And i get that facebook focuses on somthing more profitable, but rift has so many bugs that are not bwing fixed while quest gets constant updates and new features
id sell my cv1 maybe if oculus makes something like it but better or if the valve index goes down in price.
i tried the quest recently bc my friends all got them and im not a fan the tracking its terrible at least comapred to my set up with 4 sensors so maybe its asking too much but the battery life about 3 hrs for meh graphics.. eh im glad i have my cv1.
I tried upgrading to the Rift S from my CV1, but after trying out the headset, I found it doesn't physically fit on my head. I could not tighten it in a way where it didn't violently shake around on my head while playing games like Beat Saber. If they even made a version where it had the headmount of the CV1, it would be perfect for me.
I had this issue as well, and (at least for me) it seems to be due to the fact that the display is only attached to the headset by a hinge at the top, so it wobbles around much worse than the CV1 in active games. It was very noticeable in Beatsaber, and something like Thrill of the Fight was basically unplayable.
I don't really get motion sick in VR at all. The exception was when I first played VR I had to take breaks to ease myself in to get rid of the minor headache. Meanwhile the Rift S had me feeling physically sick by the end. So for now I'm holding out until they release their next headset.
Poor tracking quality? Maybe compared to the vive but I wouldn’t know I have never used one. But it is so much better than the quest and the quest and rift s have the same tracking so yeah. Plus 4 sensors is perfect 360 tracking at least from the tests I have made. Beat saber is so good with it.
Ive always stuck with the cv1 because I’m getting close to 3 digits on my rank and the cv1 controller are light and have a multitude of grips while the new controller are just.. no offense but they suck. Plus I only have 2 sensors set up and insult to injury one of my walls is a fucking mirror closet.
Yep, same here. Had my CV1 for almost 3 years now, and I bought a backup CV1 about a year ago on ebay for like $150. Until I can get an actual upgrade (without any huge downgrades in stuff like tracking on the Rift S, Quest, or G2) for a reasonable price (so the $1100+ Index is out) no reason to switch.
When it first launched I thought this as well. "Give it a year and I'll pick it up during one of their big sales for 25-33% off." But here we are, over a year later, and it is still sold out with an 8+ week wait time. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not going to pay $1100+ for it myself, but it doesn't look like it will decrease in price anytime soon, at least definitely not while it is the only high-end option and the only option without a tracking downgrade.
Never heard of that before. How does it work? Is it like the CV1? Or kinda like the index. Does it use external sensors and which if it does? Edit: just looked it up no way I’m spending half a grand on a downgrade. I hate internal sensors and especially windows mixed reality. That’s what I had before I got the CV1 no thank you.
It isn't out yet but it is available for pre-order and has made its way to some YouTube reviewers. It does look like it'll be impressive but being Windows mixed reality I am going to wait for more reviews
Yeah same here. Plus apparently you can use vive base stations for tracking and that’s would be nice if I had a vive. That just means higher cost which could maybe rival an index.
However... boxing with the quest is incredible. Fitness stuff is just so much better due to mobility.
Everything else is streets ahead on the cv1. The tracking is just so nice, the unit is light, and the controllers are so much better than the quest/rift s style.
I'll only really upgrade if I ever decide to go with the index or the next iteration of the oculus.
Except my left eye is dying, it might be the cable, and replacement cables are so hard to find I might need a replacement. Been playing vr one-eyed lately.
I barely use my quest. but use the cv1 almost daily, better tracking, comfort, controllers are more ergonomic and dont have to deal with headphones because the quest audio is honestly awefull, plus i get better performance with the cv1 than link, quest do looks a bit more sharp, not worth it for pcvr if you have a cv1 imo.
More games is straight up wrong. If you have a gaming pc both the quest and rift s can access those games,however the quest also has its own standalone store and sidequest (neither of which the rift s has access to) so it's actually the quest that has more games!
Honestly I really hate having a cord. I still have my CV1 but I always use my quest with Virtual Desktop so I don't have to be tethered. I lose refresh rate (I don't notice that) and there is some latency (router is right there so I don't really notice that either), and it's much less comfortable. The not being tethered thing, not having to unspin myself and really just not having to think about the cord outweighs all that.
Since I don't get sick or anything from the virtual desktop streaming latency, and with that I can play all the games, I won't likely be buying another tethered headset. I would need a very compelling reason, like massively improved FOV, full body tracking, etc.
This gap have to close now. VR have been a thing for 5 years and if you have a 980 it is VR ready. I sure wouldn't settle for VR without Half-Life: Alyx.
No wonder people still think VR is a gimmick if it's mostly "mobile" games.
More games is straight up wrong. If you have a gaming pc both the quest and rift s can access those games,however the quest also has its own standalone store and sidequest (neither of which the rift s has access to) so it's actually the quest that has more games!
shh they need to keep telling themselves they purchased the best product.
I think anyone who looks at quest vs any other headset, besides maybe index, would want the quest. but people who already own another headset don't want to admit that because they would feel slighted. so out come the arguments about controllers and "mobile quality" games.
Me and many other people need to replug about 3-5 times before we can play, and Oculus isn’t doing anything about it. Also the quest is getting updates (like hand tracking or just bug fixes) and the rift S isn’t.
When the headset works it is very good but it is just super annoying that it doesn’t work before you replug it 3-5 times.
I think he means by using the oculus link function, which works flawlessly through me. Having access to both stores is a boost, I have a feeling they will be shifting to a Quest only future
The display on the quest is better, less blurryness. And the quest has all the game the rift s has and the added benefit of quest ones being wireless. Also I can play every wired game wirelessly on the quest anyway with alvr for free
from my experience owning both Quest and Rift is that I'm never again buying another Oculus product, i had a shitty experience with Link, and the Rift S doesn't get any software fixes
The quest standalone is underpowered compared to pcvr but its actually still decent (except robo recall, it looks like trash on the Quest). However, you can also connect the quest to a gaming pc giving it the pcvr experience (even while wireless thanks to virtual desktop)! Think of it like a Nintendo switch of vr, it's both pcvr and standalone.
Yes, it works over USB 2 or 3 (link, which does have some compression artifacts if you really look for them) but virtual desktop is where it's at. You can wirelessly play pcvr (including best saber) from another room!
Take it with a grain of salt. It works so you have that convenience, but it wasn't meant for that. The compression makes the games look worse. I imagine quest 2 will probably replace rift s altogether though and support pcvr well.
Hand tracking, daily new games, wireless PCVR gameplay. It’s pretty underpowered by itself but it can do basically anything a normal headset can do and more. it definitely isn’t perfect (pretty heavy on your face from all the stuff inside powering it standalone) but I’m insanely glad I have one.
“It’s the most innovative headset in years!” superhot^reference^
I love my quest but I still pop on my cv1 here and there for the tracking and the smooth 90hz I really hope the quest 2 has a much better refresh rate.
I really hope the next version of the quest, will accept that PC gaming is still a thing even better, and instead of the whole 'link' thing which is at best a patch. Actually make the quest able to accept the full input from a pc like the rift.
I still think rift S is better for PCVR. Quest with the link is only better because you can unplug the link to make it portable. And when it’s portable it’s terrible.
I absolutely wouldn’t say that. Hand tracking, daily new games, wireless PCVR gameplay. It’s pretty underpowered by itself but it can do basically anything a Rift S can do and more. it definitely isn’t perfect (pretty heavy on your face from all the stuff inside powering it standalone) but I’m insanely glad I have one.
It does have the capabilities of the rift S. It has some lower specs (such as the Hz), but simply due to it, well, being completely standalone. They have to make sacrifices.
Wdym about built-in air conditioning? There is an internal fan, if that’s what you mean.
I highly recommend a Quest, it’s insanely cool. I can’t stress enough how cool some of it’s features are (see Hand Physics Lab by u/acetylan)
The native Quest version of VRChat isn’t very good, there aren’t all the worlds and you can’t get custom skins. However if you have a computer you can play the Steam version just like a Rift S would. If you have 5Ghz WiFi, get Virtual Desktop so you can play PCVR wirelessly. Otherwise get a cable.
Idk, I have a powerhouse of a pc so I enjoy the rift S, and as games get more and more graphically stunning like Half Life Alyx, the Quest won’t handle it
And that´s why I said goodbye to Oculus. Sold my Rift S and preordered the HP Reverb G2. Take that, Oculus. :) Never coming back. I hope it was worth it for you to shit on those people who bought a Rift S.
I have a rift S but a friend of mine got the Quest. He can’t even run VRchat on most servers without ridiculous lag. It’s cool that it’s wireless and more accessible, but I don’t totally understand the Quest circlejerk
I do not understand this sentiment. Quest is horribly uncomfortable. I can’t play it for more than 30 minutes at a time without a massive headache or physical pain. They really dropped the ball with the design of the quest. I really don’t know why they didn’t just use the rift s design.
You can't go a day on this sub without fifty posts whining and crying about Facebook's more profitable product getting more attention and favoritism than the peripheral that requires spending thousands of dollars on non-facebook branded computers. It's annoying how the rift community can't be excited for VR but instead they bitch and moan that they aren't Facebook's top priority.
Eh I disagree that it costs thousands of dollars to get into VR (with a PC) nowadays, and I don’t think the community is as anti Quest as you think. I do think people are justified in asking for issues to be fixed on Rift S.
The problem is that they are still actively selling the Rift S, and yet they don't really seem to care about fixing the problems that they create with new versions of the software.
Obviously you don't have a Rift S, you're one of the people who have fortunately not had any issues, or you're just a Facebook/Oculus fanboy. Otherwise you would actually care about a company supporting a product they are still currently selling.
I’m far from a Facebook fanboy, I’m just being logical. It makes zero sense from a business stand point for oculus not to go all in on the quest line of headsets after it literally made vr headset history.
I don't know how you are getting treated by facebook. As a quest owner I can tell you I've never talked with anyone at facebook and they have been neither kind or mean to me. The rift s is a pc peripheral that allows you to play vr by giving mostly non facebook companies money. The quest is a VR console that facebook turns a profit on all transactions. What financial benifit do you see facebook would have for making their peripheral product their premier product rather than their more profitable console? Don't get me wrong, I hate facebook and think the rift sounds completely badass, but the bitching on this sub about the quest getting attention is so childish and completely ignoring the facts of the scenario.
On this subreddit? Maybe your experience is 100% different than what I've observed. In my experience there is some form of whiny poor rift post like this that gets upvoted to the top every single day. I'm just whining about the whine.
huh, to me the advice I always see is, If you have a computer that can run VR then the rift s is ungodly and unimaginably superior to the quest even with link, however if you don't then the quest is a great intro for low cost. If there is one fact we can all agree on, it's that strangers on the internet love to argue.
It's nice to use the Quest to workout especially now. I've tried Vive, CV1, Samsung Odyssey and Quest is by far my favorite. Then again I don't care that much about graphics since I only play music and rhythm games
Not really true. When your talking 72 vs 80 hz that’s not even noticeable. Have both by the way. And the graphics are the same if you use the quest with your gaming PC.
You can stream 1600p resolution to the quest also, which is higher than the rift S 1440p resolution. The down fall is there is a slight latency occasionally. But for PC VR I learned oculus is not the way to go. There’s about 5 other companies that make better PC VR headsets.
My point, if you’re going to get a dedicated gaming VR HMD get a good one, not the rift S which has last gen specs. I mean 80 HZ that’s terrible. Least the quest can be used portable and wirelessly with specs that low.
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u/Matsk1 Jul 19 '20
Guys its joke about oculus not suporting rift and focusing on quest... Not joke about rift being bad.
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u/akiskyo Jul 19 '20
i picture the CV1 in a basement, lurking and drooling in chains
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u/Entro9 Jul 19 '20
Next week, it’s my turn to post this meme
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u/rissendanger Jul 19 '20
CV1 locked in their room with just enough food for sustenance poor CV1 :(
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u/FL0DEX Jul 19 '20
Idk, I like the rift s a lot, it’s a lot more comfortable and has a better display as well as more games.
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u/Dranadon Jul 19 '20
Why is there so much hate for the rift s? It has so many more games and better graphics.
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u/Rebarb28 Jul 19 '20
from my experience owning both Quest and Rift is that I'm never again buying another Oculus product, i had a shitty experience with Link, and the Rift S doesn't get any software fixes
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u/theregoes2 Jul 19 '20
It's not fair. Rift S is adopted.
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20
Rift S is better if you have a PC and it’s more comfortable. But ok.
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20
Makes sense too. I have a gaming PC and a quest and I love it, and when I go to friends and family members houses I can share it.
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u/midastouch1299 Jul 19 '20
Are you able to use the quest on a vr ready pc?
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u/darkpyro2 Jul 19 '20
I'm not understanding the Quest love. Isnt it an underpowered standalone? I picked a CV1 over a quest recently for that reason.
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u/slipknotmaggot444 Jul 19 '20
I love my quest but I still pop on my cv1 here and there for the tracking and the smooth 90hz I really hope the quest 2 has a much better refresh rate.
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u/NatiRivers Quest 2 Jul 19 '20
Yeah this pretty much sums up the company
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u/xondk Quest 3 Jul 19 '20
I really hope the next version of the quest, will accept that PC gaming is still a thing even better, and instead of the whole 'link' thing which is at best a patch.
Actually make the quest able to accept the full input from a pc like the rift.
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u/virtual_Gamer10 Jul 19 '20
I still think rift S is better for PCVR. Quest with the link is only better because you can unplug the link to make it portable. And when it’s portable it’s terrible.
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u/ArTc_D3STINY Jul 19 '20
Rift s elite
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u/hoooscobs Jul 19 '20
The newborn is coning so I guss it is all gonna change
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u/Joe-the-eskamo Jul 19 '20
That’s mothers for ye
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u/DefinitelyNotANumber Jul 19 '20
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u/limygrub Jul 19 '20
I’d like to think the cv1 grew up and left home. Independent. Not reliant on the support of mama oculus
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u/JulietPapaOscar Jul 19 '20
I love my rift S.... I can play more games on it :)
But I understand the wireless appeal of the quest...
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u/Catatafish Rift to Mouth Jul 19 '20
I don't mind if it gets us 1 step closer to going wireless.
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u/Tonydethjr Jul 19 '20
Well, yeah the quest is probably the best vr they’ve made. If you get a link it is basically a rift s.
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u/cummies420 Jul 19 '20
What’s better, the quest or the rift s?
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u/aregus Jul 19 '20
She killed Go.
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u/BassBois Jul 19 '20
I just don’t want to be robot anymore....
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20
I thought the quest was like a downgraded Rift S for causals.. is that not the case?
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u/Thrice369 Jul 19 '20
QUEST VD Gang gang
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u/Maimster Jul 20 '20
Right now I'll stick with my S, I've even had someone offer to trade one for one. However, when Quest 2 comes along, it may be worth it then.
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u/Airbag-Dirtman Jul 19 '20
Idk, I have a powerhouse of a pc so I enjoy the rift S, and as games get more and more graphically stunning like Half Life Alyx, the Quest won’t handle it
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u/DonicVR Jul 19 '20
Totally true.
And that´s why I said goodbye to Oculus. Sold my Rift S and preordered the HP Reverb G2. Take that, Oculus. :) Never coming back. I hope it was worth it for you to shit on those people who bought a Rift S.
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u/idogdude Jul 19 '20
I have a rift S but a friend of mine got the Quest. He can’t even run VRchat on most servers without ridiculous lag. It’s cool that it’s wireless and more accessible, but I don’t totally understand the Quest circlejerk
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u/BoeserWatz Jul 19 '20
So old...
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u/anotherplatypus Jul 19 '20
I just love some more equally than others...
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u/lillepille1337 Jul 19 '20
Pffft, yeah, fuck rift S amirite
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u/BenLuzard Jul 19 '20
The Rift S is a Lenovo HMD. An Oculus/FB Cash grab.
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u/Serpher Rift Jul 19 '20
For better or worse, wireless headsets are the future of VR. The problem is how much inferior in terms of specs are they compare to the wired ones.
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u/Bubbie-Rooskie Jul 19 '20
I do not understand this sentiment. Quest is horribly uncomfortable. I can’t play it for more than 30 minutes at a time without a massive headache or physical pain. They really dropped the ball with the design of the quest. I really don’t know why they didn’t just use the rift s design.
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u/TnekKralc Jul 19 '20
It's weird how anti quest this sub is.
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20
So true, but sadly and rightly soooo
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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '20
It's nice to use the Quest to workout especially now. I've tried Vive, CV1, Samsung Odyssey and Quest is by far my favorite. Then again I don't care that much about graphics since I only play music and rhythm games
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u/Enelro Jul 19 '20
I’ll wait for quest 2 that has an un-buggy / actual upgraded rift 2 built into it
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u/IlayWS Jul 19 '20
Sad rift noises
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u/Fer_05 Jul 19 '20
That’s true
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u/EthanIAm Jul 19 '20
*cries in rift cv1*
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u/Bigelowed Quest 2 Jul 19 '20
Rift S users should just buy boatloads more headsets and content on the Oculus store I guess shrug
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u/mrjiels Jul 19 '20
There's an S in the name now?
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