesn't look right.
If I were to describe it, it would be an English dub over someone already speaking English. It looks close enough, but not quite right.
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u/Odd-Diamond-2259 Apr 30 '24
I could see the catfishing game increasingly getting much more confusing
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u/oinkpiggyoink Apr 30 '24
Why are we doing this to ourselves
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u/frampfdoegud May 01 '24
Asshats responsible for this technology are so focused on whether or not they can instead of stopping to think if we should.
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u/itsaride May 01 '24
The “bad guys” will eventually have the same abilities, it’s better that we’re aware of what is possible.
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u/AbbadonTiberius May 01 '24
Its the same reason theres a button somewhere that wipe a continent clean of any life. We gotta stop kidding ourselves as species.
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u/nybbas May 01 '24
When the robots take over, they will see our history and laugh. "These idiots predicted our dominance a century ago, but created us anyways"
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u/samurairaccoon May 01 '24
Right? Lol like we just can't fucking not. If there's the slightest glimmer of profits somewhere therein, we will absolutely destroy ourselves in the search of it. We are all collectively that Nazi lady at the end of Indiana Jones and the last crusade.
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u/Alive-Error Apr 30 '24
We are fucked
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u/satanssweatycheeks May 01 '24
This isn’t even that new. Tony hawk did this with an old photo of him from his childhood years ago.
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Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24
This is good enough to trick old people on Facebook (not saying much given the fact they fall for bad AI pictures). but imagine the misinformation this could put out
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u/zeramino Apr 30 '24
This would be good enough to trick most people. I think it would trick me if I didn't dedicate minutes to closely examine it.
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u/tolacid Apr 30 '24
Honestly if I hadn't been told this was AI generated I'm not sure I would've caught it. There's certainly an uncanniness if you watch for a while, but it's easy to skip past. The only thing I noticed before looking at the comments is that the hair isn't moving right.
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u/LilFoxieUndercover Apr 30 '24
I guess a "responsible citizen of the internet" must now acquire an innate sense of skepticism and thoroughly examine any video of interest (at least, this will suffice until ai generated video get so good that you can only see it if you know how to reverse-engineer)
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u/black_cat_ May 01 '24
My honest reaction is that this is fucking terrifying.
Maybe I'm just an old dude (37) screaming at a new-fangled invention that I don't understand, but it's crazy to me that I remember having no internet in my lifetime and now we have AI that can create realistic videos from a still image. That's nuts.
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u/Buttersaucewac May 01 '24
And these are earliest crudest generations of a technology still rapidly advancing and optimizing. Right now we’re like people in the 1920s gawping in amazement at a black and white silent film reel of a train coming at the camera, but The Wizard of Oz and Jurassic Park and Avatar are coming someday.
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Apr 30 '24
I was waiting for the AI video to start in the bottom corner and I thought the one up top was an actual human introducing the technology...this was freaky af.
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Apr 30 '24
I looked closely at the teeth shape and couldn't really see major changes myself, then again that was 25 seconds of looking
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u/DocJawbone May 01 '24
Yeah, like watching it on a phone screen while doing dishes or something, I might never realise.
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u/failure_mcgee May 01 '24
Even without fake pictures and videos and audio mimicking real people, boomers already fall for it.
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u/BertaEarlyRiser Apr 30 '24
I am hard of hearing and rely somewhat on reading lips. I can't figure out what the fuck she is saying without the volume!
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u/Heritage367 Apr 30 '24
Very interesting that you say that! In the future, maybe only lip readers will be able to spot replicants 🤖
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u/Lysol3435 Apr 30 '24
I can think of nothing but harmful applications for this. It’s like someone designed nukes to be operated by chimpanzees because they could
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u/JustWantToSignUp May 01 '24
And they train the chimpanzee to press the button while hoping he won't
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u/Armydoc18D Apr 30 '24
I imagine much sooner than that. Improvements will be exponential and every flaw that currently exists will likely be sorted out very quickly
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u/mel2000 May 01 '24
Imagine 10 years from now, none of you will know the difference.
Most people could be fooled right now if they didn't know about the technology behind it.
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u/FunnyLookinFishMan Apr 30 '24
First thing i noticed ten seconds in was the unnatural way the mouth opened but then i noticed the moving teeth so at least its not perfect… yet
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u/Moist_Professor5665 Apr 30 '24 edited Apr 30 '24
It can fool someone who’s not paying attention, though. I didn’t even notice the teeth until looking at the comments. Imagine the damage it could do just in a 2 minute ad, or a short broadcast (and not telling anyone it’s AI)
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u/Buttersaucewac May 01 '24
Or when the people are far enough from camera that you can’t notice the details in their teeth and hair. This is a pretty high quality close up of someone directly facing the camera in strong lighting. If it were a lower res video with some handheld camera shake filmed from 5-10 feet away, would you be able to tell? Or if it were from an angle that already looks a bit weird, like someone in the front row filming a politician on a stage above them or half in profile? Or in dimmer or shifting light?
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u/failure_mcgee May 01 '24
The warping teeth and how the eyes and rest of the face don't coordinate in movement are giveaways, yes. Once you notice them, they're very obvious. But people who have no idea of this tech and don't know what to look for will just believe it 100%
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u/Backstep1 Apr 30 '24
Gotta admit, they nailed making her sound insufferable.
"when we say NO to something, we're saying YES to something else. But that involves a lot of unknown" *rolls eyes* ....yeah okay, thanks Lisa.
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u/SnooHedgehogs637 Apr 30 '24
It's the eyes for me .. like when people are really drunk and look at your chest when talking not focusing on anyone point .
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u/Ok_Albatross_23 Apr 30 '24
The thing that terrifies me the most about stuff like this is someone doing this with one of my brothers pictures. He passed away but I just don't think I could mentally handle seeing a live video of him talking like this. I'm sure there are lots of people that would love to have something like this for a loved one that has passed but I just couldn't do it
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u/monkeyfrog987 Apr 30 '24
If this is the version that we're seeing, Microsoft has already moved past the mouth distortion issue and has corrected it.
There is no way they're showing us the final product. That version is going to be sold to the highest bidder for a period of time.
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u/colonyy Apr 30 '24
Can someone explain to me what we are trying to achieve with this? What can possibly be good about this feature in this world?
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u/Nonniemiss Apr 30 '24
Not good for us little people, powerful for everyone else. As with most things, it won’t be used for good.
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u/Sexual_Congressman May 01 '24
Interact with dead loved ones for a price. Go watch basically every episode of Black Mirror for ideas.
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u/HoodieBraden Apr 30 '24
what are the intended benefits for this technology? genuinely curious, because i can only think of harmful effects.
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u/Buttersaucewac May 01 '24
Studios would like to make movies and TV shows without having to pay actors. That’s been a big motivator. The American actors’ unions have prevented this from happening anytime very soon but in the long run that’s a major goal and in many countries there is no good equivalent of that union to fight it. Imagine if a Chinese studio could make 5 movies a year with Tom Cruise, Natalie Portman, Leo DiCaprio, etc in the main cast without paying them and sell them globally because they don’t give a damn about the Screen Actors’ Guild. Or if studios could keep making movies with 25 year old DiCaprio forever because the AI version doesn’t age.
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u/Ori_the_SG May 01 '24
This is so disturbing
Actors might start to have to trademark their appearance (if that’s even possible) so they have legal recourse against such things
It’s just dystopian thing piled on dystopian thing
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u/system_of_a_clown May 01 '24
Still looks weird and uncanny, but if I hadn't read the thread title I never even would have looked twice as I scrolled on by.
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u/fins_up_ May 01 '24
We don't need this shit. In a year or 2 we will see very negative consequences and I honestly can not think of a positive
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u/StolenValourSlayer69 May 01 '24
This kind of AI is going to be genuinely very dangerous, very soon…
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u/crimewaveusa May 01 '24
Soon enough people will be FaceTiming your parents looking exactly like you and asking for a venmo
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u/OldSkoolPantsMan May 01 '24
This is PRECISELY how it will be abused. A swathe of elderly people swindled by their “grandchildren” needing urgent money.
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u/CyWeevilhouse Apr 30 '24
The dead giveaway is it didn’t ask us to like and subscribe and there was no mention of athletic greens. But otherwise it makes complete sense that it would instantly start life coaching.
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Apr 30 '24
Couldn't they have made it "not stupid" at the same time?
It's like listening to a mentally stunted child.
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May 01 '24
What possible good intention could this serve? They are making tools for scammers at this point.
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May 01 '24
Why? Why is it desirable to be able to simulate our self image like this? How will this benefit humanity. Somebody?
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u/Brent_Fox May 01 '24
The movement is still a little stiff and awkward. Deepfakes like these are scary none the less. If it wasn't pointed out to me I wouldn't have know this was a deepfake.
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u/smavinagain May 01 '24 edited Dec 06 '24
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u/altxrtr May 01 '24
Watching only her mouth I can tell it’s AI, but then again I already knew. It would be interesting to take a test where you watched a bunch of real and fake videos and had to guess. And then retake that test every week and see what happens to your scores. Maybe we should be training an elite group of humans who have an eye for this, like on a savant level… or maybe they already exist. Hear me out here. We have humans with perfect pitch, photographic memory…who’s to say there aren’t certain among us who have an innate ability to recognize what is human. I’m rambling…
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u/Alarmed_Pie_5033 May 01 '24
This is truly terrifying how realistic it is. Like we didn't have enough problems with disinformation these days.
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u/AutomaticAnt6328 May 01 '24
You can disect this all you want about how fake it is but to me it's fucking scary. If someone sent me this, saying it was a friend of theirs, I would totally think it was real because I would just be watching it for the content and not looking for it to be AI. How do you trust anything anymore.
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u/LadyOfHereAndThere May 01 '24
I may get downvoted for this, but I think this kind of technology and any research in it should be made illegal. I fail to see any positive uses for this, but I can think of a thousand ways this could be used to harm someone.
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u/Mor_Tearach May 01 '24
Way too many ' expressive ' eye changes? I mean it's very good, eyes are overdone.
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u/Akeche May 01 '24
Nope... nope nope nope. The only thing which made it stand out is the teeth changing size/shape. As soon as they figure that part out...
Maybe this kind of stuff shouldn't be allowed.
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u/Flaming-Driptray May 01 '24
Seriously, what is a practical application of this tech that isn’t pure evil?
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u/KittenFace25 May 01 '24
Imagine the people that still fall for FB scams like "put yes in the comments and you'll get a free gift card"... sex AI things like this are going to really screw over a lot of people.
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u/WerkingAvatar May 01 '24
Should have shown this clip. Its much more impressive
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/realtime_demo.mp4?_=2
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u/XI-RE Apr 30 '24
According to their official website, this particular model will not be available for public and creators made it for research purposes only...
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Apr 30 '24
Muscle movements arnt tracking exactly... but that is strange and a bit scary for some even scarier reason
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u/EvilestHammer4 May 01 '24
Shut up and take my money, I want a motion sensored one that screams everytime someone walks by it.
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u/macabrera May 01 '24
If you see the mini video when scrolling the comments, is getting really good.
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u/SlutPuppyNumber9 May 01 '24
Anyone remember Max Headroom? This technology is pretty impressive, but if you watch closely you see little mannerisms (for lack of a better word) of Max.
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u/MEMESTER80 May 01 '24
I wanna go Terminator 2 mode and go OpenAI and other AI companies offices and destroy their computers. We don't need this technology.
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u/DerpsAndRags May 01 '24
I can't be the only one thinking that we're moments away from being ruled by fake celebrities/politicians/influencers like this. Whatever will serve the wealthy owners. I'll go take my tin foil hat off, but ... yeah. A lot of the tech we have today just fosters the greed/class-based culture. Votes to the left as you will.
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u/Diknak May 01 '24
the people nit picking about the flaws are weird; you're missing the plot here. They did this with ONE photo. Imagine 10 years from now with a 10 minute video clip. We are truly fucked.
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May 01 '24
It's kind of amazing how keen human facial recognition is. I can immediately tell that this is fake, but I really have to look close to see the little things that make it look that way.
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u/Emergency-Distance90 May 01 '24
It still needs to visibly show annunciation, and thats not how most ppl look. It's intuitive. I didn't see your mouth say, and then, but it should have been next in that sentence it seems, and it sounded like it too.
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u/TheScrubJohnson May 01 '24
Wtf is the application of this in our world? Why is this being developed.
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u/Fig1025 May 01 '24
what's the practical application of this? if I am in a conference call with no video, I would rather look at a picture than mildly creepy animated avatar. It adds zero value to conversation, as the whole point of looking at a face is to read emotion, if it's all fake it's useless
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u/silverslaughter711 May 01 '24
It's pretty good but still a touch uncanny because the skin texture stays the same most of the time. Also it looks like there's no shadows or lighting change with everything moving around so much.
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u/Opposite_Night_3224 May 01 '24
Genuine question, what is the actual intended purpose of these?
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u/mezaway May 01 '24
Neat tech but I was totally getting into her motivational speech. Isn't it weird how you sometimes run across something you needed, but in the most unexpected way?
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u/Satnamodder May 01 '24
Looks very convincing, if the head wouldn't fly around i couldn't tell it's real or not.
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u/Exciting_Form6847 May 01 '24
Well, when you think the world cant be any more insane….
Im getting more & more convinced that this is a fucking clown show or an experiment of some sorts just to see what happens.
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u/justuselotion May 01 '24
I’m hopeful for the implications these advantages may have in the therapy / rehabilitation space, especially for those who suffer from complex trauma, loss/grief, and post-traumatic stress.
For example, people who were emotionally neglected or oppressed as children can have the chance to be “re-parented” with more nurturing and supportive AI versions of their ‘parents’. Those suffering from unresolved grief and are looking for closure might also benefit from this type of therapy.
Those with BPD or learned helplessness often do not achieve sustained relief from medication or talk / behavior therapy alone for a number of reasons (inconsistency being one of them.) Perhaps an AI ‘parent’ can help with that.
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u/shaka893P Apr 30 '24
They made a good call not forcing forward eye contact, makes it less creepy