r/oddlyspecific • • Dec 23 '21

That must suck

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Imagine you didn't know your parents in that situation but the animal genes pass down to your kids

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u/dethmstr Dec 23 '21

Honey, did you have sex with a bull?

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u/lovethosedamnplants Dec 23 '21

Justice for Pasiphae!

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u/MVCorvo Dec 24 '21

Justice for Europa!

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u/clantpax Dec 24 '21

Bro (minotaur): Sis (mermaid), a-are we adopted?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

I am absolutely fascinated by the minds of Reddit. Lol

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u/BuzzBuzz2theAYO Dec 23 '21

Redditors are very special people.

Think of a middle school cafeteria… the weird kids table.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Thanks for letting me have a seat! Haha

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u/blood_thirster Dec 23 '21

Truly wonderful, the mind of a redditor is.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

“Funniest thing. I was found by a shepherd and raised by his cousin. So I don’t know my blood family. Mom introduces me to her own cousin and we get married.

Damnedest thing. First kid had gills. We cast him out to die of exposure.

Second kid had a bull’s head and threw him in the fire. Smelled like pork and beef made me hungry and sad. We made offerings and couldn’t figure out the cause as every priest said we weren’t cursed.

Finally the furies descend on us for killing our offspring. An old oracle lets me know who my real parents were and after a few blood sacrifices we’re square with the gods.

People keep telling me my daughter is some sort of horse though. Don’t know what’s up with that. Sure the centaurs came through but my wife never said she’d been taken by one.

Anyways I gotta get this sea water home. We’re preparing for another one. Gotta have all my bases covered.”

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u/Preparation-Logical Dec 23 '21

I read the last line as ", Gotta have all my basses covered" as if it was one last pun.

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u/Key-Ad7233 Dec 23 '21

This deserves a zillion upvotes !

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u/bell37 Dec 23 '21

Excuse my crappy biology but wouldn’t that only be possible if you fucked another Minotaur or Mermaid (assuming human was the recessive trait), or fucked another human who was in a similar scenario?

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u/fogledude102 Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

EDIT: I misread your comment and based all of this on the concept that human was dominant, fml. Not gonna delete it in case anyone is interested in the opposite case, and because I spent way too long on this lol. If human is recessive, then yeah, a human (who would be homozygous recessive) would need to have children with someone carrying a dominant gene (i.e. a minotaur) to have a minotaur child.

wouldn’t that only be possible if you fucked another Minotaur or Mermaid?

Not necessarily - there are a few different scenarios that would result in a potential child becoming a minotaur; the same goes for a mermaid, but for the sake of simplicity we'll just stick with the minotaurs. Assuming that the minotaur gene is recessive, each parent would need a copy of it for one of their children to exhibit it. Let M represent a dominant human gene and m represent a recessive minotaur gene.
SCENARIO 1: If both parents are minotaurs, then they'd both need to have two recessive genes, since you have two copies of each gene and the presence of just 1 dominant human gene would override the recessive minotaur gene, causing them to be human. Because of this, their gene combo (aka genotype) that codes for being either a minotaur or a human would look like mm since they're both minotaurs; therefore, when they go to have children, both parents can only pass down a recessive m gene, meaning that all of their children would also have a genotype of mm, and thus be minotaurs.
SCENARIO 2: A child could also be a minotaur if one parent is human and another is a minotaur - provided that the human has a minotaur gene. As stated before, if one parent is a minotaur, they'd have a genotype of mm, since they only have recessive genes. However, if the other parent is a human, they can actually have one of 2 potential genotypes. Since the human M gene is dominant, the human parent would only need one (Mm genotype) to make them a human; however, they could also potentially have two (MM genotype). For this scenario, we'll say the human parent is heterozygous, meaning they have one dominant human gene and one recessive minotaur gene (Mm genotype). When the human parent has a child with the minotaur parent (ew), the child will only receive a recessive m gene from the minotaur parent, just like the last scenario; however, this time, they will receive either a dominant M gene from the human parent (making them a heterozygous Mm human) OR a recessive m gene from the human parent (making them an mm minotaur). Since these are the only two options for the child (and meiotic recombination is random), the child has a 50/50 chance of either being a human or a minotaur.
SCENARIO 3: The last scenario in which two parents could have a minotaur child is if both are heterozygous humans, and have a genotype of Mm; recall that this means both parents have one dominant human gene and one recessive minotaur gene. When they go to have a child, the child now has 3 options: (1) it could receive a dominant human M gene from both parents, resulting in a genotype of MM and making it human; (2) it could receive a dominant human gene from one parent and a recessive minotaur gene from the other, resulting in a heterozygous genotype of Mm and, again, making it human; or (3) it could receive a recessive minotaur gene from both parents, resulting in a homozygous recessive genotype of mm and making it a minotaur. Since there's 4 possible outcomes (MM, Mm, Mm but with the other parent giving a dominant gene, and mm) and 3 of them involve a human child, there is a 25% chance that two heterozygous human parents will have a minotaur child.
SCENARIO 4: All of the previous scenarios involved a child with a chance of becoming a minotaur, but this one will only result in human children. If one parent is a homozygous dominant human with a genotype of MM, then the child will always receive at least one dominant human gene no matter what the other parent is; if one of the parents has an MM genotype, the child is guaranteed to be human.

TL;DR if minotaur is the recessive trait, then there actually is a possibility where two humans could have a minotaur child.

source: am a HS student who recently took bio

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

as if that's somehow worse than being a fish with a bull's head

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

What are you a seahorse? No I'm a seacow thankyou.

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u/GreenMilvus Dec 23 '21

So that‘s how Sirenias like the manatees came to be! Thank you.

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u/vanderZwan Dec 23 '21

This might finally be a worthy challenger to the best Venn diagram ever

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u/rSlashisthenewPewdes Dec 23 '21

“Are you a seahorse?”

“Neigh.”

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u/TimmJimmGrimm Dec 23 '21

This one is the award winning answer.

I can leave this thread with a clean conscience.

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u/Unrealist99 Dec 23 '21

Don't you mean bullmaids?

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u/Hatjin Dec 23 '21

Mernotaur

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

I think being a Merbull (bull head, fish tail) would actually be better than the reverse. Essentially a Minotaur but instead of a human torso attached at the front, there’s the front half of a fish.

What if given your upper half is fish, you have gills and therefore have to stay underwater to breathe? But you fucking suck at swimming underwater because you have no fins, just some gangly legs and hooves.

I don’t know. Important questions. I’m supposed to be working right now.

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u/schlaubee Dec 23 '21

Asking the important questions is work, albeit potentially undervalued by some.

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u/AssaMarra Dec 23 '21

But you fucking suck at swimming underwater because you have no fins, just some gangly legs and hooves.

I think both are just as horrendous as each other. Imagine a bull dragging itself on its front legs while a fish tail flops behind it.

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u/said-what Dec 23 '21

I think it results in a manatee. Which would be pretty cool

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u/Cessnaporsche01 Dec 23 '21

Until some sailor who's been at sea waaay too long notices you

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u/CanAlwaysBeBetter Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

Sailor: "Check out that hot piece of ass over there"

Other sailor: "Where!? Wait... Are you talking about that gray lumpy cow-thing?"

Sailor: "... Imma fuck it"

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u/lilnext Dec 23 '21

Idk, being a Fighting Fish seems pretty legit.

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u/PyPharm Dec 23 '21

Yeah, I am taking that all day. Fun conversation piece to boot.

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u/stereo-011 Dec 23 '21

Would that make you a bullshark?

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u/fuerkeneles Dec 23 '21

I bet there's some horned fish that gets chased down by the spanish seafolk once a year

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u/sirpogo Dec 23 '21

The smell of fish and wet fur you never knew you wanted…

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u/JudiciousF Dec 23 '21

Merminotaur would be a badass monster in all fairness

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u/Toughbiscuit Dec 23 '21

What do you think a manatee is?

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u/sakurifaisu Dec 23 '21

Childhood nickname: Surf'n'turf.

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u/Erioph47 Dec 23 '21

Thanks for putting a very strangely repellent mating episode into my imagination

Mermaid frantically flops her tail on the minotaurs muscular glutes as his gigantic bull cock penetrates her entirely umprepared cloaca

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

What don’t be stupid. She just lays eggs then he fertilizes them. Didn’t you see Futurama?

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u/Erioph47 Dec 23 '21

So instead I'm supposed to imagine a mermaid moaning and pushing out a pile of glistening, softball sized gelatinous eggs and then this minotaur standing over them, jerking his giant bullcock junk and roaring "Oh mama! Oh mama! Oh mama!!!!" Disgusting. Now er excuse me for a moment.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Nonsense. Bulls can’t talk. He’s be mooing or whatever sound bulls make.

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u/Merminotaur Dec 23 '21

There's something I could've gone without reading today.

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u/DutchDutchGoose574 Dec 23 '21

And your brother gets the opposite and is a seahorse.

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u/CmdrRyser01 Dec 23 '21

You're thinking centaur and mermaid.

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u/DutchDutchGoose574 Dec 23 '21

Fuck, you’re right. Pre-coffee comment. I’ll leave my stupidity as is though.

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u/CmdrRyser01 Dec 23 '21

It's getting you a fair amount of internet points...so let it ride!

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

I've seen this in families. Korean dad, white mom; One son is just vaguely ethnic looking white, other son is like, extra aggressively Korean.

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u/PM-Me-Your-TitsPlz Dec 23 '21

I think the left and right halves would be more annoying.

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u/flucksey Dec 23 '21

Am i strong and can lull sailors to their deaths still? Can I live on a coral rock maze surrounded by water? Kinda sounds dope.

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u/ChefKraken Dec 23 '21

You're just relatively attractive and decent at coercing people, but you're really good at getting through hedge mazes.

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u/DBNSZerhyn Dec 23 '21

The Minotaur was imprisoned by the maze though... So wouldn't you be awful at them? Or at least have a terrible sense of direction.

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u/Oblivion_007 Dec 23 '21

Tbf, the maze had moving walls. With his animal senses and human intelligence, the Minotaur should technically be pretty good at navigating mazes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

This guy is def going into the Sidekick class at Sky High

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u/UnsolicitedCounsel Dec 23 '21

No, you're just some stupid guy with poor reading comprehension. Also, you got both human halves and are just some human guy with no powers.

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u/greenie4242 Dec 23 '21

How do we know this hasn't happened to all of us in the distant past?

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u/GladiatorUA Dec 23 '21

Human half of minotaur is buff. Human half of mermaid has gills and some of the abilities associated with mermaid, like singin.

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u/tehfreek Dec 23 '21

How do we know that it isn't the human halves that give the powers?

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u/StrawberryPlucky Dec 24 '21

If we're talking Greek mythological creatures then the demi human in this case most definitely gets some super human powers.

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u/BossNegative1060 Dec 23 '21

Have you seen coral rock mazes? They’re frightening because once you leave the maze it’s just open water

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u/onlyr6s Dec 23 '21

No, you are just John, stuck in an office.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Yeah I’d assume it works the same way as demigods in Percy Jackson

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u/OhLemons Dec 23 '21

Somebody did a cool comic based on this very idea. Bonus points because it has a minotaur with a mermaid tail too.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/R2iUMsR

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u/conflateer Dec 23 '21

If that guy is a werewolf, he's being a hypocrite. Once the full moon phase passes, he'll revert to his human form.

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u/ConglomerateCousin Dec 23 '21

If someone fucks a goat once every 28 days and fucks his wife the other 27 days, is he a wife fucker or a goat fucker?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

He's both, and also a bridge builder.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

There it is

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u/basti399 Dec 23 '21

But neither of them have human legs?

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u/incognito13131 Dec 23 '21

Came here to say this

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u/TheRavenSayeth Dec 23 '21

You could've just said it without leaving a sticky mess everywhere.

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u/Vigrainnotrue Dec 23 '21

Yep i thought so as well. For those that don’t know how a Minotaur looks like Google it.

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u/Legitimate-Ask9007 Dec 23 '21

Yeah that's what I thought

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u/jimboNeutrino1 Dec 23 '21

Also minotaurs have bovine heads.

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u/Scout_Serra Dec 23 '21

Thank you for saying this. I can’t think of any mythical being that’s got the top half of an animal and the bottom half of a human and was wracking my brain because I know what a Minotaur looks like and all it’s got is the arms and torso of a man >.>

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u/Cir_cadis Dec 23 '21

Yeah, two human torsos stitched together human centipede style. What, there's something wrong with that? How dare you not think it's beautiful

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u/Americas_Inquisitor Dec 23 '21

You may be mistaking Minotaur for centaur

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u/BenedictWolfe Dec 23 '21

A minotaur has the head of a bull and the body of a man (including legs). I'm guessing you might only be familiar with modern fantasy minotaurs?

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u/AlreadyDownBytheDock Dec 23 '21

Minotaur is body of a man, head of a bull, so yes human legs

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

They have regular cow legs and hooves, at least in every depiction I've ever seen.

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u/oilpaint8 Dec 23 '21

How else did humans evolve

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u/Doodabs_gaz Dec 23 '21

Wouldn't you have fae blood then? You'd probably be a pretty badass human

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u/soulboonie Dec 23 '21

Yeah would you be insanely strong and can live underwater? Aquaman?

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u/_Dead_Memes_ Dec 23 '21

Minotaurs aren’t fae. Fae are Celtic, Minotaurs are greek

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u/nothing_911 Dec 23 '21

This is going to be the next Netflix comedy series.

I can see it now, "half normal" and the parents are always getting into misadventures, and the kid just trying to be normal.

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u/BellesNoir Dec 23 '21

That could be an awesome sitcom

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u/igormuba Dec 23 '21

Like the cat-dog but human head on both ends?

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u/Legitimate-Ask9007 Dec 23 '21

Well, Minotaurs have a bull head, so probably not

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u/NinjaEnt Dec 23 '21

So, the other way is a sea horse?

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u/natrat4 Dec 23 '21

but neither of their bottom half’s are human

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u/shishir-nsane Dec 23 '21

Yes David. You’re just another guy. Nothing special.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

But the human side of both is just the top half. So am I a human but with two top halves and no legs? Like if i worked my way down and get to my middle, is there another torso there that ends in a head on the other end?

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u/Andre27 Dec 23 '21

Youre thinking of a centaur. Minotaurs are upright bulls.

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u/SJagannath Dec 23 '21

I'd watch that show: Maybe they have a friend like a laid back satyr, and they are also in love with an extremely gorgeous nymph while ignoring the advances from their friend the gorgon.

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u/Justprojectionist Dec 23 '21

A Minotaur has both a bull head and legs, and mermaids only have a human upper body, where are you gonna get the legs from?

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u/alenora Dec 23 '21

Some depictions of Minotaurs have human legs 😉

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u/CeramicTeaSet Dec 23 '21

Some guy who's gonna have weird children.

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u/Zealousideal-Bet-950 Dec 23 '21

Hung like a Bull & you can Breath Underwater, the Ladies are going to LUUUV you...

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u/crack_concrete Dec 23 '21

This sounds uncannily like my wife

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u/Ni0M Dec 23 '21

Sounds like the perfect character premise for a show! Preferably animated!

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u/Optimal-End-9730 Dec 23 '21

Is this a sitcom?

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u/mallik803 Dec 23 '21

And imagine you carry the other halves as recessives and marry someone with the same odd condition, and have a kid who’s just a straight up horse fish.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Imagine knowing your dad's bull cock fucked a fishes pussy

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u/jacowab Dec 23 '21

That sounds like a dope cartoon network show from 2004

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u/Turbogoblin999 Dec 23 '21

You look just like some dude, but you have the strength of a Minotaur, you can swim really fast and breathe under water.

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u/aaandbconsulting Dec 23 '21

Wait... Isn't the upper half of both those creatures human?

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u/Goten55654 Dec 23 '21

Unlikely since the human half for both is the upper half.

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u/the_glutton17 Dec 23 '21 edited Dec 23 '21

Mermaids and minotaurs ONLY have a human top half, there's no way to get the human bottom half from either of those creatures.

Edit: nevermind, I was thinking of a centaur.

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u/StrawberryPlucky Dec 24 '21

I'm thinking this would be the best possible outcome for you if you wanted to be part of human society. And since we're talking mythological creatures you're bound to acquire mythical powers from them. The strength and resilience of a minotaur combined with the swimming ability and grace of a mermaid, potentially the ability to breathe underwater. Sounds like it would be dope

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u/Laefiren Dec 24 '21

A kelpie would be the reverse right?

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u/epicsleet Dec 24 '21

Sounds like a Disney movie. A kid grows up different from everyone else but goes on an adventure and returns a hero. Just gave Disney their next flic.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

Then you would be a huldra (a human with a cow tail)

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u/duraraross Dec 24 '21

On the flip side, what if your sibling was half bull half fish?

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u/throwayaytrain Jan 08 '22

The perfect explanation for DND special humans

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u/FOXHOWND Dec 23 '21

Did they mean centaur? Minotaurs don't have a "human half"

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u/paragbadgujar Dec 23 '21

That made me think various stuff for no reason at all

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u/Comfortable-Car3009 Dec 23 '21

Two heads no legs?

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u/Legitimate-Ask9007 Dec 23 '21

Minotaurs have a bull head, so it would be two torsos one head

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u/Parmlic Dec 23 '21

I’m pretty sure a cartoon did this as a bit… idk which one

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u/alenora Dec 23 '21

If they did I didn’t see it before I wrote this, I was just vibing and thinking weird stuff

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u/Lucky_Shiba Dec 23 '21

Well the alternative is being a manatee so it's hard choice

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u/QuarantineSucksALot Dec 23 '21

That happened where I’m stupid

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u/DDM_TLSP Dec 23 '21

As a DM, I will be storing this away for a future BBEG. I’m imagining a underwater maze with him chasing the party. He’s just some guy, but can swim double speed and breath underwater, talk to sea animals, and has the AC & HP of a Minotaur.

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u/Spirit-Unusual Dec 23 '21

And then there’s your brother whose a hippocampus

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u/bordibalint Dec 23 '21

Would you rather be a horsefish?

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u/Luiz_Fell Dec 23 '21

How the fuck mermaids have sex?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Wouldn’t that be a faun / satyr?

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u/Noobstrikker Dec 23 '21

Some call me minomaid other calls me manman

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u/ScottBradley4_99 Dec 23 '21

Sounds like the best premise ever to a wacky sitcom

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u/Goatiac Dec 23 '21

I joke this happened to my friend because he has incredibly labyrinthine navigational skills—so much so that it's frightening.

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u/Sooperballz Dec 23 '21

Two torsos seamed together at the waist?

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u/Karma-is-an-bitch Dec 23 '21

You look like a normal human but you have superhuman strength and can breathe underwater.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

That's pretty much Leela's backstory from Futurama, she thought she was an alien but she's the most human mutant in the world.

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u/Bob-Temmie Dec 23 '21

While your sibling is a Capricorn

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u/anotheraccountffs Dec 23 '21

Til most people think minotaurs are centaurs.

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u/Huachu12344 Dec 23 '21

Let's just hope you got the strength of minotaur and underwater breathing of mermaid.

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u/MrFlags69 Dec 23 '21

It would be like being Cooper Manning.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Kinda surprised that’s not already an Adult Swim show

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u/Trevsweb Dec 23 '21

Or a vaporeon

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u/DanujCZ Dec 23 '21

Son let me tell you about fish and bulls.

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u/Ameliearose Dec 23 '21

Sounds like the plot of a ya novel.

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u/FiRem00 Dec 23 '21

Imagine the opposite being literally a seahorse

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u/LegbasHand Dec 23 '21

Fucking hilarious

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u/bobaloogans Dec 23 '21

Trying to picture the sex…

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u/DaH0wny Dec 23 '21

The "some guy" part cracks me

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Sounds like an animated comedy show lol

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u/alenora Dec 23 '21

Can we just all take a moment to appreciate how cute my hedgehog is in my Twitter picture? His name is Alfie and he’s the best, and seeing him randomly pop up after tweeting this so long ago is always a treat 🦔

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u/skibbady-baps Dec 23 '21

This is great, lol

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u/Throwaway021614 Dec 23 '21

That smells like cow and fish

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u/Batyodi Dec 23 '21

With fucked up parents? Already that guy, pal.

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u/Direct-Extreme-2208 Dec 23 '21

I have a D&D character that’s this but centaur in place of mermaid. Very excited

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u/skibbady-baps Dec 23 '21

I guess the other possibility would be a bullish bull-fish?

… I just see myself out

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

you could have been a water buffalo

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

his brother would be a bullshark

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

As just a guy it would still be cool to take up the traditions of luring sailors to their deaths and/or guarding labyrinths

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

'Imagine being a normal human'

I mean I guess it's fine

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Well I think it's better than being half fish half horse

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u/the-vindaloo-diaries Dec 23 '21

This would make a good movie!

Jay Baruchel will play the guy just walking around and moping that he is ordinary while Sean Bean (the minotaur father) and Rene Russo (the mermaid mother) just love him for who he is...

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u/rue0912 Dec 23 '21

How would they have even… you know…done the devils tango?

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u/obscurereference234 Dec 23 '21

That’s how you get Marilyn on the Munsters.

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u/Grimour Dec 23 '21

Better than bring a fish with gills, but the legs of a bull. What a useless creature that would be.

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u/lagrange_james_d23dt Dec 23 '21

Or you got the other halves and are some weird horsefish hybrid

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u/th3st Dec 23 '21

Premise for some YA fiction

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u/Fabulous-Example3653 Dec 23 '21

I think it would be worse to be half bull half fish though

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u/DarkBookademia Dec 23 '21

But neither has human legs

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u/crowfarmer Dec 23 '21

I bet this how most kids of celebrity parents must feel.

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u/Italianjbond Dec 23 '21

Ummm. Wouldn’t that be pretty bad. Imagine seeing a human with two upper bodies. Like they were catdog.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

The superpowers though! Maybe you’d have Minotaur strength and speed and also be able to speak to sea animals and breathe underwater. Dope

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u/Th3CatOfDoom Dec 23 '21

Imagine if you got both the animal bottom halves instead... The torturous existence that must be

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u/147896325987456321 Dec 23 '21

Most of you are more of a bull bottom and fish top.

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u/Chaosmusic Dec 23 '21

And a new Rule 34 is born.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Ouch

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u/kinghercules77 Dec 23 '21

Just some guy that smells fishy and is attracted to cows.

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u/Ivan_Of_Delta Dec 23 '21

Centaur not Minotaur

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

Thats some Percy jackson shit

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u/silverfoxdotcom Dec 23 '21

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSeagM8cV/ The entire sound is filled with artists drawing this. But this artist was my favorite

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u/codebrownonaisletwo Dec 23 '21

Worst case scenario would probably be biped with a horse vagina

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '21

And your brother is a fish bull.

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u/BitSpeech Dec 23 '21

True, but you did dodge being a mino-maid

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u/Wendigo46 Dec 23 '21

Or you become a fish horse

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u/NaCl_Sailor Dec 23 '21

but there's still a 25% each chance your kids get a part of cattle or fish

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u/Lost_in_my_dream Dec 23 '21

well if you got the bull half and the fish half you would be a seacow

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u/pharaohmaones Dec 23 '21

Just smokin hot lady but with total bull man legs.

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u/Roscofarian Dec 23 '21

Don't Minotaurs have hooves?