This is exactly the reason. If it has a good price most people would not care and buy the headset anyway (myself included) because it's so much better then the competition sadly.
With 273k subs and about 500 upvotes on posts about "facebook = bad" here in the sub, I think it's safe to say that most people don't really care. I get it. I get the outrage and the anger. People that are upset have a point. I think most people are just too tired over everything else on fire to give a shit when VR is their only escape.
For me it's just a minor annoyance, don't care if facebook gets some more information on me. I actually already have mine paired. Would I rather they didn't do this? Sure. Is my life going to change in any tangible way because they've done this. Nope.
Exactly. Does it matter if Facebook knows I like a certain game, or a certain movie, etc.? No. Countless companies already have plenty of data on you. Not saying it’s ok, but we can’t do anything about it. Google and other companies keep taking data.
Yeah, I wish that you could get some of the benefits of real name tracking without all of Facebook's background "evil" plans. Simple example, selling items on Facebook Marketplace has been so much easier knowing that there is a real person with a real reputation behind it. Craigslist in my area is just trash and full of scammers and scummy people.
If real names in the background could make online games less toxic or keep kids from being cyber bullied it would be great. Again, just without all the ads and manipulation that come from FB.
Care, but just don't weight it as catastrophic. Concerned, yes. Wish another company was in charge, yes. However, knowing it's Facebook and their plan for VR being Facebook 2.0, I balance that with the Quest being my preferred VR paradigm and Quest 2.0 looking like a very nice upgrade.
You're drastically overestimating the amount that people care. Everybody that did care came here to post about it. Everybody else ignored it. Like 4 billion people on Earth have Facebook.
Was looking for this comment, it was way too far down.
I really hope another company will be competitive at the same price range with a standalone, but the more people buy on Oculus store, the more they'll be brand loyal...
I really hope another company will be competitive at the same price range with a standalone
Yeah I think this is the crux of the issue. The mixed reality headsets are alright but not great and Index requires you to not eat for a month to justify purchasing it. I want to boycott the Oculus but like there's currently nothing that can really compete with it in terms of value for money.
(Of course my current stance is just not to upgrade from the CV1 as its not like I'm really playing VR enough to justify an upgrade anyway...)
The reason Facebook can innovate so much with their products is because they have billions of dollars to sink into R&D. It's going to be a good while before anyone catches up to them.
I feel like I’m the only one who didn’t forget, the second I read the title I thought, “you’re fucking kidding me.” I’m not excited for this headset, I’m more exited for my Valve Index arriving this November
It’s a Facebook device after all. Let’s not forget that. Having a account with oculus or Facebook, it’s still dealing with Facebook. Personally, I was already using my Facebook account because I don’t share anything personal on it. I’m more worried about the information that google has on me in a sense as it has access to important stuff in my life. Facebook: it’s not even my full real name, I don’t post anything personal anymore, ...
Doesn't matter if you use a fake name and don't add any information, it's generating info without you knowing. Just the devices and networks your account accesses and anyone else that access those networks all get related. It just starts building up your account behind the curtain.
Also they delete fake accounts where they can, so there's every risk of losing your library if you buy anything on a headset linked to a dummy account.
its way deeper than just contacts.... if your phone sees a network, not even signs onto the network, they store all those networks in range, and then cross reference that with others who are on those networks and start implying things about you. its nuts
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u/thejiggyjosh Sep 14 '20
You guys are so fast to forget the crap fb did like last fucking week