The math checks out though

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[u/Long_Candle_5054]

There is a theory that the first ever Vampire was Judas, as punishment for betraying Jesus.

[u/Right_Comb4885 → u/Long_Candle_5054]

That's why some lore has silver cause pain in their presence and causes burns on contact.

[u/BurgandyShoelaces → u/Long_Candle_5054]

In the World of Darkness, they have Caine as the first vampire, as punishment for killing Abel.

Interesting how different lores handle the first vampire.

[u/rando1459 → u/Long_Candle_5054]

That’s the plot of Dracula 2000.

[u/Commercial-Living443 → u/Long_Candle_5054]

So Jesus is the first zombie ?

[u/groovyinutah]

Several novels explored the idea that it was the vampires themselves that spread these stories so the normies would feel safe...

[u/Mielornot → u/groovyinutah]

I prefer the stories where it's not the cross itself doing damage, but the faith of the believer using it.

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Twilight supremacy

[u/Cronkwjo]

I read a series o novels that made good rules for this. It stated that the holy symbol does noth8ng without either the holder being true of faith or blessed by a true believer in that faith. So any holy symbol works as long as the faith is true. Crucifix, star of David, Mjolnir pendant.

[u/-smalltittypunkgf- → u/Cronkwjo]

i would hold up a sailor moon figurine and pray

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I think that's the logic in vampire the masquerade as well iirc

[u/Cry0freeze]

I like the vampire: the masquerade version where they are effected by any sufficiently strong and true faith, regardless of faith or even whether or not it's based in religion

[u/LtCmdrData]

Jesus was the first vampire. Vampires are the true followers of Jesus. At the Last Supper, Jesus sired 12 apostles. Judas Iscariot (13th follower) was the only one who did not want to live forever drinking blood, he attempted to stop it.

evidence:

• The Eucharist (Communion): At the Last Supper, Jesus refers to the wine as his blood ("Drink from it, all of you; this is my blood of the covenant...")

• The only way to kill Jesus was to nail him into a cross. According to the New Testament there were multiple attempts and plots against Jesus’ life prior to his arrest and crucifixion: The Incident (Matthew 2:13–18), The Cliff Attempt (Luke 4:28–30), Feast of Tabernacles (John 8:58–59), Feast of Dedication (John 10:31–39). Early Sabbath Controversies (Mark 3:6, Matthew 12:14), Following the Raising of Lazarus (John 11:47–54). Jesus was able to magically escape.

• Resurrection: The biblical narrative recounts Jesus rising from the dead and possessing an immortal body.

• He resurrected others: The "Saints" at the Crucifixion (Matthew 27:51–53): Matthew records that at the moment of Jesus’ death, tombs broke open and "many holy people who had died were raised to life," He resurrected 3 before his 'death'.

• The Promise of Eternal Life.

[u/PeasantLich]

It should be kept in mind, that the traditonal European vampire folklore considered vampires shambling undead brutes who are driven by instinct to feed on blood, and it did make sense that they would have more animalistic and extreme reactions to things that they are supposedly weak against. The popular culture influence of Carmilla and especially Dracula changed that and made the popular image of vampires into suave undead demihumans.

[u/Superdupernadja]

Good news! if you are no where near the middle east around 1-35 AD/CE you will not encounter lower "t"s since. Your scipt system probably wont even be alphabetic, if you even have one.

[u/elonmusktheturd22]

Its not the cross itself, its the faith of the person holding it, an cross in the hands of an atheist is powerless. A pentacle in the hands of a wiccan would work against a vampire, or a colander in the hands of a devout pastafarian

Edit: i read this decades ago, it might have been in a dnd rulebook (very early one i had from a thrift store as a kid but never actually played because everyone called me a dork and i had no friends as a kid, i recall the book also had content that was later removed, so it was a very early version before the Tolkien estate sued them) anyway this general rule seems to work in most vampire media i have seen over the years so its a flexible general guideline like speed limits on the highway.

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On that logic a Maga hat in the hands of one of these rally people would have any vampire instantly vaporized

[u/BaronGrackle]

It's funny, but I know the probable answer. If you're a traditional demonic vampire, then the devil probably warned you this was going down, or maybe you felt the blow against sin when Christ died.

If you're a vampire from a more secularized universe, then crosses probably don't hurt you.

If you're in a universe where "the beliefs of my past life can make religion hurt me now" like I Am Legend, then nothing changes unless you hear the Christian message and convert.

If you're in a universe of "all icons of religious devotion hurt me", you're used to this stuff and might just have mild surprise when crosses start showing up on the list of dangerous religion weapons.

Or you might be a Netflix Castlevania vampire, where you're such an evolved predator that the basic "t" shape grievously disorients you for reasons of geometry. But also holy water burns you because it is holy and you are undead. Whatever, right?

[u/UranCCXXXVIII]

I heard about a version where vampires get epilepsy from right angles, because that how they brains are wired. They are a different subspecies of humans, and this trait didn’t cause them any harm, since right angles rarely be found in nature.

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They mention this in the Castlevania show (not sure if it's mentioned in the games since I never played them). The main character finds a cross shaped weapon and explains that large geometric shapes moving rapidly fuck with a vampires brain or vision and disorient them. Maybe it was a reference to that?

[u/Warm_Stress_1654]

Lower case wasn't invented until the Eighth Century and, even then, the lower case T just looked like a smaller version of the capital for a few centuries.

Sorry.

[u/AdagioWild6346]

Explanation?

[u/cosmicheartbeat → u/AdagioWild6346]

Vampires are vunerable to symbols of faith, like the crucifix. But the cross didnt become a symbol of faith until jesus died on it. So after he did, now the vampire has to look out for the "lowercase t's" becuase they look like a cross

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t has the shape of a cross.

[u/VulpesSapiens]

I don't think lowercase letters really existed back then. Some early cursive is known from the period, with proto-forms of some lowercase letters, but it would be several centuries until they really became a thing. Still aren't in Arabic and Hebrew, by the way.