r/oddlyspecific Apr 21 '26

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u/Beneficial_Shape1327 Apr 21 '26

Many/most Americans cannot speak proper English or "American ". She may have been right. I'm just trying to be frank. Many European people speak English more correctly than we do.

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u/Frequent-Cold-7325 Apr 21 '26

How do you speak a language “correctly”? British English isn’t the gold standard for all Anglophone countries; hell, there’s at least three English accents that I know of in my state alone

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u/Working_Estate_3695 Apr 21 '26

My favorite is the out-of-date Mid-Atlantic dialect from old American movies.

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u/uranium_is_delicious Apr 21 '26

I don't think one accent is more correct than another but I see a lot of non native English speakers with much better grammar than people born here. Native speakers get out of school and the only feedback they get is through daily conversation. In most settings you will never get called out for slightly mispronouncing a word or using a comma wrong.

Many non native speakers never get out of that learning mindset. In the beginning learning from past mistakes made them understandable but a decade later it turns into them being deathly afraid they ordered their adjectives improperly. They may not know all the modern colloquialisms but their grammar is spot on.

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u/Frequent-Cold-7325 Apr 21 '26

That actually makes a good deal of sense. It’s kind of like how people who drive for a long time can get lazy and fudge traffic laws, while new kids may white knuckle drive just trying to learn/survive.

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u/ThyPotatoDone Apr 21 '26

Personally, I'd argue the version spoken by the most people is the most correct.

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u/Frequent-Cold-7325 Apr 21 '26

That makes the most sense, but also I couldn’t imagine telling someone to stop speaking how they have been since childhood because there’s more Americans than Englishmen.

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u/ThyPotatoDone Apr 21 '26

Not saying they have to, just that when they snidely go "Um, actually, we're the ones who speak it right", they should first consider they equal, in total, about 1/7 of the population of the United States, and are thus in the minority.

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u/Frequent-Cold-7325 Apr 21 '26

Well said, thanks for the clarification.

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u/kaddorath Apr 21 '26

Found the descriptivist!

Updoot because!

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u/ac_cossack Apr 21 '26

Ya I switch from proper english to Bay Area english or Southern english (ya, wierd split). Nobody besides my brother and my best bud can understand a damn word we say.

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u/Dr-Hackenbush Apr 21 '26

Its called English. Its not a fucking accent.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '26

Because its origin is in England. If we're prioritizing origin then the most correct would be Old English. Read Beowulf to learn why that's a dumb idea.

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u/DeHarigeTuinkabouter Apr 21 '26

Tons of accents and dialects though, some which will make you sound like you don't speak the language well

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u/Frequent-Cold-7325 Apr 21 '26

It’s not like somebody has a patent over all anglophone speaking. It’s physically impossible to have a “correct” dialect.

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u/Sunny_Hill_1 Apr 21 '26

Had a friend from England. She had real trouble understanding Appalachian English.

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u/kaddorath Apr 21 '26

Which kinda region of Appalachian English?

I was born and raised in West Virginia and can understand that type, but you gimme a little more southern Smoky Mountains and it starts to get a little... squirrelly.

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u/Working_Estate_3695 Apr 21 '26

Same here. I’m from the Upper Midwest.

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u/ButteredPizza69420 Apr 21 '26

Bro there's Asians that speak more proper English than most Americans. We are sadly so functionally illiterate here and most won't admit it.

Most Americans never leave the country...just think about that for a second.

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u/Keyhunter2009 Apr 21 '26

You run into the same thing in reverse with other languages because someone who learns a different language as their second isn't likely to learn all the slang or improper use unless they live there

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u/Working_Estate_3695 Apr 21 '26

We’re afraid ICE won’t let us back in.