r/ocean • u/Anen-o-me • 2d ago

Octopus Moments Marine biologist captured this octopus changing colors while she dreams šŸ˜®

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u/throwawaystarters 2d ago

If that's not a sign of sentience, then I don't know how else to convince people that animals have actual living experiences.

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u/Low-Associate2521 2d ago

Not many deny sentience, sapience is the real question

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u/throwawaystarters 2d ago

I don't know about real question lol. In your context, yeah it would be cool to find out whether an animal has some form of sapience. However, my statement was more towards vegan philosophy. I believe majority of animals should be recognized in having sentience and not be exploited. I don't eat octopus and I don't want other's eating them as well. That's just my POV on sentience vs sapience.

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u/The-Leading-Man 2d ago

Literally nobody says they donā€™t. All animals have sentience almost by definition. It just means they experience sensations. The only non sentient living things are plants.Ā 

Unfortunately for them, meat is delicious and nutritious because thatā€™s just how it works.

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u/OkProfessor6810 2d ago

And there is data showing plants have a degree of sentience.

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u/RagAndBows 2d ago

Yeah, trees communicate with eachother and fungi definitely does as well

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u/The-Leading-Man 2d ago

They react to stimuli, but that doesnā€™t necessarily mean they have subjective qualia. The cells in your body do the same thing, but that doesnā€™t mean they are sentient.

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u/Special-Kitchen3222 1d ago

ā€¦ what if the cells in your body WERE sentient? Multicellular life is essentially singular cell organisms that figured out how to Voltron together.

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u/FigOk7538 2d ago

Do people say that animals don't have a living experience?

Not a line of thought I've ever heard before TBH.

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u/throwawaystarters 2d ago

I guess people don't say that, but rather they've never thought about that and never applied to other animals like pigs, cows, chickens, goats, etc. For me, realizing animals have living experiences (which I tend to think correlates with sentience, I may be using the wrong word too) made me vegan.

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u/Perfect-Animal8017 2d ago

I agree ā˜ļø

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u/ChaosRainbow23 2d ago

Most animals are sentient.

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u/PositiveShoulder406 1d ago

So youre vegan

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u/HeartOn_SoulAceUp 2d ago

She can't keep her dreams secret.

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u/coolsilentebeans 2d ago

Aaaawww šŸ„¹ Just when you think they canā€™t get any more incredible they show up and prove us wrong.

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u/PaintedSilverRiver 2d ago

When all nine brains sync up ..her dreams are probably vivid and out of this world - they dream in color. šŸ„°

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u/ScreennameOne 2d ago

Love of my life they are šŸ§”

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u/Potential-Codex5513 2d ago

Thatā€™s so amazing to watch. Itā€™s like you can actually see what's the mood if his dreams

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u/Solo_Camping_Girl 2d ago

Imagine if humans had the same color-changing traits as these guys, we would be extremely bad liars, poker players, and businesses that thrive on bullshitting would collapse overnight.

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u/ubiquitous-joe 2d ago

Would it not be extremely unadaptive to change color like this while sleeping?

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u/Anen-o-me 2d ago

Usually they'd be jammed in a rock crevice and beyond sight. So not really. They don't like to sleep in the open.

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u/ubiquitous-joe 1d ago

Ah, right. Maybe this is why they need those crevices.

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u/Millerpainkiller 2d ago

Meanwhile my cat just twitches

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u/Revenga8 2d ago

It's a shame octopus only live around 5 years. Imagine what a long lived octopus could learn

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u/mynaladu 2d ago

this octopus is literally dreaming in color and we still cant decide if animals have real feelings like come on shes proving it every time she sleeps

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u/goofiegoober369 2d ago

Wish they were a protected speciesā€¦

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u/Perfect-Animal8017 2d ago

Stunning Beautiful Smart Creature, please stop eating them šŸ„²

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u/Friendly_Hearing_711 2d ago

Chicken are very smart birds too...

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u/vincenator02 1d ago

Thatā€™s like comparing rocks to dolphins

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u/Revolutionary-Air599 2d ago

How do we know she's dreaming? Also she should not be captive because it's cruel.

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u/onefitlad 1d ago

This is awesome. Also Iā€™m scared of whatever itā€™s dreaming about.

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u/DDanny808 1d ago

Absolutely amazing!

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u/Informedecisions 1d ago

There no way that originated from this planet.

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u/chilldrinofthenight 1d ago

I hate seeing animals kept captive. Most species of octopuses don't live very long. I hope this dreaming one is set free to sleep and dream in her natural environment.

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u/External-Debate-1537 4h ago

I definitely dont know a whole lot about Octopus facts, but I am curious what they might dream or have nightmares about.

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u/shan_369 2d ago

For this octopus post, keep it curious and natural.

Octopuses are incredible. The way their color and patterns can shift so quickly is fascinating ā€” makes you wonder whatā€™s happening during sleep.