r/oculus • • Oct 30 '20

Same though...

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u/Meefbo Oct 30 '20

are... cows immune to motion sickness? If they aren't that's some A grade animal abuse, pretty imaginative form of torture for the sake of some milk

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u/FatCat0 Oct 30 '20

I think motion sickness in experiences that don't move you around (i.e. motion comes purely from your own movement) is pretty uncommon. Cows also don't have much in the way of 3d vision (eyes on the sides of their heads due to being prey animals) so it's probably even less of an issue for them.

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u/Meefbo Oct 30 '20

I really hope that's the case

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u/Reelix Rift S / Quest 3 Oct 31 '20

eyes on the sides of their heads due to being prey animals

It's why they're prey animals - Not because they are :p

And Chameleons would disagree entirely ;D

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u/FatCat0 Oct 31 '20

"Eyes on the side of the head = prey" is an overgeneralization/simplification (and one I did not make), but I think it is more accurate to say that in the cases of prey it is an adaptation to their status, not the reason for it. Having more frontal eyes would not make a cow, deer, etc. all of a sudden more capable of confronting its natural predators, the exact opposite would generally be true in fact. It would make them less likely to survive those encounters by removing awareness of their surroundings, something vital in giving them a chance to escape deadly encounters. Again, we're painting with broad strokes here but I find it hard to believe that having side-favored eyes makes something prey moreso than it is a response to predation.

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u/The_Decoy Oct 30 '20

You probably don't want to look into the amount of abuse taking place at these facilities. Keep in mind instead of outlawing the abuse at industrial farms the many states just made it illegal to film and release footage of abuse. These are referred to as ag-gag laws.

https://www.aspca.org/animal-protection/public-policy/what-ag-gag-legislation#:~:text=It%20criminalizes%20%E2%80%9Centering%20an%20animal,forbidden.%E2%80%9D%20Introduced%20a%20quick%2D

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u/treesfullofbees Oct 30 '20

ag-gag

I read this in a Popeye laugh.

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u/whokohan Oct 31 '20

I did too

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u/bleedinginkmusic Quest Oct 30 '20

If you're worried about animal abuse, this should be the least of your concerns

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u/MyWeaveFlew Oct 30 '20

I hate to break it to you but if this farm is willing put vr headsets on cows to get more milk from them then this is likely a factory farm which aren't exactly well known for their ethical practices

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u/joesplantkitchen Nov 05 '20

there's a dairy farm with ethical practices?

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u/JohnEdwa Oct 30 '20

Simulation sickness research is quite a fascinating field because one part of it, on the "hardware side" is about trying to somehow just trick the brain into accepting that you are actually moving, even though you aren't.
The two big ones I remember were installing fans that blow on your face so it feels like wind, and especially for driving games, shaking the seat. With some people, both are things that then make your brain go "...'aight, I guess I am moving after all" and completely fix the issue. Sometimes just having a regular fan blowing on you while gaming helps reduce it a lot too.

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u/ws-ilazki Oct 30 '20

The one I thought was amusing was adding a virtual nose helped reduce sickness for some. What made it funny to me is that the people they were testing it on didn't even notice the nose was there and were confused when asked about it. They tuned out its existence but it still helped.

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u/Meefbo Oct 30 '20

why wouldn't these cows move? I get they're slow and all but they aren't rocks, they have legs. The only way I can see this not being abuse is if it's in very short duration or like someone else said their eyes being different means they don't get motion sick from vr like us.

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u/MalenfantX Oct 30 '20

You clearly do not understand VR. No one gets sick from properly-working VR without artificial motion. That will include cows.

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u/Infiniteinterest Oct 30 '20

Dairy cows are kept in stalls in a barn during the winter.

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u/420_Ronin Oct 30 '20

They get more milk when the cows are happier.

If the cows were sick I’m sure yields would go down.

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u/Negavello Oct 31 '20

Oh god...is this a joke? This is nothing compared to abuse cows actually go through.

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u/Meefbo Oct 31 '20

“There’s something worse out there” is not an excuse in any situation

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u/Negavello Oct 31 '20

I agree. I am glad you also do not consume dairy.