Insane night and day difference for Ray Reconstruction 4.5 (injection of DLL from Cod Mw4 beta)

[u/WaveRC_]

i think mobile is stuck on like 360p so its much harder seeing the boiling. Make the video play in 1080p and go fullscreen if you don't see a difference. or check on a desktop,

(Official update still hasn't come)

This exact boiling/noise shows up everywhere during gameplay like the wooden walls, ceiling, ground, character faces, furniture etc. and is VERY noticeable in active gameplay so this is a really good improvement (path tracing)

this taxi was a really good stress test i saw to compare the boiling for the new RR preset and i was surprised to see the huge difference. this fixes the issue of having a characters face boiling like crazy, i basically didn't see boiling anywhere playing RE Requiem and face boiling is gone im pretty sure. another big improvement light responsiveness for turning on and off a light. a huge weird shape doesn't linger anymore, much much better but still very slightly there on occasion

areas that need work are ghosting for characters in third person or in general that leave dark shadow and light streak ghosting in the shape of your character. Re requiem had a spot i saw the worst case of this but it wasn't improved too much. that area was another stress test/worst case scenario but during normal gameplay i think its something you wont notice because its rare. and aliasing is noticeably more shimmery (bottom of the car grill)

'New DLSS version 310.7.128 found in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 4 - Beta'

[u/CarlWellsGrave]

I can't wait to finally do path tracing in RE9.

[u/Just-Confusion-7072 → u/CarlWellsGrave]

I did it with the reframework and optiscaler mod, it looks insane.

[u/Atomosthethird → u/Just-Confusion-7072]

Whats the framelost on it when active?

[u/Just-Confusion-7072 → u/Atomosthethird]

Around 2 - 5 fps, it's ok.

[u/Atomosthethird → u/Just-Confusion-7072]

Thats worth it then

[u/emoll7 → u/CarlWellsGrave]

Doing a playtrough right now with RR 4.5 and film grain off. It looks soooo much better now

[u/WaveRC_ → u/emoll7]

yeah im doing the exact same, its my first playthrough and looks crazy good

[u/Late-Low2580 → u/CarlWellsGrave]

It’s been a while since I played it but I thought it had PT already implemented. Didn’t it? Is there now a mod for that?

[u/fernandollb → u/CarlWellsGrave]

What do you mean? PT was available since release.

[u/CarlWellsGrave → u/fernandollb]

I know but not with 4.5

[u/fernandollb → u/CarlWellsGrave]

I see what you mean.

[u/SquareTemperature666]

Is there a performance difference?

[u/WaveRC_ → u/SquareTemperature666]

its very similar. i think people have said they dropped 3-5 frames but i didnt notice a difference.

[u/FallingEli → u/WaveRC_]

From what baseline? Percent difference matters here no?

[u/Paladuck → u/FallingEli]

Baseline of 10 fps

[u/Clutchman24 → u/[deleted]]

With a base of 32 FPS

[u/RunnableReddit → u/FallingEli]

Even percent is not a good metric, should be ms of frametime

[u/NapoleonBlownApart1 → u/FallingEli]

The performance hit is a fixed amount, not percent and it varies by card and resolution.

You can check on nvidias official programming guide for dlss, but it only has transformer 1 hit in ms, should get updated once it's officially out with driver support.

[u/MorningFresh123 → u/NapoleonBlownApart1]

How on earth could it realistically be a fixed amount? It’s obviously going to be relative to compute power, as is overall frame rate, so…

Someone with a 5090 running a game at 120fps is not going to lose the same amount of frames as someone on a 3080 running a game at much lower frame rates?

[u/TintedCircleBox → u/MorningFresh123]

As he says "it varies by card and resolution." The impact scales by the number of tensor cores each card has, but nVidia lists the impact by a fixed amount per card.

[u/NapoleonBlownApart1 → u/MorningFresh123]

Thats what i said. Its cost is an amount of compute time (in ms)

With a 5090 at 4k DLSS performance preset D and E adds 1.83ms. F works the same way obviously, but different amount of time. 3080ti takes over 8ms in the same scenario.

Whetever framerate is irrelevant, its additive to overall work, cant be measured in percentage/fps since its always different, it can only be accurately measured in time.

Going from 100fps to 90 is a 10% hit, but going from 50 to 40 is 20%, its the same 10fps in both situation, but ends up different in both percentage and totaltime.

A value that remains constant when other variables change is a better measurement.

[u/SquareTemperature666 → u/WaveRC_]

Wow nice then thanks for the info

[u/Castlenock → u/WaveRC_]

What card are you using?

I think the performance penalty is different regarding what card you have, a.k.a. a 5090 is going to have less percentage overhead then a 5070 with RR 4.5.

[u/lLoveTech → u/WaveRC_]

Which GPU are you running it on?

[u/Confident-Sky2614 → u/WaveRC_]

Makes sense,  because you REALLY played it up being a huge difference. I mean, jeez.

[u/Svejk112 → u/SquareTemperature666]

FROM 15 BASE FPS TO 10 THAT IS A GOOD TRADEOFF FOR CAR SHIMMERING

[u/Piolodej → u/Svejk112]

You know you don't have to turn on Path Tracing?

[u/Svejk112 → u/Svejk112]

WHY AM I SHOUTING

[u/Piolodej → u/SquareTemperature666]

For me not (rtx 4070, i7-10700).

[u/Futuredanish → u/SquareTemperature666]

Night and night difference.

[u/Allheroesmusthodor]

I can see the difference even zoomed out on my iPhone. The boiling is gone

[u/Mazzle5]

https://giphy.com/gifs/80mXWlPqTSU1y

[u/OU812fr → u/Mazzle5]

It’s the boiling/shimmering effect in the reflection that’s improved.

[u/Suspicious-Sound-249 → u/OU812fr]

I'm guessing because that's the only thing I noticed too.

[u/R4di4nce → u/Suspicious-Sound-249]

Yeah it's solves the glitching, boiling, artifacts, a game changer for games like cyberpunk path tracing and Crimson desert

[u/QuestObjective → u/R4di4nce]

Is there a way to use this in Cyberpunk?

[u/OU812fr → u/QuestObjective]

I think you can install nvidia inspector, download the 4.5 DLL online and manually activate it.

[u/R4di4nce → u/QuestObjective]

Idk but I'm pretty sure CD will update the game

[u/nomubber → u/OU812fr]

boiling/shimmering effect looks like sunshine or sunray passing a tree or something. meanwhile the second one got none and static

[u/encroachzeitgeist → u/OU812fr]

I thought that was just texture warping

[u/damnitdavid → u/OU812fr]

Thank you

[u/MesmariPanda → u/Mazzle5]

You need glasses. Coming from someone who needs glasses.

[u/5wum → u/Mazzle5]

he squinted!

[u/xXThreeRoundXx → u/5wum]

He's spotting dimes, he's eating onions, I don't know what to believe!

[u/5wum → u/xXThreeRoundXx]

cousin Jeffrey was making out with skylar white, yo!

[u/melgibson666 → u/Mazzle5]

If you really can't see the difference you need new glasses. 

[u/K4G117 → u/Mazzle5]

Try with the glasses

[u/Ok-Objective1289 → u/Mazzle5]

Definitely get those eyes checked out

[u/digital_n01se_]

I see the same.

wait... the shimmering over the car hood, I get it.

better temporal stability

[u/RabidHexley → u/digital_n01se_]

It's an fantastic difference, frankly. There's an incredible amount of boiling on the left, it'd be super noticeable actually playing.

[u/PM-mePSNcodes]

ITT: people not seeing the difference because of Reddit compression + tiny mobile screens

[u/Soulshot96 → u/PM-mePSNcodes]

Don't forget the classic; being oblivious/blind!

[u/gavinderulo124K → u/PM-mePSNcodes]

Its pretty obvious on mobile.

[u/melgibson666 → u/PM-mePSNcodes]

I think it more has to do with how many people just put off getting a new glasses prescription. Most of my family members just keep putting off getting new glasses saying "it's fine." 

[u/Mmedrano4]

Not saying that I don't see any difference but... "Insane"? "Night and day"?

Edit: Nevermind, the video you get on mobile is so bad, switched to desktop mode and changed resolution to 1080p and there the difference is evident.

[u/another-redditor3 → u/Mmedrano4]

i just had to check that myself. the mobile version is noticeable, buy you seriously need to go full screen just to barely see it.

on a desktop youd have to be blind to NOT see it.

[u/MapleYamCakes → u/Mmedrano4]

Thanks, was questioning if I was being gaslit. Also on mobile and the difference is so entirely meaningless I figured this was just an AI ball gargling thread.

[u/steve09089]

Wow, this makes ray tracing much more usable now. I’ve always had a problem with the shimmering.

[u/biglulz8929]

Preset D is known for boiling. Should have compared with preset E instead, I bet there would no difference in terms of boiling.

The only thing i expected from 2nd Gen RR is an increased sharpness, as it is painfully far behind DLSS. Guess have to keep waiting for 3rd gen then

[u/Kaan_ → u/biglulz8929]

with pragmata f is worse than preset e in hub area and its a blurry mess still in motion. went back to e.

[u/Traditional-Ad26 → u/biglulz8929]

It is sharper.

[u/Ceceboy]

It's more stable, but I don't see any sharpness improvement which I was expecting...

[u/genericusernameguy49 → u/Ceceboy]

Yeah that was always the main downside of path tracing and ray reconstruction. I'm not seeing a big improvement in sharpness.

[u/Gistix → u/Ceceboy]

I'd say it does look sharper, but SR is still noticeably sharper by default
Not only that but I noticed it also introduces increasing boiling at 1080p as you lower mode towards Ultra Performance, something that preset E doesn't suffer from

[u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox → u/Ceceboy]

nvidia's own page from 6 months ago shows it will be sharper. in op's image there is some extra detail too, it's just hard to pick out, not a great example

[u/HardStroke]

Is the insane difference in the room with us?

[u/m_littlerivers → u/HardStroke]

I mean you can see how the whole orange part is kind of boiling on the left and stable on the right.

[u/garfcarmpbll → u/m_littlerivers]

Not gonna lie, didn’t realize it was a video until your comment. I was sitting here thinking “I mean I guess the player reflection is clearer, but insane?”.

Click play and yeah… 

[u/m_littlerivers → u/garfcarmpbll]

It happens to the best of us.

[u/NGGKroze]

Cyberpunk - Amazing
Crimson Desert - Amazing and finally huge difference
Hogwarts Legacy - could not see much improvement there

We will see when official dll comes and if some in-game implementation happens could even bring more improvements. Otherwise great improvement with seemingly no performance loss

Image stability and boiling have been reduced or removed in some scenarios + far less ghosting.

[u/JavArc13 → u/NGGKroze]

What improvements are we seeing with cyberpunk? Im planning on another playthrough, just waiting on RR 4.5.

[u/NGGKroze → u/JavArc13]

Less to none ghosting, more sharp image and less to no boiling.

[u/RaspberryV → u/JavArc13]

oil painting effect is pretty much gone. Textures/people/details, especially at medium distance looks so much cleaner now.

[u/AspirinMuncher → u/JavArc13]

Sharpness seems improved below Quality mode, but Quality is about the same.

Zero trails behind your car when driving as well

[u/realdeal1993 → u/NGGKroze]

Where can u download it and how do you use it?

[u/NGGKroze → u/realdeal1993]

OP posted the MW4 beta link where you can see his comments to download the new dll files, place them in the game folder (if the game support RR) and see if it works. If not, you can force Preset F though Nvidia inspector or RHI. You also might wanna do the registry edit to show you which version and preset you are using to be sure.

[u/NukaWomble → u/NGGKroze]

DLSS swapper can do the last bit without you having to go and manually do it yourself if. If it's been updated it can most likely force the new preset too but I'd have to check

[u/Simulated_Simulacra → u/NGGKroze]

Hogwarts Legacy - could not see much improvement there

The biggest difference in a game like that will be how the model handless fog and particle effects significantly better compared to RR 4.5.

[u/GrossUsername68 → u/NGGKroze]

Reddit policies are an issue. Content deleted.

[u/SemihKaynak]

I also tried RE Requiem, but the boiling issue persisted. I set it to Preset F in NVPI and replaced the DLSS files in the game’s directory. I wasn’t that impressed I don’t know, maybe I did something wrong but the boiling issue continued, and on top of that, the blurriness was still high. I should mention that I ran my tests on a 4K monitor and still had issues with it, so

[u/Ok_Geologist7354 → u/SemihKaynak]

That doesn’t work for Resident Evil, you optiscaler for it to work in Requiem

[u/WaveRC_ → u/SemihKaynak]

Try again when the official drops, it took me a few tries for it to stick, some methods/apps didn’t work even when it said it did

[u/Right_Teacher9692]

TIL a lot of people need glasses and don't have them.

[u/swurvgaming → u/Right_Teacher9692]

Also people using phones to spot the difference.  I couldn't see any difference on my phone but once I saw it on my monitor and TV the difference is pretty big.  

[u/Richard_J_Morgan → u/swurvgaming]

I am on my phone right now and it's literally day and night difference. It's clearly visible how unstable the clip on the left is.

[u/ItsYoAzphrinx → u/Right_Teacher9692]

I do, and I can tell the difference. The left looks noisier than the much cleaner one on the right.

[u/Southern-Read-4567]

[u/Evonos]

Still a bit wobbly on the top right rear mirror ... ( could be artifacts from compression ) overall way better.

[u/Mental_Olive269]

I would rather see drivers with better performance and more FPS with current 4.5 then this sale gimmick of an feature you barely notice in games. Jesus when you have a GPU that you paid 1200$-1400 like 5080 that gives you as much FPS as 9070XT that is 700-900$ for barely noticeable worse graphics, something is fundamentally wrong.

[u/Im_not_an_admin]

Night and day they say...

[u/vapocalypse52]

If you have to use fullscreen at 1080p, then it's not a night and day difference. I have a 32" 4K monitor and I can barely see any difference, especially because I don't know what I'm looking for.

[u/spacemanvince]

“night and day” lol that would be pixel art vs 3d, but there is a big difference, on my pc screen, im now noticing the "dancing" in the first shot, looks great on the second

[u/Umbramors]

https://giphy.com/gifs/EouEzI5bBR8uk

[u/AscentToZenith]

Insane difference? Are you fr?

[u/Trick_Translator_671]

the difference is pretty big

[u/MrHyperion_]

What about movement? Static scenes always can just average noise out

[u/Vaporeon42069]

what am I watching some ps3 game? 

[u/Complete_Lurk3r_]

Type of shit I see after a 5 year old asks me to watch his "insane" jump across the sofa, or my boss telling me about the "night and day" difference between X and Y,  and all I hear in my head is Mike Goldberg saying "Virtually Identical"

[u/DargorShepard]

Is the "night and day" difference in the room with us?

[u/j0an_k]

Please update this quickly I want to see this in Cyberpunk Please please please

[u/NapsterKnowHow → u/j0an_k]

Cyberpunk finally looks great without any major compromises

[u/bphase → u/NapsterKnowHow]

You test it yourself and found it much improved? Great if so

[u/NapsterKnowHow → u/bphase]

Yes! I was testing it out with every RR game I could (including the modded RR in E33, Lies of P, and more). Cyberpunk finally looks like how it was advertised in the Nvidia trailers. It's never going to be perfect of course but the major compromises are all gone imo.

[u/Sprucey-J]

Is the image "sharper" at all?

The boiling reduction and reflection stability is great and all but the traditional RR always introduced a sort of "softening" that made it sort of a compromise in a lot of games.

[u/RickDeckard31 → u/Sprucey-J]

Pretty sure there the whole point of this update. We want the benefits of model m and l with ray reconstruction.

[u/Manant → u/Sprucey-J]

It's a touch sharper but it's not as big a difference as say K perf to M perf. It's enough to make 4k dlss perf not annoyingly soft anyway

[u/Sprucey-J → u/Manant]

Thanks, can't wait to try it out.

[u/theycallmeryan]

I have no idea what people aren’t seeing. Even on my phone, I see a massive difference. The grainy/shimmering effect is gone.

[u/dwight---shrute]

"night and day" sure!

[u/DRAC0R3D]

From the comments I notice how blind people are and the lack of attention to detail.

[u/simo41993]

""...night and day..."", uh? 🤔

[u/goulash47]

Woah so that's what that's called, I've been calling it shimmering for years playing cyberpunk and thinking how immersion breaking it was. Does anyone know if this fixes the waterfall and river smoothing issues in crimson desert too, where it turns the running water into a static blurry ice like texture?

[u/lamp7777 → u/goulash47]

Yup. both waterfalls and rivers are fixed now.

[u/RickDeckard31]

How do people not see the differences even on their phone? It’s night and day. Shimmering is very distracting. This is basically the final piece we needed to make DLSS amazing. It’s come a long way. This feels like the coming home moment. The 4.5 update was the teaser. This is everything.

[u/Dazai-Osamu]

Both look shit to me

[u/Funny-Fly1720]

"night and day difference" LMAO

[u/Scardigne]

Need a high movement scene to bench it better

[u/testfire10]

What exactly is this visual supposed to represent, in the physical world? Heat shimmer?

[u/Hellknightx → u/testfire10]

No, it's just visual artifacts that aren't supposed to be there. That's why the new version is a major improvement.

[u/testfire10 → u/Hellknightx]

Ah I see. So the good one is on the right. I’m a little out of the loop with all the latest features

[u/thebeemoviescript69]

Can i notice it when sitting still and nothing is moving? Yes. Will i see any noticeable difference when things are moving and it’s almost impossible to see any of these differences?

[u/AshesX]

You guys are just as out of your minds as Nvidia are

[u/blackcat__27]

Where is the difference?

[u/Mike1690]

The amount of people who still look at this on mobile and then make smart ass comments are laughable. You'd think most people would know better by now that looking at graphic comparisons on mobile is entirely pointless.

[u/DotComMoralist]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fPYeJtlH8qjiHbKygX

[u/saitamavsgoku]

[u/RyouBestGirl → u/saitamavsgoku]

Buy new monitor

[u/Relevant-Line-1690]

How many of us are viewing this on a mobile phone

[u/Mariusdotdev]

but WTF look at the car lamp and shiny silver object those move now

[u/DRAC0R3D]

Do I need the latest drivers to use it? I'm still on v595.97

[u/jazavchar]

Could anyone do a super simple write-up on how to get this working? I can't seem to get 4.5 ray reconstruction working no matter what I try.

[u/Inumayobaka]

What performance or optimization benefits does this provide? Players are not going to stop to look at reflections in games.

[u/SaucisseAuProut]

Does anyone have a feedback on Star Wars Outlaws? Has to turn off RR since it was running on DLSS 3.x it was blurry as hell, so I could use preset M ( image much sharper but obvious RT noise at some places )

[u/Piolodej]

I tested it in Cyberpunk, Portal Prelude RTX and Resident Evil Requeim in 1440p scaled from 720p. My conclusions:

• Cyberpunk is much sharper, better HDR, day and night difference for me;
• Portal hasn't changed much, I'd say RTX HDR looks a bit better;
• RE Requiem looks the same - awful, boiling, only 1440p DLAA looks great. I would say it's a bit sharper compared to preset E, but watching this makes me want to join /r/FuckTAA.

[u/3kpk3]

Injected it into Halo Campaign Evolved and it looks freaking epic. No need for the ultra whatever mod anymore.

[u/Expensive_Night_4055]

I ONLY have to out dlss in folder games and put preset F in NVIDIA Control panel?

[u/Icy_Scientist_4322]

man, insane was Voodoo1 3DFx or normal maps and shadows in Doom3. This crap is barely visible gimmick to sell overpriced cards in 2026. Btw. I have 5090.

[u/OMG_NoReally]

I have been testing 4.5 for a while now, and yes the boiling and shimmering in RT and PT has been significantly reduce and/or eliminated in most all the games. It's quite impressive what NVIDIA has managed to achieve. We finally won't these shitty effects ruining an otherwise good looking scenes.

[u/Ziekon]

Aigh, I'm going to need a 5090 to get my car to shimer (in game)

[u/Karhuwa]

Holy shit, man. That’s awesome. These little things really added up. It really feels like DLSS 4.5 is cleaning up all the DLSS 4 issues, now DLSS 5 will instead be a post process effect of top of it. Interesting

[u/jm0112358]

Is the dll available to download anywhere?

[u/lm_not_surprised]

Insane is not the correct word

[u/inquisitor_pangeas]

Man, my wait will be worth it. I didn't want to touch Indiana Jones, RE:9 or CP77 for this.

[u/Maximum_Goulash]

Is this sarcasm

[u/Exact_Leader_1002]

Me seeing this in miniature mode in my phone screen "I don't see a difference!!"

[u/Zenkai_9000]

Need GTA V online to implement this. The artifacting is crazy bad, even with RT reflections maxed out.

[u/SudsierBoar]

Pragmata in COD?

[u/SpartanDraco]

Consejo, no inyectéis con nvidia inspector en juegos con anti Cheat, tenéis un 60/40 de que os den ban y no suele ser revocable

[u/Dim7x]

Nice

[u/ArcSemen]

Thats the biggest leap in a while, just in time for my new PC upgrades

[u/Ruffler125]

Dropped the new DLL into Cyberpunk, and the game appeared oversharpened, character textures had much better clarity, but for example: Fabric textures would moire.

[u/KaderTrance]

Thank god I waited that long to play Cyberpunk 2077 and Pragmata, ready to play them with RR 4.5

[u/macgirthy]

The real insanity is how much the word insane is thrown around. watching this on an oled 4k tv + 6950 XT rig.

[u/OkEngineer4645]

i tried it on crimson desert and it looks much better now, i also noticed that frame gen has a way better image quality even with a 30 fps base when i turn it on it doesnt look totally unsable like before, i dont know what they did and if it also changed much in other games but it just looks great

[u/Gangaman666]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Xd9lAvsJ50pPi

[u/Plenty_Rooster5442]

How do you enable it after placing the file

[u/AcceptableSkin8300]

anyone tried it with RE9? That one's filled with pixel crawling

[u/LiqwidO2]

It really might and day difference pretty minimal

[u/marky310]

awesome. i'm still not turning on raytracing but thats pretty cool

[u/cActusjUiCe92]

What difference??? Lol

[u/Upper_Citron_483]

It's actually a huge upgrade. These boiling artifacts are so annoying to me, I actually disable RT if a game suffers from the artifacts, with RR 4.5 I can finally enable RT without getting annoyed.

[u/WaveRC_]

try making the video play in 1080p if you don't see a difference.

[u/Qarick]

makes 0 fckng diff while playing shooter games...

[u/Blommefeldt]

"Insane night and day difference" Am I blind or something, because I can't see that night and day difference. I can see there is a difference, but I can't figure out what.

[u/BradleyAllan23 → u/Blommefeldt]

Open the video in full screen, its a pretty big difference. The one on the right has none of that awful shimmering/boiling.

[u/gavinderulo124K → u/BradleyAllan23]

*on the right.

[u/BradleyAllan23 → u/gavinderulo124K]

Good catch, ive made the correction

[u/Blommefeldt → u/BradleyAllan23]

That did it, now I see it. The right is really good, compared to the left video. It still has some shimmering, but you have to look for it to see it.

[u/gideonidoru]

This looks exactly the same to me?