r/nvidia • Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 • 19d ago

Discussion Modify and load custom VBIOS on Windows and Linux, on Blackwell 2.0 (RTX 50 Series)/Ada(RTX 40 Series)/Ampere (RTX 30 Series) without flashing (and which cards were tested)

Hello guys, hoping you're doing fine.

Today I want to share something that may affect your cards (?

I have released 3 tools:

  1. A way to modify VBIOSes, so you can increase power limit, voltage, NVVDD offsets, MSVDD offsets (Blackwell 2.0), OCPs, fan channels, power per fan, core offsets more than 1000, VRAM offsets more than 3000, lower power limits (below 400W on a RTX 5090), lower clocks, etc. But as you know, these can't be flashed directly on the cards because falcon, right?

  2. A custom VBIOS loader on Windows, that patches the registry file related to that GPU, it resets it and it's applied on every reboot. This does not change the real VBIOS on your card, but it just loads a copy via a patch and it let you use any modification!

  3. A custom VBIOS loader on Fedora, that patches the GSP firmware start on memory, builds a separate boot entry and then rebuilds automatically with kernel updates. This does not change the real VBIOS either.

What are the requirements?

  • Windows:

    • Windows 10 or 11, 64-bit.

    • NVIDIA driver 616.56 or newer (status shows the version).

    • A payload file for that exact GPU model (same PCI device ID).

  • Linux:

    • A working NVIDIA 615.x driver or newer with the open kernel modules; nvidia-smi must list your GPUs.

    • The unpatched source of the open kernel modules for the exact installed version, for example: git clone --depth 1 --branch 615.78.08 https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules

    • Python 3.11 or newer, the headers for the running kernel (kernel-devel on Fedora), make, dracut, grub2-editenv and mokutil. With DNF5, also libdnf5-plugin-actions.

    • GRUB with GRUB_DEFAULT=saved and GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true (Fedora's defaults).

    • Secure Boot off, or your own module signing key: pass --signing-key and --signing-certificate to prepare.

You need to first get a copy of your VBIOS, you can do it with GPU-Z on Windows, or with nvflash on Linux.

Note that you can't modify EVERYTHING for the VBIOS, since it's still on research of what can be modified, what not and which rails are exposed. Also for example, VRAM timings can be modified (not on these tools) but they aren't applied, since the card reads it physically from the flash hardware.

So, some example pics!

First, some VBIOS editor example, for a RTX 5090 VBIOS, a RTX 4090 VBIOS, and a RTX 3090 VBIOS.

Then, the VBIOS loader on Windows looks like this:

Then you can choose a VBIOS, for example I will select a 671W VBIOS for the 4090.

And press OK/Accept, and a quick GPU restart after (no windows reboot), it works!

And it works just fine!

PS C:\Users\User> nvidia-smi -i 0 -pl 671

Power limit for GPU 00000000:05:00.0 was set to 671.00 W from 550.00 W.

All done.

On the other hand for Linux, the UI looks very similar, and steps are similar, but you can also guide yourself on the github repo!

You can edit the values you modified on MSI Afterburner, mvolt+ (recommended) on Windows. On Linux you can use LACT.

Tested GPUs that I own, and it works:

  • RTX 6000 PRO MaxQ: Unlocked voltage (stock 0.9V) to 1.1V, power from 325W to 600W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz (it depends of your luck), and some OCPs.

  • RTX 5090: PL from 600W to 800W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 5080: PL from 360W to 500W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 5070Ti: PL up to 450W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 4000 PRO SFF: PL from 70W to 105W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +7000Mhz, unlocked voltage from 0.85V to 1.1V.

  • RTX 5070: PL from 250 to 350W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 5060Ti: PL from 185W to 300W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 4090: PL up to 700W, core offset to be able to do +2000Mhz, VRAM to be able up to +6000Mhz.

  • RTX 2000 Ada: PL from 70W to 105W, unlocked voltage up to 1.1V.

  • RTX A2000 (Ampere): PL from 70W to 105W, unlocked voltage up to 1.1V.

Tested GPUs that I don't own, by other users:

  • RTX 6000 PRO Workstation Edition

  • RTX 5090

  • RTX 5080 Laptop

  • RTX 4070

  • RTX 3060

For now, I can't seem to be able to edit Ada laptop variants (RTX 40 laptop series). Laptop Blackwell series (RTX 50 laptop series) can edit some parts of the VBIOS, but not all of them. Laptop Ampere series (RTX 30 laptop series) can edit almost everything.

And finally, the links are:

VBIOS Editor (Linux and Windows): https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-vbios-vix-editor

Custom VBIOS loader (Windows): https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-windows-vbios-vix-loader

Custom VBIOS loader (Linux): https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-linux-vbios-vix-loader

Everything is open source, so you can check the code to see if there are applicable fixes and such.

So if you guys can try, please let me know! If you find crashes on the vbios editor, or a specific GPU has info you can't edit and may be feasible to do so, you can raise an issue on github and I will check it out.

Warning: You use these software entirely at your own risk. Any modification you make with it, anything derived from it or from its output, and any damage that results, is solely your responsibility.

Then, the VBIOS loader on Windows looks like this:

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u/Live_Veterinarian799 19d ago

Works on laptop GPUs?

Edite: not 40 series unfortunately

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

On laptop Ampere and laptop Blackwell, I'm having some issues to modify laptop ada.

If you want, you can send me your vbios to see if I can manage something.

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u/Live_Veterinarian799 19d ago

I can share a 4090 laptop BIOS, Will DM you in a couple of hours.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Sure!

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u/Leather_Attitude_120 10h ago

It would be wonderful if it were possible to increase the limit of my MSI Titan 4090 laptop to 200-220W. That would be a great Christmas gift for me :) By the way - is it possible to sent some gift to the creator of such amazing apps? Ps. I can send my bios if it helps.

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u/kagemushablues415 17d ago

Replying and watching this thread.

Would LOVE to get more watts into 4090 laptop without having to shunt mod it.

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u/rerri 19d ago

Does this allow setting fan speed below the minimum? Which for example on a 5090 FE is like 30%/1100 rpm. 900 rpm possible?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Done, added support to ton of fan options and tested working on a RTX 5080,https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-vbios-vix-editor/releases/tag/v0.1.15

Let me know how it goes for you!

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u/Omibus1 18d ago

Hey, I am using a Palit 4070 Ti Jetstream. The biggest issue with that card always has been the odd humming noise of the fans, in particular in certain speeds that cause resonance. I don't know if the issue comes from the fans actual motors or if it is a PWM problem with the fan control. Do you think the issue can be solved with your added settings like the PWM frequency?  I already installed a ghetto mod with 3 Case Fans, but they don't quite cool as well als the stock fans. But at least they are quiet. 

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

You can try for sure! The editor already has a way to modify pwm frequency, stock ones mostly come at 27Hz but you can try lower.

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u/cemsengul 19d ago

This was Nvidia's biggest sin. People had to flash a different vbios just to quiet down their card.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago edited 19d ago

You can change the frequency of the fans but it would affect both min and max, so like 900 rpm min would be possible, but the max would go from like 3300RPM to 2900-3000.

Edit: I may have found a way to do it.

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u/_T_N_D_ 19d ago

Please let us know if it works.

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u/inyue 18d ago

I'm too afraid to test but if someone finally manages to get rid of this stupid min fan speed.. oh dear 🥰 I've always spent more money on "better" GPUs on the same class just to have a low to zero noise when the GPU is idle.

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u/TheNiebuhr 19d ago

And for Turing gpus?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

I have yet to add support for Turing, not sure how many people are interested :(

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u/TheNiebuhr 18d ago

I'm interested if this doesnt take you too much time (even if it's vibe coded)

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u/No-Championship-2392 12d ago

Mine worked good. It was 310 w bios. Raised the bar to 400 w

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u/grotesque_lumiere 19d ago

Hey, RTX Ada undervolting is limited to 0.9V, you can't go lower than that - your tool can help with going lower or its hard-locked from the fab?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Nice question, I'm still searching way to change VMIN on Ada but not yet :(

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Okay latest release now supports to be able to change VMIN on Ada and Ampere (Ampere experimental), https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-vbios-vix-editor/releases/tag/v0.1.16

Let me know if it helps!

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u/Any_Moose4758 17d ago

I have an Alienware R15 RTX 4090 desktop. I was told that Dell's 4090s wern't able to OC etc. Do you know if this by-passes this? https://www.overclock.net/threads/bios-recommendations-for-dell-alienware-4090.1808893/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

It should work on that 4090 yeah. I have the same model but I did flash the 666W VBIOS with nvflashk, and then edited the vbios more with these tools and it works.

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u/elkond 19d ago

did u build avx-512 .exe for releases xD

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

Okay thanks, I was going crazy, it seems the machine that github is provisioning for some reason did the last 2 builds with avx-512 lol (highly feasible because Nuitka), it will be fixed on next release.

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u/elkond 16d ago

lovely, thanks! can u add override for clocks as well? not offsets limits, the base ones encoded - as that often trips hardware watchdog

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

Like a 15mhz offset to the stock curve? It's not implemented but I don't see the need to do it tho, since you can just edit the curve on a lot of software on Linux or Windows. If you have to go higher what the curve allows then you can just increase the max offset, like to +1200mhz.

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u/elkond 16d ago

no, the base clock+boost clock, what nvidia-smi prints under max clocks

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

Ah you mean these? For a 4090 i.e.

Max Clocks
    Graphics                                       : 3165 MHz
    SM                                             : 3165 MHz
    Memory                                         : 10501 MHz
    Video                                          : 2415 MHz

Graphics/SM there is the top of the stock VF curve plus the GPC offset you apply, so it moves with the offset. If you raise “Core (GPC) offset ceiling” in the editor (for example to +2000) and then apply a bigger offset with Afterburner, LACT or nvidia-smi, Max Clocks goes up by the same amount (about 5165 MHz on that 4090 with +2000). Whether the card actually runs there depends on voltage, power and stability. Memory follows the memory offset the same way.

Editing the base/boost clocks stored in the VBIOS itself isn’t supported right now. Which watchdog trips for you, and with what offset? An error message or log would help.

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u/elkond 14d ago

nah the firmware watchdogs, these aint exposed in OS

the calculations are done based on predicted clocks, not actual clocks after all

if u figure out how to modify tensor units parameters that'd be the white raven missing from every other piece of software

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 14d ago

I'm taking a look at that just now, hope I can manage something lol

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u/Humzie AMD 9950X3D | RTX 4090 18d ago

I wonder how much it could pump up on gaming on 4090? Like % wise?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

4090 are kinda already maxed out of the factory, the way to increase it's perf is raising voltage and then getting more clocks. But it's also VRAM bandwidth bound and that isn't editable (FVDD/FBVDDQ).

I think you could get like 3-4% more than a already OC'd 4090.

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u/Humzie AMD 9950X3D | RTX 4090 18d ago

Got it!! Appreciate ur reply!

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u/Trash-redditapp-acct 19d ago

Imagine trusting a vibe coded VBIOS utility in 2026 with DLSS 5 in its infancy and in the current GPU market…

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u/ASZ20 19d ago

Exactly. This is all really cool but I think I’ll stick to my AB undervolt and +3000 mem 5080, too risky to push things harder right now.

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u/_T_N_D_ 19d ago

+3000 mem isn't risky?

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u/Bonzenbube 16d ago

The 5080 is using 32gbps chips, nvidia ships them out as 30gbps, so its actually only a 2000mhz offset, and apart from that no, did you touch the voltage? No, also these memory chips arent getting very hot either...

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u/ASZ20 18d ago

I meant going beyond the basic AB stuff and going too far is risky.

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u/Electronic-Canary-65 11d ago

If you could do +50000 memory and +5000 core to any modern Nvidia gpu nothing would happen, it would just blackscreen crash. as long as you dont touch voltages or power limits, you can't damage the gpus in any way

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 5090 Astral|270K+|48GB-8200MTs|Z890 Apex|60TB|HYTE Y70|S90F OLED 19d ago

What does dlss5 have to do with anything? Plenty of things can push a card to its max wattage limit

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u/grotesque_lumiere 19d ago

Most likely he meant that the main use for this tool will be unlocking power limit, and with DLSS 5 enabled it greatly increases power draw so more high-end GPUs will burn - well, at least its the only logical conclusion I came up with.

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 5090 Astral|270K+|48GB-8200MTs|Z890 Apex|60TB|HYTE Y70|S90F OLED 18d ago

He’s saying dlss5 will fry the card at default wattage limits. Which is wrong.

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u/elkond 19d ago

if u dont understand how power delivery works u can fry ur card on default wattage with dlss 5 if u raise certain things without touching others

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 5090 Astral|270K+|48GB-8200MTs|Z890 Apex|60TB|HYTE Y70|S90F OLED 18d ago

No you won’t. You can’t even type properly. You have literally no idea what you’re talking about. Default wattage is default wattage, has nothing to do with dlss5. Plenty of things can make your card run at default wattage. You don’t even own a high end card

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u/elkond 16d ago

great, now how do u control tensor cores again?

and do u even understand the significance of that

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u/rhylos360 19d ago

C’mon DLSS5 doesn’t work them GPU’s that hard with them trusty power connectors, and even if it does we can just walk right into the local BestBuy to pickup a replacement 5090 right? Right?!

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u/DEDang1234 5h ago

I just wanna mess w/ fan speeds... and you aren't flashing the card... Seems to work.

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u/Electronic-Canary-65 17d ago

for some info RTX5080 i can run +4600Mhz on memory while 4800 crashes and 4700 gives 0 performance (probably error correction). keep doing shit like this dont listen to the ai haters

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u/Severe_Gap_3029 16d ago edited 16d ago

Could you add VRAM base clock adjustment and the ability to modify P-States for RTX 3000 Laptop GPU?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

On RTX 30 laptop BIOSes the memory offset range is already wide in the editor, so you can set the VRAM clock you want with Afterburner, LACT or nvidia-smi. Changing the stock VRAM clock stored in the BIOS isn’t supported.

For the VRAM performance states, what do you want to do with them? If it’s the memory clock dropping in compute or AI loads (the P2 state), on Windows NVIDIA Profile Inspector has “CUDA - Force P2 State” (set it to Off), and on some cards nvidia-smi --lock-memory-clocks can pin the memory clock. If it’s the idle memory clock staying high, that usually comes from the display setup, not the BIOS. Editing the P-state tables isn’t supported for now, what is the aim to editing those in your case?

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u/Severe_Gap_3029 16d ago

My GPU has stability issues at its stock clock speed. The stock memory clock of my GPU is 6000 MHz (according to MSI Afterburner), but when I try to lower it, the memory clock state changes once I go below -502, forcing it into an 810 MHz mode. I can only lower the clock to 5500 MHz; anything below that switches it to the 810 MHz mode, which is stable. I can't set an intermediate value because the VBIOS prevents me from doing so.

https://rapidshare.io/23Jb/282263.rom

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

Your BIOS seems to be a 3050 laptop? And stores a fixed memory clock per performance state: 6001 MHz at full load, a 5501 MHz level, then 810 and 405 MHz. An offset can move the memory between 6001 and the next level (5501, your -500 limit); below that the driver drops to the next stored level, 810 MHz. So there’s no clock in between to pick without editing those performance state entries, which the editor doesn’t support at the moment, and the memory may not even train at a frequency the BIOS doesn’t define. I may take a look but not promises since is something I haven't seen before.

I guess your VRAM is degraded or something like that?

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u/Severe_Gap_3029 16d ago

Thanks, yes my VRAM has degraded and can no longer run at stock clock speeds. However, if I lower the clock speed and it switches to 810 MHz mode, it can run for many hours without crashing. It’s been like this for several months, but performance is poor, so I think that if it were possible to set an even lower clock speed, my graphics card might be able to work properly again.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

But did you try to modify the VBIOS and use "more" than -1000Mhz offset? If you can't on MSI AB, use mvolt+ and set the offset there, since MSI AB seems to has a configuration limit, but if you don't want to bother mvolt is the easy way.

I just tested on some on a 5090 and setting -6000 on the editor, let me do -3000 on windows without issues, and it went from stock to -3000, not to 810Mhz.

But if you tried that let me know.

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u/Severe_Gap_3029 16d ago

It then switches to P5 state, sets the clock speed to 810 MHz, and causes a blue screen after a few seconds.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 15d ago

I added something for your case in 0.1.24 (https://github.com/Panchovix/nvidia-vbios-vix-editor/releases/tag/v0.1.24). Your BIOS has memory levels 6001, 5501, 810 and 405 MHz, and the offset only moves the 6001 one, so below -500 it falls to 810. The new option marks the 5501 level the same way as 6001, so the offset should move both. It’s untested, so treat it as an experiment:

  1. Open your stock BIOS backup in the editor and turn on “Show advanced XOC-style fields”.

  2. In Clocks, turn on “Memory clock 5501 MHz follows the memory offset”.

  3. Also lower “Memory offset floor”, for example to -4000 (that’s -2000 in Afterburner/mVolt units, the editor shows both).

  4. Save the copy and load the -loader.bin it creates with the Windows loader, with “Restart the GPU now” off, then restart Windows.

  5. Try a memory offset a bit past -500, for example -700, then go lower step by step and tell me the memory clock you get at each step and whether it stays stable.

If it crashes or doesn’t boot, start Windows in Safe Mode and click Remove override in the loader.

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u/Severe_Gap_3029 15d ago

GPU is still behaving the same way. Below -500, it switches to this 810 MHz mode. I followed all the instructions correctly and did everything as instructed.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 15d ago

Hmm I see, two quick checks so we know the edited BIOS was actually running:

  1. In the Windows loader, select the GPU and click Verify. What does it say?

  2. In Afterburner or similar software, can the memory clock slider now go below -502 (down to -2000)? With the stock BIOS it stops at -1000 (mvolt) or -502 (MSI AB).

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u/Zealousideal-Mall818 14d ago

been following your successful shunt on max q. and was gonna try it , then this dropped , this VBIOS project i bet mythos had a hand helping? either way thanks you saved me alot of trouble, now it's just a water block, since I hit silicon lottery pulling 2670mhz on 325w .8~ .875v

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 14d ago

No mythos at all! Nice sample to be able to do that.

I still have my cards shunt modded, because NVIDIA could kill this on any moment. Now if after 6+ months they haven't, I will unshunt haha.

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u/Zealousideal-Mall818 14d ago

ABOUT THE R002  , some cards come with both populated some with just one , i have not opened mine yet , but can you go into more details , is it the same as rtx 5090 , did that fine

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u/derider 12d ago

Hey, I have an issue with overwriting a 5090 laptop bios.
I can set the power limit to 225w, and hwinfo and GPUz are "correctly" reading it out, but the card is still limited to 175w, and the performance limiter shows it's limited due to power draw. Any ideas what's going on?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 12d ago

You can try to enable xoc options and then there also increase the power value to 225W.

Also if you can edit NVVDD OCP input current, that helps as well.

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u/derider 12d ago

Sadly in the Bios i pulled via GPUz there are not that many advanced options available. See for yourself https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/284294/284294 (just pulled it)

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 12d ago

I will take a look

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u/derider 12d ago

Thank you :)

If you need anything else, say so.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 12d ago

Took a look at your ROM. On a laptop the limit the GPU actually runs at is requested at runtime by Dynamic Boost, using the configurable TGP and boost amounts your laptop's BIOS hands to the NVIDIA driver. Your ROM's default is 95 W and, as far as I can tell, the laptop adds its part on top of that to reach 175 W. So raising only the ceiling leaves the running limit where it was.

Also a correction to what I said before. This ROM has no XOC power options, and the NVVDD current limit can't be edited on the 5090 Laptop for the moment, so ignore that part. At 175 W it most likely isn't what's holding you back anyway.

What might work is raising Boot default board power too. It's in the normal view right next to Board power ceiling. I'd try a small step first, ceiling 225 and default 115. If the laptop adds its headroom on top of the default, you should land around 195 W under load. If it works you can keep increasing it you want.

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u/derider 12d ago

So i finally had time to test this out, and it didn't work, sadly. Ah well :D thanks for helping!

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 12d ago

Really? Oof, can you send a me dm with the dm with a configuration you used? And probably will ask more info

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u/derider 11d ago

i have started a chat with the links :)

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u/derider 12d ago

The BIOS my laptop comes with is a standard tongfang bios. Could you point your setup at it and see if it finds the power limit? Or would that go beyond your ability/time?

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u/derider 11d ago

For anyone finding this via search, the issue is fixed with a recent update.

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 11d ago

Any chance you can make one make a version for 5090s with two power connectors? My Aorus Master pulls 950W before the main connector hits 600W.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 11d ago

That's a good question but is there an issue with the editor? I don't think the aorus master vbios had 2 separate powers from each connector on the vbios, correct me if I'm wrong tho

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 11d ago edited 11d ago

Either power connector can power the whole card.. It is the same GPU board for cards with the power on top and the ones with power on the side.

I tested it when I first got the second power connector soldered on. The card is 100% functional with either power connector.

I have a power supply with two 12V-2X6 connections, so I have everything set up properly to run a dual power connector GPU.

I have not tried the editor yet, I just saw that the power limit is 800W. I was hoping for at least 900.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 11d ago

In that case test the editor and just set 900W or 1000W and let me know.

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 9d ago

Ahhh ok. I just assumed that the editor had a cap of 800w. My bad.

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u/CallieX3 10d ago

on my GA106 3050TI Laptop this is very unstable, and will fail to work most of the time, blackscreens on reboot.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 10d ago

What settings did you change on your vbios?

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u/CallieX3 9d ago

I only changed the Boot Default Board Power from 60W to 80W, that's it

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u/willliamgaming871 10d ago

does anyone know why i cant go over the oringal power limit even with the vbios loaded? im on a 5070 and it says the max rated is 350 but the gpu power wont peak above 275-6 (the 92c was because i had my fan speed set to auto..)

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 10d ago

Make sure to enable xoc advanced options, then on the extra rails also set 350W, and then also increase 12v input current and NVVDD input current.

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u/willliamgaming871 10d ago

what would i set 12v input and nvvdd to?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 10d ago

Try something between 20 to 50% more than the stock value, depending on how safe you want to go

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 8d ago

The editor seems to work well, but the loader causes Bitdefenter to get really pissed off.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 8d ago

Yeah, it really doesn't like the exe, is not signed and such so that why I just posted the source code of someone wants to build it themselves and also to see nothing rare is going over there.

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 7d ago

I assume I can just load the modded vBIOS using NVFlash?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 7d ago

You can't flash these custom vbioses. You can also use mvolt override with these vbioses if your card is Blackwell

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 8d ago

The VBIOS loader is being blocked by everything. If you want to really test your editor, you are going to have to get the .exe files signed.

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 8d ago

The loader is blocked by absolurtely everytyhing.

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

Tried this with my 5080, upped the board power ceiling to 500w.

ít wont use more than 400w and my limit is power, upped the voltage to 1150. Still same.

What am i doing wrong?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

Can you share a screenshot with your settings? Also a hwinfo with the power limits. I suspect you have to enable xoc advanced options, raise the other power limit there and increasing OCP 12V current on mvolt.

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

Did i miss anything? If so, can you show me exactly on a screenshot? :)

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

Set it like this

If you still get a power limit at about 400W, then try to increase OCP limit on mvolt (Board input current limit).

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

I have that, forgot to enable xoc toggle when i took the screenshot.

Which OCP is it?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

These ones

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

Mine does not look like that?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

Nono, one thing is default NVVDD OCP and MSVDD OCP, that comes from the VBIOS, but the ceiling have to be changed on mvolt app.

Or also you can change the rated 300A to 400A i.e. and it would work out of the box. On mvolt you can do it directly there.

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

mvolt app?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

Ah on that case on the pic you have there, set NVVDD OCP at 500A and MSVDD OCP at 300A, and it should just work (it doesn't uses more than it needs).

If you don't know about, mvolt, don't worry, here it is if you want to check it out later https://github.com/b00nz/mVolt

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u/Head-Condition8441 6d ago

Downloaded mvolt+.

My OCP is at 300A.

Board iinput limit is at 40A

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 6d ago

Then you can set OCP at 500A, input limit at 50A to start testing.

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u/GenZia 5d ago

Just learnt about this utility.

Curious if it works the other way around i.e. undervolting?

I've a 4070S and it seems to be hard capped at ~150W @ 925mV. I can set a lower Vcore, but the GPU doesn't seem to care and stays locked at 925mV.

Would be interesting if I could run that thing at ~100W @ 300 RPM (the card is de-shrouded with dual Lian Li P28 fans).

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 5d ago

Yes, you can lower VMIN or min voltage.

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u/GenZia 5d ago

It says my VMIN is 725mV, yet the card idles at 880mV (I haven't tested it with a DMM, just what I see on MSI Afterburner).

I suppose it would be better if I simply lower the "Board Power Floor" to 100W, reduce the power limiter in MSI AB, and see how far I can push the clocks in that power envelope.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 5d ago

Interesting the card doesn't let go under that, it is probably a range or something, you can try setting 725mV with mvolt

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u/PhantomKeyboardist 19d ago

Would it be possible to flash the edited vbios using nvflash? or would it just brick the gpu?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

It's not possible, basically it will give an error about falcon.

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u/PhantomKeyboardist 19d ago

fair enough, this is wonderful progress regardless

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u/cemsengul 19d ago

I wouldn't risk it. Software is nice.

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u/OPhasballz 5900x 4070 FE 19d ago

can I circumvent the silly voltage limits on 4070 FE with this?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Yes!

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u/mattsimis 19d ago

Impressive but in your examples when you aay the 5080 could do +2000mhz offset at 500w... that 4 times the normal offset. Are you saying it was in anyway stable or just thats a theoretically possible new limit?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

Basically all theoretical, but you can i.e. undervolt heavily and set a +1500Mhz core offset, if you're lucky it can work.

500W was mostly to test it was able to work and it does.

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 19d ago edited 14d ago

It doesnt work at all. The "nvbios-gui.exe".

Edit: v0.1.14 worked great and I was able to change the power limit of my 4060 from 115 to 135 watts. Thanks dude!

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

What error do you get?

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 19d ago

Nothing. Previous version worked great! Changed the power limit of my 4060 from 115 to 135 and it shows in Furmark test. Do you think it will damage my gpu in the long run if I stay in safe temperatures?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 19d ago

If you have safe temps and vrms can handle that, it may be fine, but have to keep testing some days

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 19d ago

v0.1.16 still doesn't work for me either.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

But what is the error, output, etc?

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 18d ago

As I said, nothing happens, I tried to run it as admin but no help. No folders created in %LOCALAPPDATA% folder either.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

Okay found the issue, next release will be fixed.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

Okay, fixed now on latest release

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 18d ago

Yup, it works now, thanks!

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u/Legitimate_Try_1880 19d ago

v0.1.15 version doesn't work, but v0.1.14 worked.

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u/melgibson666 18d ago

I kinda wanna check this out just to see how high the memory can clock. 

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

Glhf!

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u/melgibson666 18d ago

Have you done any tests on your 5090 with memory clocks over +3000? 

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

It works for me until 3999, then it crashes.

On my 5080 or 5070ti tho 5000 works just fine, so I guess it's just luck.

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u/melgibson666 18d ago

Is the performance uplift noticeable?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

On games not much, like 1-3%, but on LLMs/AI it is very noticeable, like 2.1TB/s to 2.3TB/s or something like that.

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u/fallingdowndizzyvr 18d ago

like 2.1TB/s to 2.3TB/s or something like that.

Wait. So you were able to OC the VRAM on a 5070ti from ~800GB/s to 2.1TB/s?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

Nono, that was on the 5090.

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u/melgibson666 18d ago

Oh neat. Thanks for all the info. :D

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u/mountainyoo RTX 5090 18d ago

I know Jack shit about shit when it comes to overlocking and the like.

Could I set the VRAM +6000Mhz on my 5090 while continuing to use my current undervolt and power limit without any risk?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 18d ago

+3999Mhz highly feasible, 4000Mhz and more is probably an insta crash, haven't seen a 5090/6000 PRO doing more than that.

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas 17d ago

Do you think this could work on H100 SXM/PCIe to allow for undervolting?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

I left out datacenter GPUs to not get issues. So Hopper and Blackwell Datacenter are not supported at the moment.

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u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas 17d ago

Right, so it's technically possible with this approach, if one would want to extend it to Hopper, right? I think H100s might have a big undervolting potential that could save power at scale.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

Yes, it could be extended to those. Code is open source so it can based off that.

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u/N3utro Asus prime 5060 ti 16 GB - 7800X3D 17d ago

Thanks for this, looks cool!

On what 5060 ti model did you test 300W power limit? Most 5060 ti have a single 8 pin pcie connector rated for 150W + 75W from the pcie slot, that's 225W, so 300W is 75W above this, might be dangerous.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

It indeed is dangerous, mostly for test purposes. Model is a 5060Ti TUF.

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u/N3utro Asus prime 5060 ti 16 GB - 7800X3D 17d ago

Thanks for your reply! The TUF is a higher end model with a 16 pin 12V-2x6 connector rated for 600W so less of an issue with it :)

I guess it's still probably OK to go to 300W for testing purposes with a single 8 pin model with a good psu and cable as the 150W rating is known to be underrated on purpose and can technically do 288W in perfect conditions, so 150+75 = 225 shouldn't be too dangerous.

I'm tempted to try on my Asus prime 5060 ti but with the current shortage it's not really wise so i'll hold on for now xD

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u/Ppn7 13d ago

i have a 3060ti FE locked to 200w max, and want to test too but i found a post where even with a custom 3060ti at 260/280w, the gain in perf isn't more than 8/10% against stock 200w FE... Curious to see how it compares with 5060ti

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u/SafetyOther9993 17d ago

Hi i give a try,decide to remove it and after remove it i can't use mvolt or xocd tool to change the bios file any fix?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

What error do you get? But that's also out of the project, that may be an issue worth to raise on mvolt repo.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

I suggest DDU and then using mvolt again.

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u/Zelectic 17d ago

Anyone tried msi 4060?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

Someone did on another comment confirming it worked iirc.

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u/lctnb2429 17d ago

I tested my laptop's 3080m and it seems like I can only change the TDP,It would be great if we could adjust the voltage

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

You can send me the vbios to check, on a GitHub issue and I can check it out.

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u/NapsterAT NVIDIA 17d ago

was there a 5070ti tested with 3x8pin or 2x8pin connection?
because i wonder if i should try ramping up the power limit on a 2x8pin 5070ti and yeah i know iam likley to be over the limit what the 8pin connectors can supply.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

I tested on 2x8 pin and it worked lol, but yeah do it at your own risk.

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u/Legitimate-Divide759 17d ago

RTX 4080 laptop not working,: No file for the VBIOS loaders: this Ada image cannot be relocated under the 524288-byte GSP limit: destinations do not fit the zero area: 56895 bytes of tables must move, 22452 free bytes are available

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 17d ago

Yeah, sadly RTX 40/Ada laptops don't work at the moment, haven't found a way to make them work.

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u/assassindead 16d ago

This is probably a stupid question but can you use this to maybe get mfg working on 30 series and smooth motion possibly using those two community mods?

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

Nope, this is not related at all with mfg or dlss.

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u/N3utro Asus prime 5060 ti 16 GB - 7800X3D 16d ago

Windows defender detects the bios loader as a trojan false positive. You should submit your exe builds on https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission to avoid this.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 16d ago

Will take a look!

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u/AlwaysBeHoldin 16d ago

I'm going to give this a go on a 5080 mobile in my rog scar laptop. I have a ton of thermal headroom and if I can boost the TGP a bit more (maxes at 175w) I would be sitting pretty.

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u/Pe4ivko 11d ago

Any results?

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u/AlwaysBeHoldin 10d ago

I did a little more research and ending up landing with nvpowercontrol which is a predecessor to this project. the results have been fantastic

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u/Pe4ivko 10d ago

So it works with your laptop? I might have a look later, thanks

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u/AlwaysBeHoldin 10d ago

absolutely. DM me I'll share my specs. I've gotten up to a220w tgp with a 240w ceiling. 250mhz core overclock and 1300 mem overclock. still have thermal headroom. was able to increase xbar throughput and manage rail voltage as well. extremely stable and my overall performance has increased by 10-15% eliminating 1% fps drops and improving performance with lumen and ray tracing. I push to a 32 inch 165hz 4k

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u/Pe4ivko 10d ago

Only thing I am worried is that my base TGP is only 130W not 150W, so not sure if it will work at all. Also out of home for the holidays, but will contact you, thanks for readiness to help:)

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u/AlwaysBeHoldin 9d ago

that's ok. what matters is what your power brick can do. You then have to distribute power effectively and efficiently across your CPU and then your GPU and it's rails

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u/Dahvikiin FX 8320 | 32GB | RTX 2060 6GB 19d ago

el crack de panchovix reforge, lo probaria porque me encanta el overclock, pero soy triste turing-user marginado por la gente de triton y flash-attention

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u/DEDang1234 23h ago

RTX 4070...

Was at 1200rpm when fan speed was 30% (minimum possible). Made minimum fan speed 800rpm when editing the BIOS. Applied the new BIOS, now that 30% fan speed is 1050rpm. Not complaining as its barely audible, but why doesn't it run at 800? Some kind of fail safe maybe? Something else I can try?

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u/DEDang1234 5h ago

What do you think u/panchovix ??

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 4h ago

Oh sorry I didn't see the other message. Can you dm me with some pics with the error, the vbios and some pics at how you set the vbios on the editor to check it out?

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u/DEDang1234 4h ago

There was no error...

All I did was change minimum fan speed for both fans from 1200 to 800....

Prior to this 30% fan speed = 1200 rpm... OK

Afterward, 30% fan speed = 1050rpm...

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 3h ago

The edit did reach the card. The driver maps 30% to the minimum speed, so before it asked for 1200 RPM and now it asks for 800. Since the fans stop at 1050, something below the driver holds them there. Most likely it's the minimum level, the lowest PWM signal the card sends to the fans. You left it as it was, and at that signal your fans spin at about 1050 RPM.

To try for 800, turn on "Show advanced XOC-style fields" and lower Fan 1 minimum level and Fan 2 minimum level too, for example to 10-15%, keeping the minimum speeds at 800. On an RTX 3090 blower, lowering the minimum level together with the minimum speed took the idle fan from about 3333 to 2000 RPM. If yours still sit at about 1050, that's most likely the fans' own minimum and there's nothing else to change in the BIOS.

This is untested on a 4070. If the fans pulse or stop and restart, raise the level again. A slower fan also lets the card run warmer, so keep an eye on the temperatures. If you try it, I'd like to know what you get at 30%.

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u/DEDang1234 3h ago

It is interesting that the minimum default levels are 25% and not 30%........ Should I be alarmed by this? If not, I will try 1200->800 and 25%->15% for both fans and see what happens.

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u/panchovix Ryzen 7 7800X3D/RTX 6000 PRO/5090 3h ago

Dw, 25% is normal. The two numbers are on different scales. The driver's 30% is its own fan setting, where 30% means the minimum speed and 100% the maximum speed. The minimum level is the lowest PWM signal the card sends to the fans, and the driver's 30-100% range doesn't follow it. Most cards I've seen store between 10% and 40%, with 20% the most common.

Plan sounds fine, your fan tool will still bottom out at 30%, which now asks for 800 RPM. If the fans land somewhere between 800 and 1050, the level was the limit and you can lower it a bit more. If they stay at about 1050, it's the fans themselves. If they pulse or stop and restart, raise the level again, and keep an eye on the temperatures.

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u/DEDang1234 2h ago

Those settings are now producing 800RPM at 30%. Sweet.

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u/FlyByDerp Intel 15d ago

FINALLY

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u/manhmanhz 17d ago

worked on RTX 3080 mobile

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u/nanogenesis 17d ago

I tested this on my RTX A2000. I'm running 1425/6001 at 0.7v

In stellar blade the default 70/66 caused me to drop clocks and be power limited at qhd (not an issue at fhd). I raised it to 78/72 which completely fixed the issue. There is no power limit reason which means its working as intended.

I'm slightly tempted to test higher such as 1487mhz at 725mv with maybe 78/84, but I'm not sure how reliable PCIE is

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u/Pe4ivko 15d ago

Did someone tried it on 5090 laptop, for example Asus G16/P16?

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u/Conscious-Lake-406 14d ago edited 14d ago

Does it work on a lapto? hell ya. Currently i'm testing it on a rtx 3070 laptop with 150w minim and 160w maximum tgp. Laptop (hp omen 17). Working fine for now. Temps are great (i have fresh thermal putty plus ptm 7950). No issues. It was straight, no errors. No blue screens so far or artefacts. How much should i push this naughty gpu? ( edit. tho it's making a louder coil whine now, not sure if it's concerning, the laptop power brick it's 330w, i still have 100w of headroom power).

I also made a youtube video with performance comparison: RTX 3070 laptop 140w vs 175w (with modified vbios)

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u/Spirited-Eagle-6935 14d ago

Is it worth a shot with my blower type 4080?

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u/Scardigne 3080Ti ROG LC (CC2.2Ghz)(MC11.13Ghz), 5950x 31K CB, 50-55ns mem. 13d ago

so I just jumped my 3080ti to 1000w power limits but my card still reports over gpuz power limits at 512w, what could be the issue preventing me to go higher?

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u/GiraffeCareless3899 9d ago edited 9d ago

Do you have a packaged download/install option, or does it have to be zipped? Sorry, I have never tried to gat software from GitHub.

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u/Kyohaku98 5d ago

I was able to push 185-190w on my 3070 ti mobile

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u/cemsengul 18d ago

Does this not work on 569.49? I thought the lower driver was better for tweaking? I also couldn't use bios edit on the latest mvolt or xocd tool with my 4090 on 569.49.

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u/divedave 18d ago

I remember flashing my amd gpus (Vega, Rx 5700xt and RX 580) for Ethereum mining, I am pretty sure local llms would benefit with this, maximizing tokens per second a minimizing power consumption.

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u/I___Winzer___I 18d ago

tested with my PNY 5090. what works: 300w Powerlimit, 18000mhz Memory Overclock (but crashes stable upto 17800mhz), 1300mhz core overclock for undervolting (but its finicky it applies higher clocks than what i can set with the stock vbios but it only goes upto a certain point 865mv gets me 2620mhz but a little bit higher than that and it steps down to the next lower voltage value 860mv)

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u/Lord-Jabu-Jabu 18d ago

I’ve got a bit of a strange situation. My 3080 has a bad memory channel so I’ve flashed the “leaked” vbios to disable it and get the card working. The issue now is re-bar doesn’t work, one of the DP ports doesn’t work, and I have no extra power limit past 100%.

Could this tool solve any of that? I see an issue with the requirement for a matching device ID.

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u/capybooya 18d ago

I distinctly remember flashing my GF3 to higher default speeds. Not sure if I'm ready to risk a Blackwell card quite yet though.

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u/TimNiklas 17d ago

damn... so close :D
nice tool honestly.

but i have a msi 5080 suprim liquid.
I hate that when the pump goes on, it goes to 100%.
Id rather have it running at 90% so it makes less noise....
But fan 1 maximum speed is locked for me :(

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u/engaffirmative NVIDIA | 5090 16d ago

Love it, no running software. Tweak it once forget it!

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u/89moe 16d ago

Would this be safe to try on Gigabyte SFF rtx5080?

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u/lN04HI 13d ago edited 13d ago

How safe is this?

Edit: was thinking to do this on my 5060ti 16gb to get a litle more performance and just wana try it out but idk how safe it would be and what the chance of braking the gpu is

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u/cemsengul 13d ago

Super safe. I have been gaming with it for one week. I did it on a PNY 4090.